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Hello everyone, Im interested in getting one of the three mosrite copies. 1-univox hi flyer, 2-dillion, 3-eastwood. I have a line on a univox hi flyer early phase 2 model. very clean and all original, I have seen and played a univox in the past and was happy with it, But have never seen or played the eastwood or dillion model. Anyone own or played any of these 3 guitars. Any info would help.....Thank you

Forget those and look into a Hallmark 60 Custom Also check the Mosrite Forum for all you could ever hope to know about Mosrites and their clones.

Hey fritzcat, wow nice hallmark. Alittle pricy for me. Im on a tight guitar budget of $500.00 or less so I think Im stuck deciding between the 3. Thanks for the info on the mosrite forum.....

Yeah i have a Hallmark and its pretty sweet(Thanks Mel) ive been trying to register for that forum but it wont let me, maybe they dont like me there haha

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I've got an Eastwood Sidejack. I bought it on eBay after a night in the pub for £150GBP (about $200USD).
It's a nice, solid guitar, edge-bound, well finished and sounds OK. Mine has the earlier Burns tremolo unit which I really like. Stays in tune well, and has been pretty reliable. Had quite a few appreciative comments about it when I've played live with it. Dick Dale signed the truss rod cover, so it's probably one of a kind!

Here is the not so good stuff. The neck is quite Gibson-esque. Not as cricket-bat as a Gibson SG, in fact it's pretty slim, but the frets are pretty tall and chunky and took some getting used to after the super fast slinky Rickenbacker I've played for 20 years. If it needed a refret I would replace them with something thinner and lower.
It needs a decent setup - I'm planning on getting this done while I'm at SurferJoe's in June. At the moment the action is higher than I like despite getting it as low as I can it frets out in a few places on the top E. It needs some fretwork or dressing.

If you can get one at a good price, and get it properly set up, I think they are half-decent guitars. Certainly not cheap knockouts and certainly up to gigging standard.

Eastwoods are not very common in the UK, Hallmarks are unobtainable and original Mosrite's super rare. The Eastwood is a viable instrument in my opinion.

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Saying a sg neck is cricket bat feeling, is that small or large? I would picture that meaning wide and flat.. both of my sg's have tiny necks, after playing my strat or dano i feel all cramped on the sg's...

I wanna play just like him when i grow up...

i don't think you can go wrong with the Univox. Especially if it has the early p90 p/u's. I owned a '71 Custom and loved it. I only sold it to finance my SGV...still makes me sad though.

Aside from that, the Univox will appreciate in value, the others are Chinese, and will never be worth what you're going to pay.

You should also check out the Aria DM-380. I bought one of these not too long ago & actually it's pretty good. Though I probably will replace the trem and tuners. You can get them in a surfy green color too!
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These lower budget guitars don't really have much in common with a Mosrite other than the general body shape. That being said, I'm putting a vote in for one that hasn't been mentioned - the DiPinto Mach IV. Shop around, and you can find one with a Jaguar style trem for about 5 hundred.

I've owned two with and two without the trem, and they're great all around guitars. The newer ones have a coil tap feature that shuts off one of the single coils from the bridge 'dual single'. I'm not a neck pick up kinda guy, but the neck pick up sound on most of these that I've owned is among my favorites. They're built solid as hell, and if you ever have to deal with him, Chris DiPinto is really great to deal with.

My MIJ Jaguar needed a set up and some other minor work, and a pickup upgrade, but before I got that done, my gold sparkle Mach IV with trem was my favorite guitar.

I experimented with a pickup upgrade and the bozo luthier routed it without telling me he was going to, and did a crappy job, so I don't play it much anymore, but that's another story all together. I've owned an Eastwood Hi-Flyer, and imho, the Mach IV beats the pants off it.

I have the Hallmark Custom 60's and EastWood Side Deluxe (the model with the Jag trem setup). Apart from the fact that the Hallmark costs about twice what the Sidejack does, the build quality of each is at opposite ends of the rainbow.

