BillyBlastOff
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Ventura County, Calif.
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Posted on Jun 15 2010 07:32 PM
rotnroby
BillyBlastOff
Twin Reverb?
One of the best amps ever made.
Too heavy? Only if your a pussy!
;D
Guess i'm a pussy well maybe not me in general however my back is a different story..

I hear ya Roby. Those Twins can be a bear at times, especially going upstairs. That's when you hit up your band mates for a little love. Just be sure not to ask the drummer for help, cause he's already pissed off and wished he played harmonica. 
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rotnroby
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Jun 15 2010 09:14 PM
BillyBlastOff
rotnroby
BillyBlastOff
Twin Reverb?
One of the best amps ever made.
Too heavy? Only if your a pussy!
;D
Guess i'm a pussy well maybe not me in general however my back is a different story..

I hear ya Roby. Those Twins can be a bear at times, especially going upstairs. That's when you hit up your band mates for a little love. Just be sure not to ask the drummer for help, cause he's already pissed off and wished he played harmonica. 
Totally!!!! You nailed it!!!
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estreet
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United Kingdom
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Posted on Jun 15 2010 09:46 PM
I used to have the 130w Twin (oversized transformer) with 2 JBLs. It was so heavy it felt like it was bolted down when you went to pick it up.It was like carrying another person around with you. Fantastic amp though, I used all the time I was in a Rockabilly/Rock n' Roll band: Brilliant sound, staggeringly loud, clean and big, but not sterile in my opinion.
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crumble
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Guildford England
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Posted on Jun 15 2010 11:38 PM
I read this story (on the internet of course!) ..during a very loud gig, a twin reverb decided to drive it self around the stage! The amp was on wheels and the stage floor very smooth, apparently the speakers were pumping so much air it set sail! 
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LHR
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The jungle
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 12:14 AM
crumble
I read this story (on the internet of course!) ..during a very loud gig, a twin reverb decided to drive it self around the stage! The amp was on wheels and the stage floor very smooth, apparently the speakers were pumping so much air it set sail! 
I would doubt this account. The Twin Reverb is open back; it pushes almost as much air from the back of the speaker as from the front.
My favorite Twin Reverb story is the one Ted Nugent tells. Apparently he used to tour with a wall of Twins and a bird flew in front and was disintegrated during a particularly thunderous phrase. Again, doubtful but fun.
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rotnroby
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 12:19 AM
LHR
crumble
I read this story (on the internet of course!) ..during a very loud gig, a twin reverb decided to drive it self around the stage! The amp was on wheels and the stage floor very smooth, apparently the speakers were pumping so much air it set sail! 
I would doubt this account. The Twin Reverb is open back; it pushes almost as much air from the back of the speaker as from the front.
My favorite Twin Reverb story is the one Ted Nugent tells. Apparently he used to tour with a wall of Twins and a bird flew in front and was disintegrated during a particularly thunderous phrase. Again, doubtful but fun.
Yeah Ted probably shot it with his crossbow.. " Can't grill it tell ya kill it!" gotta love Ted.. 
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Hoosier-Hodad
Joined: Jun 09, 2009
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San Jose, CA.
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 01:57 AM
The 6G8-A Twin - Amps share the same circuit as the 6G14-A Showman. The main tonal difference comes from the cabinet configurations. I have both the 6G8 and 6G8-A Twin-Amp. The chassis are not shared w/ the Showman. There have been several documented cases of tweed era Twin - Amps covered in Fender factory brown tolex in this early period. If the materials were on-hand at the Fender factory many odd combination's of Fender amps could have been made during this early 1960-61 period at Fender. Also of note - The Tweed Twin is said to have stayed in production until March of 1960. I have one of the first 100. Also the only combo in Blonde tolex. They are ferocious amps, but they are heavy. As an option you could upgrade to Lansing D-120 F speakers, but I prefer the Jensen's or even Oxfords even with the risk of blowing the speakers. Let me know if you come across a LP Brown 5G8 Twin.
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rotnroby
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 09:23 AM
Hoosier-Hodad
The 6G8-A Twin - Amps share the same circuit as the 6G14-A Showman. The main tonal difference comes from the cabinet configurations. I have both the 6G8 and 6G8-A Twin-Amp. The chassis are not shared w/ the Showman. There have been several documented cases of tweed era Twin - Amps covered in Fender factory brown tolex in this early period. If the materials were on-hand at the Fender factory many odd combination's of Fender amps could have been made during this early 1960-61 period at Fender. Also of note - The Tweed Twin is said to have stayed in production until March of 1960. I have one of the first 100. Also the only combo in Blonde tolex. They are ferocious amps, but they are heavy. As an option you could upgrade to Lansing D-120 F speakers, but I prefer the Jensen's or even Oxfords even with the risk of blowing the speakers. Let me know if you come across a LP Brown 5G8 Twin.
