Surf Music U.S.A. Book Thread

badash

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Posted on Sep 22 2006 08:50 AM

I'll take number 9. I didn't pipe up earlier cuz I thought the idea died. But I'll definitely take #9 although I hate to see you go to all that trouble, but if you're determined to do it anyway...

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Brian

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Posted on Sep 22 2006 09:48 AM

No one has posted any hard numbers yet, although a few people seem to know them. I will go off and ask what they can do for us and then we can decide if it is worth it to go in together or just do it all as individuals.

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outsides

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Posted on Sep 22 2006 09:49 AM

me too, if it's gonna happen.
I'm definitely interested.
-outsides

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Brian

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Posted on Sep 22 2006 10:38 PM

This is making my head hurt. But here are the options:

Stephen McParland
Hi Brian,

Thanks for your help in promoting the book so far.
Unfortunately, the book is not mass produced - none of my books are.
I simply don't have the room to store hundreds of books and keep everything available (over 20 titles).
The saving would be in the postage as postage costs here are outrageous.
Also, bear in mind that each copy weighs in at 1.2 kilos!
My fault for making the book so indepth - as always.
For 10 copies or more, I can drop the price per book to $42.
However, the big saving is in the postage.

For 10 books
$133 for Airmail (1-2 weeks) - (13.30 per book instead of $23!)
$75 for Seamail (6-12 weeks) - (7.50 per book)

I would advise insuring these shipments. Add $8 for insurance.

17 is the maximum number I can send via the post office (limit of 20kilos).

For 17 books
$213 for Airmail (12.50 per book)
$121 for Seamail (7.10 per book)

Again, insurance is advised. Same of $8 - it's just so they can be tracked.

As you can see, there's not such a big saving on getting 17 instead of 10.

I can send them FEDEX in a 25 Kilo box (22 books).
Last price I had from them (without knowing your zipcode) was $208. (that's 9.45 per book). Fed-Ex is door to door.

Anyway, thanks for the enquiry and sorry I can't provide the books at a
better price.
What I really need is a publisher (or someone) in the US !!!

SJ

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Chopper

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Posted on Sep 23 2006 09:35 AM

So for 10 the price goes from $46 to $42 for a book. And shipping goes from $23 to $13.30 for a total savings of...$13.70 per book. So is it worth it to have someone send $533 and then have the responsibility to break it down when they get it an repackage and ship? And with that reship price added it will be a savings of maybe 5 - 8 bucks.
Hes really right in 'needing someone in the US'. If I had $1000 laying around lol, an even then I'd only have a couple extra left, which might not be a bad idea considering how hard this stuff is to come by after a few years.
I'd like to help an take this on but can't afford it so I will still be getting one and only one on my own...thats my story an I'm stickin' to it lol.
Brian, your awesome for checking on this for the group though!!!
My head hurts now too lol. Can't wait to see the book! The Dick Dale book looks groovy too.
Good weekend

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Brian

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Posted on Sep 23 2006 10:59 AM

I'm coming to the same conclusion. The only real way to make this work is if a whole bunch of California people could just hand deliver copies to each other the next time they see each other at a show. Otherwise we may just be better off ordering separately. Thoughts?

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Jon

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Posted on Sep 23 2006 11:18 AM

I think we should just get them separately. Unless, that is, the California crowd wants to do their own thing like you suggested. I might order mine today.

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bigtikidude

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Posted on Sep 23 2006 01:24 PM

Im a bit lost on how many books he actually published?
I really cant afford one right now, but at the same time I do want to make sure I do get one.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

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WR

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Posted on Sep 29 2006 03:53 AM

Just as I was about to order McPharland's book, I saw Dalley's book available at amazon for below what I had in mind as max price ... So I ordered Dalley's... still for WAY too much. ... though it's actually the same as what McPharlands book would cost me, with the shipping and all I will get McPharlands next month, probably.