The Hallmark, out of the box was intonated, fit and finished perfectly. It was easy to adjust and restring to my own liking (toss the rounds put on 11-50 flats). From Hallmark action was set very low, good for a feel player. Trem unit is one of the nicest I've used and stays in tune very well. The Hallmark has a zero fret neck. Under the pickguard everything is nicely laid out and easy to work on.

The Sidejack, out of the box, wasn't playable. E and B strings fretted out on the 10th and 13th frets. The nut looks like it was cut with a paring knife. The frets weren't levelled properly from factory and fret end dressing was non-existant. The store I bought it from sent it out to have the neck done and I got it back and the neck was finally set up correctly.

The Eastwoods neck pickup wasn't adjustable because the pickguard was cut and/or fitted incorrectly and jammed into the side of the pickup. When I took the pickguard off to see what else was wrong, well, don't do that unless you really want to see the can of worms in this thing. Pickguard holes drilled in the wrong place, so they drilled new ones, glued in blocks of wood to catch the screws (easier than correctly routing the body), neck pickup was blocked up with a piece of wood, some divers suit was cut incorrectly and was jamming the pickup cover so there was no way to adjust the height and the guitar clear coat slopped down the side of the pickup hole and needed to be ground out. The pots used are those "mini" style, shielding is two small pieces of foil around the pots and pickup switch.

The store gave me a good discount so I decided to keep the Sidejack and fix it up myself. Took me two days of work but I fixed Sidejack to move it from a project guitar to a player. The only part I didn't have to adjust was the tremolo.

Play wise, both guitars play well although you can get a lot lower action on the Hallmark than the Eastwood if you want to. Sound wise, keep in mind both mine are using flats (ECG24's), the Eastwood is hotter and has more twang like my Tele. With the pups set at the factory spec clearance it was over drive city, had to drop them down 1/8" tame it. Both guitars have pronounced lower and mid range sound. Work up the B and E strings and the Eastwood has more treble available than the Hallmark. Both stay in tune very well even using the whammy's a lot.

Do either one of them sound like a vintage Mosrite? My opinion is that the Hallmark is closer but still has a way to go. The Sidejack, not so much. It sounds more like hot twang closer to a Tele in a country band. Both guitars produce usable sound, but if you're after vintage Mosrite sound, well, the only real choice would be a vintage Mosrite.

I'd never buy another Eastwood Sidejack unless I got it really cheap and wanted a project guitar, I'd have no qualms about buying another Hallmark. I bought the Hallmark online, the Eastwood through a store locally.

So maybe it's true you get what you pay for, or maybe I just got the Eastwood that was made on a Friday at 5pm by the rookie on the assembly line, or I got Bob Shades personal Hallmark, I don't know. But when I contacted Eastwood about it, they didn't seem surprised at all. On that note I should add, both companies were very responsive to any emails I sent them, Bob answered my questions, Eastwood (Peter) offered me a discount if I bought another guitar from them... Shocked

Mel

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There's a Hallmark Custom 60 for sale on the board right now.

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My first mosrite copy is a high flier phase 2 and I fell in love with the pickups, they are really cool
The guitar is kind of a toy. I put klusons on it and did everything in my power to make it "stage worthy" but didnt cut it. Its still a cheap copy and very toyish

It turned me on to the mosrite's I now have two vintage mosrites (65 and a 66)

I played an eastwood once and wasent a killer guitar but not bad for a few hundred bux.

I have never played a halmark but have heard great things on
www.mosriteforum.com
and think they are the best copy for the money.

If I were in your shoes I would save a couple of bux for the halmark. There is one for sale on the forum right now. Id go after that one.

Univox's are fetching hi prices (down at the moment) but ultimately its kind of a piece of junk.
If you can get it for $200 bux or less I say get it.
Dont pay $500 for one.

I do still love mine it turned me on to the mosrite's.
great pickups (not quite like mosrite's but nice and hot p90's!)

