Hey guys,
I'm looking to buy a jazzmaster copy soon and i was wondering if a buzz stop is necessary for fast 'dick dale like' picking.
I have heard jazzmaster are notorious with strings sliding off the bridge.
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Is a Buzz Stop necessary for Jazzmaster?
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Joined: May 14, 2010 Posts: 34 Wilmington, DE |
Posted on May 20 2010 05:45 PM
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Posted on May 20 2010 05:50 PM
No, they aren't necessary at all. A properly set-up Jazzmaster will give you zero problems. I don't like the buzz stop because it changes the characteristics of the tremolo system. |
Joined: Apr 05, 2006 Posts: 1547 Bethlehem, GA 
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Posted on May 20 2010 06:03 PM
Ditto, and well said! —Jack Booth The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005) |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan
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Posted on May 20 2010 06:12 PM
No, but a Stratocaster is necessary for 'Dick Dale-like' picking.
Ivan |
Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on May 20 2010 06:14 PM
Dick Dale is a Stratocaster guy!!! Also I use a Jazzmaster and NO BUZZSTOP! Never had a problem with my strings and the bridge.. Well I do use 54-13 gauge strings.. Still double picking is still easy on a Jazzmaster but a Stratocaster is really great for the Dick Dale style!! It's all good... Leave the buzzstop at home.. |
Joined: Aug 09, 2007 Posts: 308 Indianapolis
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Posted on May 20 2010 06:35 PM
They're definitely not necessary for Jazzmasters or Jaguars. A good setup is key (it usually helps to shim the neck a little on reissue models) and remember that these guitars were designed with heavy gauge flatwounds in mind. Most of the players I know that do find the buzzstop useful are using lighter roundwound strings. In any case, you can find buzzstops for $30 to $35 on eBay so it might be worth experimenting just to see how differently the guitar plays and feels with the buzzstop. —-Nick |
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Posted on May 20 2010 06:40 PM
/thread —Ryan |
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Joined: May 14, 2010 Posts: 34 Wilmington, DE |
Posted on May 20 2010 07:01 PM
I'm relieved to hear all of your responses because honestly, i didn't want to pay an extra 40 bucks when its not needed. on a side note, i just became a surfguitar101 member a couple days ago and i gotta hand it to you guys. You answer at lightning speed and are very well informed. Thanks |
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Joined: Mar 31, 2010 Posts: 877 Santa Barbara Ca... in the 805
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Posted on May 20 2010 07:50 PM
congratulations ... Nice to have you on board.. |
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Posted on May 21 2010 12:03 AM
Off topic a little... I just want to reiterate that there's nothing remotely wrong with the stock bridges on Jazzmasters/Jaguars. I just played for 3 hours nonstop and mostly high energy songs at this year's Bay To Breakers marathon in San Francisco. I had to retune one time and no strings popped off any saddles. I don't think I have what you'd call a light touch either. —Danny Snyder I am now playing trumpet with Prince Buster tribute band 'Balzac' Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
Joined: Oct 12, 2008 Posts: 580 San Antone, TX
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Posted on May 21 2010 12:55 AM
I agree with Danny that there's nothing wrong on the stock bridges. I'm sure it's something that could have been fixed, but I just found it easier to replace the bridge and have absolutely zero problems since. —The Phantomatics on Facebook |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california
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Posted on May 21 2010 08:07 PM
I didn't dig the buzzstop when I tried it out...it was all wrong for me. no buzzstop needed, in my opinion. |
Joined: Apr 11, 2010 Posts: 138 London |
Posted on May 22 2010 08:00 AM
Utterly agree with Jake. I strugled a bit until I got the right set up for my CIJ Jaguar - at some point even paid to a third party to do it for me (on the shop I bought the guitar; the guy was kind enough to explain me how to do it myself). Playing a big part on the solution was changing the bridge to a mustang bridge, and never had problems any more after that. Some people I know changed it to a Gibson roller bridge, also with great results. I consider that this is the most elegant choice as it doesn't compromise at all the look of the guitar (need to add that I prefer the look of the guitar without the buzz stop) and,as Jake've said, the buzzstop might changes the characteristics of the tremolo system. |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california
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Posted on May 22 2010 09:32 AM
The Buzzstop did change they way the tremolo system functioned, and not in a good way for me. The tremolo felt constipated. |
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Joined: Aug 09, 2007 Posts: 308 Indianapolis
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Posted on May 22 2010 10:22 AM
Well put! The buzzstop increases the tension, but in a very unnatural way that seems to take something away from the natural smoothness of the design. I also agree with the above post that Mustang saddles are often a great, inexpensive solution that doesn't detract from the aesthetic beauty of the Jaguar. —-Nick |
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Posted on May 22 2010 01:05 PM
Absolutely no need for a buzz-stop on a well-set up JM or Jaguar. They definitely affect the way the gutar plays (I think it affects the tone too, but could just be me hallucinatin'). Having said that, I think most of my necks are slightly shimmed to get the proper angle & string tension, and that also affects the way the guitars plays. In the end, it's a matter of what keeps the strings in the saddles, and what feels & sounds right to you, but you should try set ups with & without a buzz-stsop-- if you (or your guitar-tech)can get a decent sounding and playing set up without a buzz-stop, you're good to go au naturelle. —http://www.facebook.com/?sk=lf#!/rockinrio.delrosa |
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Posted on May 29 2010 05:47 AM
Good point! Jag and Jazzmaster necks almost always need to be shimmed. It's also a good idea to shim the neck if you play a Tele with a Bigsby. —-Nick |
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Posted on May 30 2010 06:18 PM
It seems to be the fate of offsets. Even my Custom Shop Bass VI came with a shimmed neck. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
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Posted on Mar 06 2011 10:14 AM
If anyone has got buzz-stop unit, please give theese dimentions. I'd like to make my own hand-made one, just to try and not to spend much on it. (better in milimetrs) Last edited: Mar 06, 2011 10:19:47 |
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Posted on Mar 06 2011 10:17 AM
And bthw, does american reissue jag/jm rtemolo system and bridge fits japaneese crafted jags? Last edited: Mar 06, 2011 10:21:53 |
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