surfin_bird
Joined: Jun 09, 2009
Posts: 267
Amstelveen [The Netherlands]
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 03:47 PM
Hi
I am thinking about buying or building a pedalboard in the pedaltrain style.
Since I want to put my power underneath it and I don't need a fly case because I don't have a band
So I was wondering if anybody knows a cheaper pedaltrain style board or does somebody has a good diy option.
and what do you use as power I was thinking about a one stop or a harley benton powerplant
http://www.thomann.de/gb/harley_benton_powerplant.htm
all the other options seems so expensive and I don't see the advantage of it,
maybe someone can convince me 
(something for the pedaltrain, it seems so overpriced)
Ohh and is it a good idea to put a tuner pedal on it
and which one is good because I am using korg ga-30 portable tuner at the moment but it isn't always accurate when it's noise outside so I was thinking to buy a tc electronic polytune, or a modtone tuner because of the nice LED screen
Sorry for the list of questions but I don't have any experience with this and I have googled it but I see so much pro's and con's that I have only got more confused what to buy.
thanks
steve
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Mel
Joined: Feb 25, 2008
Posts: 321
Canada's Wet Coast
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 05:39 PM
I made one out of pine shelving for dirt cheap and it works very good. The top back is raised on one end so I can put a power bar under it for wall warts that my BBE Supacharger won't handle. The BBE also fits underneath that raised part and you can see it poking out a little.
The full size is 16 x 32 and I covered the thing in some 4" wide velcro that I got from an eBay seller.
Mel
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 05:44 PM
This is something that I've really looked into deeply. Personally, I built one myself and I just use a power strip with AC adapters daisy-chaining the effects.
However, if I had to do it right I would buy:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ATA-PEDAL-BOARD-CASE-26-CLOSEOUT-NEW-/350375723024?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item5194054010#ht_650wt_1016
and
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-T-Rex-Fuel-Tank-Classic-Pedal-Power-Supply-/370403038342?cmd=ViewItem&pt=Guitar_Accessories&hash=item563dbdd486#ht_2371wt_792
They make a smaller version of the "Fuel Tank" so that could save you some money.
I don't like those Pedaltrain boards... They really irk me.
And check out the turbo tuner, I own a Boss TU-2, but I'd get a Turbo Tuner again if I had to do it all over.
http://www.turbo-tuner.com/
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Mel
Joined: Feb 25, 2008
Posts: 321
Canada's Wet Coast
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 06:08 PM
surfin_bird
Ohh and is it a good idea to put a tuner pedal on it
and which one is good because I am using korg ga-30 portable tuner at the moment but it isn't always accurate when it's noise outside so I was thinking to buy a tc electronic polytune, or a modtone tuner because of the nice LED screen.
For tuners, largely depends on where you plan on using it, the accuracy you want and any additional "features" it might have you need.
Any time I ever did any studio work, the only tuners we ever used was Peterson strobes. I guess that biased me against the run of the mill 3-5 cent ones.
I use a Peterson Stroboflip, tried the Strobostomp but found it wasn't as good as the flip. I tried out the Turbo Tuner but I found it difficult to see in bright lights (outside or on stage for example), but it's certainly affordable.
I also found that Peterson iStrobosoft app for the iPhone works very well and it's only $10.
Mel
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 06:21 PM
Mel
For tuners, largely depends on where you plan on using it, the accuracy you want and any additional "features" it might have you need.
Or what type of player you are! Personally I find it priceless to be tuned several cents sharp or flat. In the studio I often tune up the first day and and just leave them be the rest of the time. Never does it sound anywhere near out of tune, but it is just nice as it can build some tension.
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Mel
Joined: Feb 25, 2008
Posts: 321
Canada's Wet Coast
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 06:36 PM
JakeDobner
Mel
For tuners, largely depends on where you plan on using it, the accuracy you want and any additional "features" it might have you need.
Or what type of player you are! Personally I find it priceless to be tuned several cents sharp or flat. In the studio I often tune up the first day and and just leave them be the rest of the time. Never does it sound anywhere near out of tune, but it is just nice as it can build some tension.
My Jake "outta left field sarcasm" detector just pinned...:D
Mel
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 06:50 PM
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JeffH
Joined: Apr 17, 2010
Posts: 97
PA
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 09:07 PM
I just play at home, but I use a Lyt pedalboard -
http://www.lytpedalboards.com/pedalboards
It's small and you can put your power supply under the raised part. I just use a One-Spot.
The Boss TU-2 is the standard, now there's a TU-3. Just be aware these have a buffer so it might affect your tone depending on what you use. I built a BYOC fuzz pedal, and it likes to be first. Then the tuner.
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andreuthegiant
Joined: May 27, 2007
Posts: 254
Madrid, Spain
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 09:13 PM
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DeadRanchHands
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Posts: 1281
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 09:51 PM
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Mel
Joined: Feb 25, 2008
Posts: 321
Canada's Wet Coast
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 10:00 PM
JakeDobner
Not at all!