WR

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Double-Crown-Records

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Posted on Sep 29 2006 10:03 AM

Yeah, I tried a week or two ago to see if it's something I could possibly carry in the Double Crown catalog, but the discount wasn't big enough to make it worthwhile. I'd actually have to charge more, and I just don't know how big of a market there is for a $50-70 surf music book.

Sean
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Brian

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Posted on Oct 14 2006 12:38 PM

I got mine today!!!

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bigtikidude

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Posted on Oct 14 2006 01:52 PM

and how is it, what do you think of it???

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Brian

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Posted on Oct 14 2006 03:44 PM

I haven't had a chance to do anything more than thumb through it, but it is indeed quite impressive. I will have a lot of reading to do. Nice center section of color photos of album covers, and lots of b&w photos throughout. It does indeed have a different scope and purpose than the Bob Dalley book. This book has more of a high level feel to it, while Bob's just drills into all the bands he could think of. Lots of good reading in here I think. I will write some more after I've started in on it. At first glance, it's a big :thumbs-up:.

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bigtikidude

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Posted on Oct 14 2006 03:58 PM

cool, thanks Brian,
now I just need to scrape up the $$$ to get it.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

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Jon

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Posted on Oct 15 2006 01:31 PM

Same here. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it, Brian.

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Klas

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Posted on Oct 16 2006 09:03 AM

I'm also interested to hear more about the book. I opted for surface shipping and I'll probably have to wait several more weeks before my copy arrives.

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Klas

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Posted on Dec 01 2006 02:25 PM

I finally got my book today (surface shipping took 10 weeks). Definitely looks like great stuff for anyone interested in the original surf/hot rod music era.