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I have found the opposite of scotstandard, I love the sound that he gets, I have listened to all of his myspace tunes, but for me Mosrites just don't work for me. I have a Hi flier that I bought years ago for $39.95, and I still play it a lot. I tried to upgrade and bought a real Mosrite Ventures, and I was glad I kept the Univox. I sold the Mosrite. I would give some caution about Univox, I have worked in guitar repair for 31 years and have seen a lot of Hi fliers. Stay away from the plywood ones, really check out the pickups, because there are huge differences in quality, some pickups are some of the best pickups out there, some are junk, crank them at high volume before you buy. Also check the neck I have seen some weird problems with dead spots, so of course never buy one unless you can play it. I like Dillion, never owed one but worked on a few. Eastwoods seem good it they are Korean, the Chinese have fret problems.

I had an Eastwood Sidejack and found the frets to be too big & the tremolo to be junk. The neck just had a kind of "chunky" feel. I've heard the trem on the earlier Eastwood were better however. The electronics & pickups were ok and it certainly looked sharp.

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I def have a plywood Hi Flier. I got the good pickups though. I stand behind those pickups any day.

Mosrite just feels so solid and nice. You really half to get used to the neck though.

Lately my #1 has been the 60 Jazzmaster.
Very cool. Clean and crisp.

Somewhere between those pickups and the mosrite pickups are my ideal pickup!

but sadly the mosy has been sitting at home last few shows

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I had an Eastwood Sidejack and found the frets to be too big & the tremolo to be junk. The neck just had a kind of "chunky" feel. I've heard the trem on the earlier Eastwood were better however. The electronics & pickups were ok and it certainly looked sharp.

Eastwood's are different for different years. The 2010 model uses the Jag style trem, the 2009 uses the Burns style trem. I don't know what preceded those years. I've had no trouble at all with the Jag style trem staying in tune.

The frets on my 2010 Sidejack DLX style are narrower (2.7mm wide) but the same height as my 2008 USA Tele (2.9mm wide). IIRC the Tele uses medium/jumbo frets.

But to compare the Sidejack to a Hallmark, the Hallmark frets are 2mm wide and wire frets so they not only look different, they feel and play different to me.

According to the web sites, the specs show the Hallmark and Eastwood guitars have the same neck width. I measured both of mine and the Hallmark is narrower at the nut and has a zero fret neck, whereas the Eastwood has the more common plastic nut.

About the only things these guitars have in common is the two pickup set up and body style. From that point on they are two very different guitars.

Much of this probably can be attributed to which factory, in which year, and at what point during parts inventory the guitar was made and assembled...I think it best that if you can try these before you buy them and make sure you can return it if it turns out bad.

Mel

Mel

FritzCat
Forget those and look into a Hallmark 60 Custom Also check the Mosrite Forum for all you could ever hope to know about Mosrites and their clones.

Now I wish I could have one Hallmark. Looks great, doesn't it?

The "Mosrite of Century" line was a less expensive version (about $500) of the "Mosrite of Classics" guitars. Although a pick-up and bridge/trem assembly swap is necessary, and will add to the cost, the neck and body were identical to the more expensive line, which themselves were identical to the real deal.

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For anyome interested in how various Hallmark guitars sound, Hallmark Guitars have a new CD of tunes, called The Kustom Kings, by Hallmark-playing artists. You should recognize everyone.

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Read all about it. http://hallmarkguitars.com/music/kustom-kings/kustom-kings.html

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Last edited: Aug 07, 2012 17:13:42

I own a Semie Mosrite Mk. V, a Dana Mosrite Mk. I and a Aria Diamond DM380 (with pup upgrade to M 3). While nothing comes close to a real Mosrite, the DM380 is quite appealing. Especially with the pup upgrade you can buy a guitar that gets somewhere in the direction of a Mosrite for the lowest possible budget.
When I was in the US the last time I also had the opportunity to check out a Univox. I liked it, but the price wasn't fair and it didn't play 'that well'.
I've ordered a 60 custom Hallmark as well (have to wait for the next production run). So I can't say anything about them until it arrives.
But the best and lowest budget option would be the DM380 with a pup upgrade, imho. Or save up some $ and buy a 60 custom...actually I'd go for that option.

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