Can anyone share some tabs for Hot Rod songs?
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Joined: Jul 31, 2009 Posts: 36 |
Can anyone share some tabs for Hot Rod songs? |
Joined: Jun 22, 2010 Posts: 120 Durham, NC |
I don't think I even know what hot rod instrumental music is! What's an example? Like maybe "Wild Weekend" or something? Is it an actual genre/group of artists, or just a sound? Educate me! —Full length "Chases Lead to Crashes" available now - The Red Planets |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 4387 Under the Sun |
I know there's been a thread about this before, but instro hot rod stuff is just surf with hot rod related titles and sound samples. Most of the groups playing hot rod-themed instros were studio bands comprised of session musicians, so the results are pretty close to the non-hot rod studio bands of that era. edit: Found it - http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=4172 —That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it. |
Joined: Aug 31, 2009 Posts: 352 The Ranch, CO |
So would that make The Surfites a Hot Rod/Surf Band with songs like "Thou Shalt Drag" ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBMM1oOfR30 —"Maybe there aren't any surf bands; there's only surf music?" Tuck |
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I always figured that Phantom Surfers album was an homage to the Revells one. They're pretty homage heavy and by all means get that album or at least buy it and send it to me — |
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In my book surf with loud engine noises > normal surf — |
Joined: Sep 01, 2006 Posts: 2716 New Orleans, LA |
Yikes, triple posting: I think it's not really a matter of "whether x band is a hot rod band" it's more like "well, their album art is covered with cars and they don't say anything about surfing, just cars, so I guess they're not a SURF band". Anyway, some hot rod music off the top of my head Assorted Dick Dale albums (Wild Hot Rod Wails has engine noise all over the place) In general it's usually a much more dry sound with a lot more saxamaphone. — |
Joined: Sep 04, 2009 Posts: 1800 Temecula, CA |
I remember picking up The Astronauts "Competition Coupe" album in 1964. There was a line in the liner notes to the effect of, "You thought the Astronauts were a Surf band (I did!).................. |
Joined: Jul 29, 2009 Posts: 2605 Boss Angeles, CA |
Okay, I feel the need to chime in on this thread even though I said I wouldnt because of The Beach Boys slag. For the most part theres not a huge difference between hot rod and surf music, but there definitely IS a difference. It's not just surf music with a car title and sound effects. The vibe and guitar tone tend to be quite different in most (but perhaps not all) cases. Think of them as the same animal but with different stripes. There were hot rod tunes in the 50's like Hot Rod Race (1951) and Hot Rod Lincoln (1955) but they were very hillbilly sounding and not what came to be known as Hot Rod Music. What truly started the Hot Rod Music trend was the release of the Gary Usher/Brian Wilson penned 409 released on June 4, 1962. It was the flipside of "Surfin' Safari". It was a huge hit spawning many imitations both vocal and instro. Gary Usher went on to write countless Hot Rod tunes for well known surf acts like Dick Dale, The Surfaris and The Pyramids, plus writing and singing for his own projects like The Four Speeds, The Superstocks and so on. The idea was, if the rest of the country (which was land-locked) didnt get surf music, they would certainly get Hot Rod Music. Remember, surf music was mostly a west coast craze as far as instros go with the exception primarily of Pipeline, Penetration and Wipe Out. What brought the trend to the rest of the country was the popularity of The Beach Boys whether some refuse to believe it or not. —BOSS FINK "R.P.M." available now from DOUBLE CROWN RECORDS! |
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Original pressings of this record are very valued items. I would buy it without thinking it a second if the price is good! It is a great deal if you like this type of Gary Usher´s recordings. It is very similar to the Hondells´ two previous LPs, with Chuck Girard on lead vocals and Richie (Allen) Podolor on guitar. |
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From my point of view, lots of Hot Rod tunes even have a touch of rhythm and blues, even r'n'r, and do not tend to over-use the typical "surf-beat" and/or guitar reverb, adding instead more saxophone, electric piano, even fuzz, and of course, loud engine sounds. I definetly can see differences between, let's say, Big Surf by the Sentinals and Drag Beat by the De-Fenders (yeah, we all know they weren't even a band, but they must have had some sort of direction from the producers!). In those De-Fenders, Darts and Deuce-Coupes albums, you even have some latin rhythms thrown in, other more "jazzy" tunes, and other rockers without any glympse of surf to be found. Again, my opinion, and not that I'm an expert at all! —"flash don't make cash" - Steve Cropper Born Losers on facebook |
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Yes, we are a surf/hot rod band. We are also a surf band but not a hot rod band. — |
Joined: Jul 29, 2009 Posts: 2605 Boss Angeles, CA |
Daniel/Klas, both of you bring up excellent points. Many Hot Rod tunes tend to not use a surf beat and in many cases the guitar tone is dryer and twangier. But they can have reverb, and sometimes lots of it. Some good examples are Gene "The Draggin' King" Moles tune "Burning Rubber" and The New Dimensions "Chicky Run" both do not use the surfbeat but have plenty of reverb and have a bit of chase feel to the playing which makes it feel more Hot Rod. A dryer sound is "Boss Machine" by Jan Davis who also displays the twangyness that hot rod tunes tend to have. Also as Klas pointed out, Surf/Hot Rod Music is what The Daytonas are and what most surf bands in the 60's were. Yes, there are some that only play surf and some the only play hot rod but "real" bands like Dick Dale, The New Dimensions, The Surfaris, The Pyramids played surf/hot rod music although it's easier to just call it surf. Also, as you can see hot rod music wasn't limited to "studio" groups like The Darts, The Competitors, etc. The real bands played it too, whether in was vocal stuff like Ronny and The Daytonas or instro stuff like The New Dimensions. —BOSS FINK "R.P.M." available now from DOUBLE CROWN RECORDS! |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2292 Stockholm, Sweden |
Excellent examples. Both are among my all time favorite instro tunes, any genre. Here's "Burnin' Rubber": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyP1A2jwx4E — |
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Totally diggin' this thread. This is SG101 at its best, IMO. —Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. |
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The text reads: "Okay. So you say how come the Astronauts are all of a sudden playing hot rod music when their last album was surfing music. So something must be phony, you say. |
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Thanks for looking it up! |
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To add to what Norman said, I often find the "hot rod" tunes are less melodic and more riff oriented. Mr. Usher himself tended to name the more melodic tunes with surfing themes and the less melodic ones with car themes (talking instrumentals here). Of course, when lyrics were involved, then the subject would dictate the title and the hot rod song could be quite melodic-"Custom Caravan", for example. http://www.satanspilgrims.com |
Joined: Mar 17, 2009 Posts: 24 san jose ca. |
OK,just to clarify,I wasn't slagging the Beach Boys,they do surf AND hot rod songs,but they have lyrics so it's easy to tell which is which. BTW watching "Tales of the Rat Fink" (the story of Ed "Big Daddy" Roth) on Hulu right now. |
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