SurferBill
Joined: Dec 20, 2009
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Jax, FL
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Posted on Jul 19 2010 09:40 PM
Thanks Ivan Pongracic!, from The Maderia...great guy and great band. He sent us some very informative emails about all the components to finding that Astronauts-like drip. We use it a little on our new tune Witches Rock.
Thanks,
Bill
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ratfink5
Joined: Jan 05, 2010
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 08:59 AM
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IvanP
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 10:12 AM
Very glad to hear it, Bill!
ratfink, here's what I wrote Bill and Elle:
If you want the drip, here are a couple of tips, which you may or may not be aware of: 1) the drip resides in the treble frequencies, so don't be afraid to turn up the treble on your amp; 2) the sound can get very harsh when you do that, so it's important to control it with palm-muting, which also makes the drip jump out more - you can't really hear the drip very much if you're not palm-muting (and you should vary the amount of your palm-muting, experiment with heavy muting, light muting, and all points in between to find the best results); 3) for the best drip sound, use both pickups on at the same time on your Jazzmaster and the reverb setting close to 6-6-6, maybe a bit more on the mix. I find that I can't use the same reverb setting for the songs that have a heavy drip and ones where I play smoother, more flowing lines - heavy reverb makes the lines sound really harsh and lacking in sustain if I'm not palm-muting. So, I adjust the Mix controls on the reverb unit from song to song. There you go, hopefully that'll help a bit.
Sharing the secrets of the trade here!  however, I'm just paying it forward - I got many of those tips from Evan Foster of the Boss Martians back in '98, before the Cossacks went in to record our first album.
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UnsteadyFreddie
Joined: Feb 28, 2006
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Hell\'s Kitchen, NYC
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 11:29 AM
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SurferBill
Joined: Dec 20, 2009
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Jax, FL
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 12:14 PM
There he is....I think you said flats are better than rounds for drip...somebody did.
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DeadRanchHands
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 12:20 PM
SurferBill
There he is....I think you said flats are better than rounds for drip...somebody did.
I think they are - they have a thunky attack, and sustain less, which I think works best for drip.
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gc24
Joined: Jul 22, 2009
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 07:27 PM
Thanks. What about for a Strat or Jag?
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SurferBill
Joined: Dec 20, 2009
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Jax, FL
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 08:04 PM
Ivan plays a Strat ...for the more aggressive sound...he gets lots of drip.
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jul 20 2010 10:36 PM
For Astronauts level drip, crank the dwell and tone especially. But listen to Ivan, gotta use the palm or it'll pierce your skull
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ratfink5
Joined: Jan 05, 2010
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Posted on Jul 21 2010 08:50 AM
Cool, Thanks for sharing guys!!
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DeadRanchHands
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Posted on Jul 21 2010 09:32 AM
Even on the Amplitube Fender simulation of the 63 reverb, that's a 6-6-6 thing is a good setting - provided you palm mute it.
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rotnroby
Joined: Mar 31, 2010
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Aug 01 2010 11:27 AM
Palm-mute is the key!! I also love the Drip factor that the astronauts make so clear in their recordings!! I find that Reverb units very.. I have a 63 reissue that I uses at time and i also have a Gomez G-Spring plus a fender vintage 64 reverb unit.. All reverb units sound different .. however as far a the "drip factor" Ivan's right,, Palm mute is key!!! I find if I turn my tone knob up to 8 and my mix at 5.5 and my dwell at 5 that's the sweet spot for the "Drip Factor" great for 8th note palm muting .. The Astronauts just killed it!!!!
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JeffLeites
Joined: Mar 27, 2006
Posts: 343
North Hollywood, California
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Posted on Aug 07 2010 11:02 PM
UnsteadyFreddie
6-6-6, eh?
Unsteady Freddie
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Aug 07 2010 11:55 PM
JeffLeites
UnsteadyFreddie
6-6-6, eh?
Unsteady Freddie
Yeah... You can solicit help to becoming the best surf player by dialing in 6-6-6 on your reverb at the crossroads.
The Number of the Beast: 6-6-6 is where i always begin my reverberation experiments ...
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Richard
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Georgia
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Posted on Aug 08 2010 07:53 AM
The Surge play lots of Astronauts stuff. I've never achieved the level of drip I wanted.
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rotnroby
Joined: Mar 31, 2010
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Aug 08 2010 09:38 AM
Richard
The Surge play lots of Astronauts stuff. I've never achieved the level of drip I wanted.
Palm muting.. I also use 13's flat's on my guitars..
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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Seattle
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Posted on Aug 08 2010 09:45 AM
Whenever I read this thread title I can only think of the Go-Go's "We Got the Beat".
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rotnroby
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Aug 08 2010 09:54 AM
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Icetech
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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Macomb Mich
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Posted on Aug 08 2010 09:54 AM
JakeDobner
Whenever I read this thread title I can only think of the Go-Go's "We Got the Beat".
And now thats all i will see when i read the title:( thanks! Jane is still cute though..
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Icetech
Joined: Dec 16, 2006
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Macomb Mich
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Posted on Aug 08 2010 10:04 AM
Thanks for this thread... finally got around to reading it and it explains much.. i have tried everything except turning up more trevle.. it makes my ears bleed:)
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