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badash Joined: Aug 18, 2006 Posts: 1732	Posted on Sep 22 2006 08:50 AM I'll take number 9. I didn't pipe up earlier cuz I thought the idea died. But I'll definitely take #9 although I hate to see you go to all that trouble, but if you're determined to do it anyway... Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Sep 22 2006 09:48 AM No one has posted any hard numbers yet, although a few people seem to know them. I will go off and ask what they can do for us and then we can decide if it is worth it to go in together or just do it all as individuals. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
outsides Joined: Jul 08, 2006 Posts: 460 NorCal	Posted on Sep 22 2006 09:49 AM me too, if it's gonna happen. I'm definitely interested. -outsides Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Sep 22 2006 10:38 PM This is making my head hurt. But here are the options: Stephen McParland Hi Brian, Thanks for your help in promoting the book so far. Unfortunately, the book is not mass produced - none of my books are. I simply don't have the room to store hundreds of books and keep everything available (over 20 titles). The saving would be in the postage as postage costs here are outrageous. Also, bear in mind that each copy weighs in at 1.2 kilos! My fault for making the book so indepth - as always. For 10 copies or more, I can drop the price per book to $42. However, the big saving is in the postage. For 10 books $133 for Airmail (1-2 weeks) - (13.30 per book instead of $23!) $75 for Seamail (6-12 weeks) - (7.50 per book) I would advise insuring these shipments. Add $8 for insurance. 17 is the maximum number I can send via the post office (limit of 20kilos). For 17 books $213 for Airmail (12.50 per book) $121 for Seamail (7.10 per book) Again, insurance is advised. Same of $8 - it's just so they can be tracked. As you can see, there's not such a big saving on getting 17 instead of 10. I can send them FEDEX in a 25 Kilo box (22 books). Last price I had from them (without knowing your zipcode) was $208. (that's 9.45 per book). Fed-Ex is door to door. Anyway, thanks for the enquiry and sorry I can't provide the books at a better price. What I really need is a publisher (or someone) in the US !!! SJ — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Chopper Joined: Jul 13, 2006 Posts: 271 Pennsylvania	Posted on Sep 23 2006 09:35 AM So for 10 the price goes from $46 to $42 for a book. And shipping goes from $23 to $13.30 for a total savings of...$13.70 per book. So is it worth it to have someone send $533 and then have the responsibility to break it down when they get it an repackage and ship? And with that reship price added it will be a savings of maybe 5 - 8 bucks. Hes really right in 'needing someone in the US'. If I had $1000 laying around lol, an even then I'd only have a couple extra left, which might not be a bad idea considering how hard this stuff is to come by after a few years. I'd like to help an take this on but can't afford it so I will still be getting one and only one on my own...thats my story an I'm stickin' to it lol. Brian, your awesome for checking on this for the group though!!! My head hurts now too lol. Can't wait to see the book! The Dick Dale book looks groovy too. Good weekend Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Sep 23 2006 10:59 AM I'm coming to the same conclusion. The only real way to make this work is if a whole bunch of California people could just hand deliver copies to each other the next time they see each other at a show. Otherwise we may just be better off ordering separately. Thoughts? — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
Jon Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 1076 Columbus, OH	Posted on Sep 23 2006 11:18 AM I think we should just get them separately. Unless, that is, the California crowd wants to do their own thing like you suggested. I might order mine today. Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25646 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Sep 23 2006 01:24 PM Im a bit lost on how many books he actually published? I really cant afford one right now, but at the same time I do want to make sure I do get one. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
WR Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands	Posted on Sep 29 2006 03:53 AM Just as I was about to order McPharland's book, I saw Dalley's book available at amazon for below what I had in mind as max price ... So I ordered Dalley's... still for WAY too much. ... though it's actually the same as what McPharlands book would cost me, with the shipping and all I will get McPharlands next month, probably. WR — Rules to live by #314: "When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is." https://www.facebook.com/The-Malbehavers-286429584796173/ Top
Double-Crown-Records Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1224	Posted on Sep 29 2006 10:03 AM Yeah, I tried a week or two ago to see if it's something I could possibly carry in the Double Crown catalog, but the discount wasn't big enough to make it worthwhile. I'd actually have to charge more, and I just don't know how big of a market there is for a $50-70 surf music book. Sean Double Crown Records — Sean Double Crown Records www.doublecrownrecords.com Surf CD's / Vinyl / Fanzines / DVD's Aloha Screwdriver - Lunar Wobble CD The Nebulas - Euphorion LP / CD Supertubos - The Fourth Drive CD Continental Magazine - Issue #38 w/17 Song CD Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Oct 14 2006 12:38 PM I got mine today!!! — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25646 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Oct 14 2006 01:52 PM and how is it, what do you think of it??? Jeff(btd) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19321 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on Oct 14 2006 03:44 PM I haven't had a chance to do anything more than thumb through it, but it is indeed quite impressive. I will have a lot of reading to do. Nice center section of color photos of album covers, and lots of b&w photos throughout. It does indeed have a different scope and purpose than the Bob Dalley book. This book has more of a high level feel to it, while Bob's just drills into all the bands he could think of. Lots of good reading in here I think. I will write some more after I've started in on it. At first glance, it's a big :thumbs-up:. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25646 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Oct 14 2006 03:58 PM cool, thanks Brian, now I just need to scrape up the $$$ to get it. Jeff(bigtikidude) — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
Jon Joined: Mar 15, 2006 Posts: 1076 Columbus, OH	Posted on Oct 15 2006 01:31 PM Same here. I'm interested to hear your thoughts on it, Brian. Top
Klas Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2309 Stockholm, Sweden	Posted on Oct 16 2006 09:03 AM I'm also interested to hear more about the book. I opted for surface shipping and I'll probably have to wait several more weeks before my copy arrives. — T H E ✠ S U R F I T E S Top
Klas Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 2309 Stockholm, Sweden	Posted on Dec 01 2006 02:25 PM I finally got my book today (surface shipping took 10 weeks). Definitely looks like great stuff for anyone interested in the original surf/hot rod music era. — T H E ✠ S U R F I T E S Top

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