I'm just curious how many players on here use the reverb on their amp, as opposed to using an outboard reverb unit? I know amps like the twin reverb have a great sound, so I was just curious if any one just uses their amps reverb. I personally use a re-issue outboard reverb tank, but from listening to a few modern day surf bands, it sounds like some of them are just using their amps reverb. Any info is welcomed. Thanks,
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Reverb: Onboard or Outboard?
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Posted on Dec 12 2006 12:50 PM
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Posted on Dec 12 2006 01:16 PM
Surf_agent, I suggest you d go back and edit your post to include a poll. —Danny Snyder I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac' Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
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Posted on Dec 12 2006 01:17 PM
I specifically bought an outboard tank because my amp's reverb was almost non-existant. I tried a couple of different work-arounds (pedals, delays, even a Peavey Valverb), but the Fender tank just has THAT sound. Maybe if I had a different amp with a long tank that dripped I'd have never been turned onto the outboard unit, but I'm pretty happy with what I have now. — |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Dec 12 2006 01:40 PM
Outboard. Onboard cannot compare to and reverb unit. |
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Posted on Dec 12 2006 08:07 PM
Seems there was a thread like this about a month back, Jeff(bigtikidude) —Jeff(bigtikidude) |
Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 1487 San Francisco
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Posted on Dec 13 2006 01:37 AM
Once you go tank, you never go back. Booch factor 1,000. ~B~ |
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Posted on Dec 16 2006 08:54 AM
For surf, outboard definitely. The onboard reverb is perfectly fine for most other types of music. —Shawn Martin |
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Posted on Dec 21 2006 03:10 PM
I picked up PODXT Live and purchased the Classic Amps Collection. But for Live shows, nothing compares to outboard tanks. |
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Posted on Dec 21 2006 03:50 PM
Right now I am happiest with how the onboard reverb on my deluxe reverb is voiced. But I don't use that much reverb. —THe NEpTuNeS |
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Posted on Dec 21 2006 04:20 PM
https://taweber.powweb.com/store/kits_weber.htm#Add-A-Verb with the introduction of the Weber Kit 'add-a-verb' amp-cabinet-mounting 6G15 circuit, the question "onboard or outboard" is now moot! to be honest, I think the opposite should also be built. an onboard reverb circuit in an add-on box. bassman players are forced to use outoard only, I personnaly would welcome the addition of ( though definately not a change to) an onboard reverb. WR —Rules to live by #314: |
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Joined: Apr 23, 2006 Posts: 260 Oceanside, CA
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Posted on Dec 21 2006 07:18 PM
You know, I used to love my onboard reverb on my Prosonic. But after replacing a broken chasis, the reverb didn't sound as good as the original onboard chasis did. It still souns good, but I can't go as wet with the new chasis before it starts a continous ring cycle. |
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Posted on Dec 21 2006 08:21 PM
I modded the internal reverb in my Musicman. |
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Posted on Dec 21 2006 10:04 PM
I have a couple of Princetons Reverbs that are as drippy as anything in a box. Not sure why but the reverb on those are amazing. My Pro Reverb does a fine job too and I can do surf stuff with it alone but I also have an outboard and a digital reverb in the setup. I like lots of options. Several tech friends explained that the onboard reverb is essentially the outboard but with the dwell set at 10. It's a control on the amount of signal fed to the reverb driver tube. The Fender reverb amps already run this wide-open. When you turn up the reverb on the amp you're adjusting the mix. —There is Surf east of Sepulveda. |
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Posted on Dec 22 2006 12:39 AM
Did anyone here ever see or try that "ReVibe" outboard unit on the Weber site? It looks cool...trem and verb in one outbaord unit. I wonder how it sounds compared to a Fender RI verb unit. I have a blonde RI with an RCA 6K6 in it and it sounds great but I have nothing to A/B it with. anyone ever try the ReVibe listed on that same site? g |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands
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Posted on Dec 22 2006 03:50 AM
sorry, that's wrong info, I suspect your tech friends obviously havent looked at the schematics. in an onboard circuit, the reverb driver is an 12AT7 preamp tube (pouring out something like half or one watt or something like that) while the outboard unit uses a 6v6 or 6K6 output tube as driver, with an output power of around 6 watts. so onboard might be said to be outboard with the dwell set at one and a half, give or take a little. let alone the sonic differences between two differnet circuits. of course YMMV, but hey are differnt circuits with different components and different sounds. WR —Rules to live by #314: |
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Posted on Jan 09 2007 12:17 AM
MikeG, I'm curious. What did you do? Are you an electronics technician or electronics engineer? Thanks! SurfCat |
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Posted on Jan 15 2007 02:23 AM
Amen to that Bill -Kyle Beyond The Surf YouTube channel |
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Posted on Jan 19 2007 08:04 AM
has anyone tried the guyatone reverb tank? im looking for an outboard to buy but dont want to buy a big expensive fender tank or pedal. — |
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Posted on Jan 19 2007 08:06 AM
the nebulas are raving about the guyatones. they're more expensive and bigger then the fender RI's though .... —Rules to live by #314: |
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Posted on Jan 19 2007 03:40 PM
Wannes, I'd like to try one firsthand, but I've never seen one in a store anywhere. ~B~ |
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