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Surf drumming - my subjective thoughts
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Joined: May 19, 2009 Posts: 1263 Austin, Tejas 
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Posted on Oct 08 2009 08:34 AM
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Joined: Jan 01, 2008 Posts: 2106 Livorno 
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Posted on Oct 08 2009 08:40 AM
Not only I do not use that, but my favorite remains the fabulous Ludwig Speed King. I use a 70s one with regular or wood beater. —Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini |
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Posted on Oct 08 2009 10:28 AM
I believe Jonathan aka 65crolyte uses a double pedal (judiciously). —Danny Snyder Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19313 Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Oct 08 2009 11:04 AM
I think there was a whole thread on that: http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=5311 —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
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Joined: May 19, 2009 Posts: 1263 Austin, Tejas
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Posted on Oct 08 2009 12:34 PM
So there is. Interesting debate. For the record (or CD), our drummer has been using a double kick to great effect for about 10 years. Just like with guitar effects, you have to use them tastefully. —Ted James |
Joined: Dec 21, 2009 Posts: 154 Burbank, Ca.
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Posted on Dec 21 2009 07:19 PM
the volcanics have some good drumming too. woop! that's all, carry on. b |
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Posted on Jan 29 2010 09:32 PM
...and no hi-hat!!! Here's what real surf-frat-garage rock drumming's all about:
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Joined: Dec 21, 2009 Posts: 154 Burbank, Ca.
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Posted on Apr 24 2010 11:25 PM
nice shot jim! do you have any others of the frankie and derek? what a great night/show that was, nebulas, infrareds, and volcanics. |
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Posted on Apr 26 2010 02:10 AM
don't forget the Mai Kai Gents, Benny. Jeff(bigtikidude) |
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Posted on Apr 26 2010 02:14 AM
oh yeah, thats right. i played with mk gents that night too. i have some great pics of us somewhere. |
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Posted on Apr 26 2010 02:20 AM
that was the 1st time I had heard of, or saw the Mai Kai gents. Jeff(bigtikidude) |
Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 885 Indianapolis, In
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Posted on Apr 26 2010 10:45 AM
No hi-hat? I need my hi-hat to rock out.I think that not having a hi-hat is like not having all six strings on a guitar. —Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
Joined: Jul 25, 2010 Posts: 4 Kauai,Hawaii 96714
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Posted on Aug 04 2010 01:13 AM
i'd like to add my 2 cents. Just a grom to the site and a drummer at that so it's cool to hear mostly string players talk skins. The fun for me playing surf is the ability to really be a part of the song,not just a backbeat or a loose fill here and there. A good melodic drum part,single stroke rolls,hi-hats and cymbals all join with the melodies in their certain places and create the feel. Whatever the time sig. is, surf has a pulse: and that gets lost in a lot of other genres. And there is the difference between a lot of drummers, surf or otherwise,projecting the groove or pulse of a song and adding your own flavor to it. Mel Taylor was the best of the old school in my opinion mostly because of his tasty jazz backround(ginger baker,mitch mitchel). A lot of the drummers back then came out of the swing and jazz schools. Today it's a mixed bag, traditional,modern,punk, you name it and the influence is there. I personally use a mix of styles, depending on the song and try not to box myself in to much to having to play any specific way. We should have our first CD out soon and see what ya think. I do play DW drums and hardware and use zildjan customs and vintage. I also use a 22" constantinople med ride and love it. That's it for now-Aloha |
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Posted on Aug 04 2010 01:31 AM
radontherock, You you hit the nail on the head in so many ways it's almost shocking.A surf/instro drummer to me is such a major part of the song being played it's almost like we are the the whole driving force behind a great surf instro to play with in my area. To me that is surf/instro main appeal to me as drummer.Sure I like the reverb guitar,and all but what I really like is the unlimited direction the genre offers a musician in general. A group tends to change directions I don't wanna play when it comes to doing vocal songs. The label of surf music is somewhat changing,but to me it has limitless possibilities that could go on ,and on forever.To be fresh,and innovative is,and should always be a challenge.So far this is the genre of music that has never let me down when it comes to it's creativity. —Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
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Joined: Jul 25, 2010 Posts: 4 Kauai,Hawaii 96714
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Posted on Aug 04 2010 01:00 PM
brandonio, I am with you 100% about the vocals and lack of said in surf. All players, including myself sing in different bands but the TakeOffs are strictly NON VOCAL. Let the music do the talking. There's no place to hide either, so you have to listen to what all the players are doing and blend in. Since this is about drums, what do you think about shells and the difference between birch,maple,oak or the newer mahogany plies? 6,8, or 10 ? I played a couple of late 60's Ludwig kits 3-4 years ago w/birch 6-8ply shells and really liked the tones in small rooms. recorded with the red sparkle kit (20"bass) with just room mics and turned out pretty good. In the "recording" section there are some pics of the way we mic'ed up for our latest attempt @ making a decent recording. Bumpy's manifesto is fun to read. See all ya "beat puppets" later:=) |
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Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 885 Indianapolis, In
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Posted on Aug 04 2010 01:47 PM
I've been playing my Tama Swingstar set since '97 or so.I think that they are 8 plies of Philippine mahogany if my memory serves me correctly.Before that I played a late 70's Ludwig set which eventually got lost because of my generosity to my former guitar player. Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
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Posted on Aug 05 2010 09:43 AM
Nothing is more beautiful than a flowering bromance... http://www.satanspilgrims.com |
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Posted on Aug 05 2010 10:05 AM
Very funnY Ted! Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
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Joined: Jul 25, 2010 Posts: 4 Kauai,Hawaii 96714
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Posted on Aug 05 2010 12:02 PM
sounds like somebody's bowed up. the green eyed monster? |
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Posted on Aug 18 2010 03:45 PM
I've been watching alot of the vids posted from sg101 convention and man, some great stickwork. The Gretch kit used by Space Cossaks, is that a "catalina"? Beatiful RI Ludwig kit for the backline also. Does anyone recall cymbal sizes and makes on that setup or did everyone use their own? Aloha-Conrad |
I'm using coated ambassadors for toms and evans vented onthe snare. I like the evans for the pop and slightly less ring. For most surf gigs I use 14"x 5" maple 6ply. Great sound and stick response, single stroke madness. I do wonder about the older vintage kits and how they stand up to today's. Do the older shells really deliver a true "surf" tone? On a lot of the old recordings you really can't pull to much from the tracks. We don't have any other surf bands around here to compare to and I've only seen one live show (4 bands) and that was a couple years ago. Aloha Please visit our friends in the surf music community:
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