Well finely we have an expert.. I once was the proud owner of a Blonde "Twin Amp" It's had the JBL option and it was so heavy that it felt I was lifting small Car! Really!! it was not my dream amp! I actually hurt myself the first day of owning the amp! I sold it back to the original owner and lost money! Mine was the later blonde w/ wheat grill cloth.. Nice amp but the weight was truly a deal breaker..
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Hoosier-Hodad
Joined: Jun 09, 2009
Posts: 135
San Jose, CA.
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 03:51 PM
The Twin-Amp in particular has a very interesting history. There was apparently a short run of brown tolex high-power Twins during the first quarter of 1960. The first Showman was almost surly a brown tolex as well. These early Showman Amps were brown tolex with single 12" and 15" Lansing speakers. If they are still in existence today they would be a great and unique amp to have. There are few absolutes during this period of time at Fender, but no 5 pre-amp/2 output tube original Twin-Amp has surfaced and been authenticated contrary to published books on the subject. The Twin-Amp is a rare find today and in my opinion is the best version built.
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rotnroby
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 03:58 PM
Hoosier-Hodad
The Twin-Amp in particular has a very interesting history. There was apparently a short run of brown tolex high-power Twins during the first quarter of 1960. The first Showman was almost surly a brown tolex as well. These early Showman Amps were brown tolex with single 12" and 15" Lansing speakers. If they are still in existence today they would be a great and unique amp to have. There are few absolutes during this period of time at Fender, but no 5 pre-amp/2 output tube original Twin-Amp has surfaced and been authenticated contrary to published books on the subject. The Twin-Amp is a rare find today and in my opinion is the best version built.
Well just how many Twin amp's were built?
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Hoosier-Hodad
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San Jose, CA.
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 04:34 PM
~525, but nobody can say for sure. This is based on a grass-roots effort. The Twin-Amp's production number will be one of the more accurate since the chassis was unique for this amp to compensate for the 2x12 combo. The Vibrasonic chassis was shared with the Showman, so those numbers are harder to pin down the real distribution. The Vibrasonic has tube socket plate covers that are rivited in place over the 2 unused holes cut in the chassis. The production numbers for these 2 amps can only be rough estimations. You have a stack of chassis and one can go to the Vibrasonic the other to the Showman. The sequencing is non-linear.
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rotnroby
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Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on Jun 16 2010 04:53 PM
Hoosier-Hodad
~525, but nobody can say for sure. This is based on a grass-roots effort. The Twin-Amp's production number will be one of the more accurate since the chassis was unique for this amp to compensate for the 2x12 combo. The Vibrasonic chassis was shared with the Showman, so those numbers are harder to pin down the real distribution. The Vibrasonic has tube socket plate covers that are rivited in place over the 2 unused holes cut in the chassis. The production numbers for these 2 amps can only be rough estimations. You have a stack of chassis and one can go to the Vibrasonic the other to the Showman. The sequencing is non-linear.
Good to know.. I have a kinda rare Bandmaster 61 w/ 12'' tone ring cabinet just a fabulous sounding amp..
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Hoosier-Hodad
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San Jose, CA.
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Posted on Jun 17 2010 03:01 AM
This Bandmaster 1-12" is one of my favorites. I consider it one of the best Bandmasters.
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da-ron
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The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Jun 17 2010 06:49 AM
How much difference is there between a Showman and a ToneMaster?
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rotnroby
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Posted on Jun 17 2010 08:46 AM
Hoosier-Hodad
This Bandmaster 1-12" is one of my favorites. I consider it one of the best Bandmasters.
Thanks.. It's a beautiful sounding amp.. I got a great deal on it as well I use it primarily for recording it's the best Surf amp I own.. Love the tremolo !!! 
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rotnroby
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Posted on Jun 17 2010 08:48 AM
da-ron
How much difference is there between a Showman and a ToneMaster?
I think the Tone Master is 100 watts and the Showman is like 85 Watts.. Totally different amps though..
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scotstandard
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Davenport Iowa
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Posted on Jun 18 2010 12:04 AM
the only thing the brown showman and tone master have in common are cosmetics.
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rotnroby
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Posted on Jun 18 2010 12:08 AM
scotstandard
the only thing the brown showman and tone master have in common are cosmetics.
Yeah Scot, we know you have both!
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scotstandard
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Davenport Iowa
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Posted on Jun 18 2010 12:15 AM
I don't have a tone master
2x 62 showman's
1x 62 bandmaster
1x 62 pro
1x 61 concert
Thats all the brownface stuff I have
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rotnroby
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Posted on Jun 18 2010 10:05 AM
scotstandard
I don't have a tone master
2x 62 showman's
1x 62 bandmaster
1x 62 pro
1x 61 concert
Thats all the brownface stuff I have
I thought you said you picked up a tone master and it wasn't the amp you remembered it to be! Or perhaps you just played one and felt that way? Well you have a nice stash anyway!!
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