We'll just let this be your little secret then. I know if I tried something like that after paying studio rates, my bandmates, the session players, the engineer or the producer would probably beat me to death with my own guitar. And rightly so.
Mel
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WoodyJ
Joined: Apr 05, 2006
Posts: 1547
Bethlehem, GA
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 11:08 PM
An old Furman SPB-8 I've had for eons. Works great. Just wish it had a case or a bag like the newer ones.
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Various non-surf bands that actually made money (1978-1990)
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davidphantomatic
Joined: Oct 12, 2008
Posts: 580
San Antone, TX
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Posted on Jul 29 2010 11:19 PM
I like Pedaltrain pedalboards alot, I had the PT1HC but I didn't need anything that large.
So I ordered the PT-Mini, which I like a lot also and definitely like the amount of space it saves.
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LHR
Joined: Aug 23, 2006
Posts: 2123
The jungle
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Posted on Jul 30 2010 12:01 AM
I made a pedal board thing. I don't think about it much but guys in other bands that we play with invariably ask me WTF it is, so I'll post here. What I did was to take an old typewriter (?) case with detachable hinges (though you could use any sufficiently rugged case or luggage and just Dremel away one-half of each hinge to make it work like this.) I then mounted a crappy Johnson MDF pedal board into it with epoxy. The Johnson board had a simple power distribution part which is why I used it in the first place, so I kept that intact. I power the whole thing with a One Spot and it seems to be working fine. The effects are held on with common, hardware store mending straps attached to the bottom screws of the pedals and the board itself with drywall screws. Cords, a power strip, a flashlight, and other whatnot go into the case.
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Blackbear
Joined: Dec 23, 2009
Posts: 86
The Jungle, Australia
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Posted on Jul 30 2010 06:31 AM
i use the boss bcb 60... its kinda ugly but it does the job, my dad paid for it so i can't complain. cos its the hard plastic that never breaks i can be rough with it.
http://www.bosscorp.co.jp/products/en/BCB-60/
ps: it also comes with all the patch cables, power adaptwer, enough daisy'd power jack things for 8 pedals, and has sealable rails to keep all the wires hidden/neat, and foam cutouts keep the pedals sturdy.
a second hand one would be the go
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hlieboff59
Joined: Jun 27, 2008
Posts: 576
Marlboro, New Jersey
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Posted on Jul 30 2010 08:35 AM
I kept it simple. I bought a couple pieces of wood (triple thick plywood and a piece of 2x4) paint it black and with a couple of long strong wood screws and velcro. Probaly make some other renovations to it in the sometime future.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jul 30 2010 09:14 AM
Mel
JakeDobner
Not at all!
We'll just let this be your little secret then. I know if I tried something like that after paying studio rates, my bandmates, the session players, the engineer or the producer would probably beat me to death with my own guitar. And rightly so.
Mel
You really can't tell, a couple cents really isn't very much. And I'm sensitive to de-tuned strings. I just happen not to mind. It's a musical aesthetic choice. Having everything perfectly in tune just can sound way too sterile. And in a lot of the duller surf music, that is a problem. So having a few cents deviation is not the end of the world, it just builds some tension. Anything serious, you have to retune. And there is a difference of being a few cents shy and out of tune.
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CrispyGoodness
Joined: Apr 06, 2009
Posts: 565
North Cackalacky
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Posted on Jul 31 2010 01:30 PM
Here's mine--made from a kitchen cabinet door blank, some non-skid stick-on feet, a couple of gate handles, and a whole lot of velcro tape and blue paint.
--Crispy
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Mel
Joined: Feb 25, 2008
Posts: 321
Canada's Wet Coast
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Posted on Jul 31 2010 02:13 PM
JakeDobner
Mel
JakeDobner
Not at all!
We'll just let this be your little secret then. I know if I tried something like that after paying studio rates, my bandmates, the session players, the engineer or the producer would probably beat me to death with my own guitar. And rightly so.
Mel
You really can't tell, a couple cents really isn't very much. And I'm sensitive to de-tuned strings. I just happen not to mind. It's a musical aesthetic choice. Having everything perfectly in tune just can sound way too sterile. And in a lot of the duller surf music, that is a problem. So having a few cents deviation is not the end of the world, it just builds some tension. Anything serious, you have to retune. And there is a difference of being a few cents shy and out of tune.
I'll agree to call it "a musical aesthetic choice" and leave it at that.
Mel
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SurfBandBill
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Posts: 1487
San Francisco
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Posted on Jul 31 2010 08:19 PM
Nice and simple. I custom-made the box myself, lined it with non-slip rubber matting used for stairs, and I attached the pedals themselves to a piece of lightweight sheet metal, so that I could lift the whole shebang out without any issues with the box itself. It's self-contained, has a cabinet hinge on the top so I can carry it like a briefcase, and I have two slide-in panels that encase the whole thing when I'm not using it.
~B~
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