Backing Track Makers?

gc24

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 09:32 AM

Anyone here interested in makeing a BT for me?

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crumble

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 10:44 AM

I can't help you a backing track but here's something that might help if you are covering a very old song.
If you haven't already, grab yourself a free copy of Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/

Some of the old stereo mixes panned guitar completely on one side.
I'm working on "Latina by the The Sentinals" which has guitar and clave on the left side channel, i just need the right channel only.

In the picture below i'm replacing the clave on the new left channel. I'm using the graphical wave spikes from the original track to aline some "one-shot" clave samples.

I'm using Emagic Logic Hit Kit sequencer (for win/mac) which i picked up dirt cheap at a sale, i've heard a moot it's a free and legal download now.

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gc24

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 10:51 AM

Thanks, but too tech for me. I like the song that you picked tough.

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ColtsSurf

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 10:56 AM

We're working on a CD that covers the classics, albeit with significant twists in leads and instrument variety. We're actually doing the last song today, followed by the mixing process. It's not definite, but we're probably going to have two disks, with the second one eliminating the main lead to form backing tracks.

Paul

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gc24

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 11:00 AM

Great, good luck.

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crumble

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 11:17 AM

ColtsSurf
We're working on a CD that covers the classics, albeit with significant twists in leads and instrument variety. We're actually doing the last song today, followed by the mixing process. It's not definite, but we're probably going to have two disks, with the second one eliminating the main lead to form backing tracks.

Paul

One of my surf cd's (Langhorns - Mission Exotica) is both audio and data.
If you play the CD on a computer you have access to a bunch of mp3 bonus tracks and pictures. How nice it would be if cd's included a few mp3 playalong tracks this way.

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ColtsSurf

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 11:56 AM

Crumble,

That's an interesting idea. One of the reasons that we are considering backing track versions of the songs is to form a component of Eddie's surf guitar music instruction module that he teaches. We have been struggling with the best form for those tracks. Thanks for the insight.

Paul

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crumble

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 12:48 PM

It's called "Enhanced CD".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_CD

Another surf band that used it was the Aqualads - Hotbox.
16 audio tracks and enough room for over a 100MB data files.

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Mel

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 01:53 PM

gc24
Anyone here interested in makeing a BT for me?

Martin Cilia has backing tracks available for his album Revenge Of The Surf Guitar.

http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/martincilia
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/martincilia2

But having people make the backing tracks for you, unless they have a recording setup and can take the time to do it, you're probably out of luck.

Sometimes you can find a MIDI track and strip out the lead parts and play along with those.

Mel

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crumble

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 02:49 PM

Here's a few Shadows backing tracks:
http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/bts/Shadows.htm
And also The Ventures:
http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/bts/Ventures.htm

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gc24

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 02:50 PM

Yea, thanks. I am sure someone out can do it, even if I have to for a song to be done.

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JakeDobner

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 02:54 PM

Why don't you make your own backing tracks?

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Rob_J

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 03:35 PM

Jake has the right idea, but making your own backing tracks is not easy and involves a lot of time. In the process of making your own bts, you will learn a lot - both what you CAN and cannot do.

If you're NOT "techie" though, it is probably not an option.

Unfortunately, a large number of the backing tracks that can be found online stem from midi files, and usually sound pretty horrible. There are a few that are suitable for practice purposes though.

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crumble

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Posted on Feb 06 2010 03:52 PM

If you have a Audigy sound card and load in some big soundfonts, some of those crappy midi tunes don't sound so bad at all.
In fact, i think there might be a software soundfont app that runs on any sound card.

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gc24

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Posted on Feb 07 2010 09:18 AM

Not looking to make my own BT, that's why I asked the question here.

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6V6

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Posted on Feb 11 2010 12:20 AM

Backing tracks can be fun, but my preference is to use a looper - the Boss RC2 in my case.

The RC2 has a decent surf beat drum track, in the tempo of your choosing, and allows you to play the progression, using guitar, bass, or keyboard (or all 3) and then solo to your heart's content. You can save a handful of your masterpieces, but I prefer to just enter a new backing track each time I play - doesn't take long and helps retain my memory of the song structure better.

It's a great educational unit - and the next best thing to playing with yourself (guess you can take that how you want to).

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gc24

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Posted on Feb 11 2010 08:56 AM

Thanks. Nice pedal.

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gc24 Joined: Jul 22, 2009 Posts: 202	Posted on Feb 06 2010 09:32 AM Anyone here interested in makeing a BT for me? Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Feb 06 2010 10:44 AM I can't help you a backing track but here's something that might help if you are covering a very old song. If you haven't already, grab yourself a free copy of Audacity: http://audacity.sourceforge.net/ Some of the old stereo mixes panned guitar completely on one side. I'm working on "Latina by the The Sentinals" which has guitar and clave on the left side channel, i just need the right channel only. In the picture below i'm replacing the clave on the new left channel. I'm using the graphical wave spikes from the original track to aline some "one-shot" clave samples. I'm using Emagic Logic Hit Kit sequencer (for win/mac) which i picked up dirt cheap at a sale, i've heard a moot it's a free and legal download now. Top
gc24 Joined: Jul 22, 2009 Posts: 202	Posted on Feb 06 2010 10:51 AM Thanks, but too tech for me. I like the song that you picked tough. Top
ColtsSurf Joined: Apr 03, 2008 Posts: 477	Posted on Feb 06 2010 10:56 AM We're working on a CD that covers the classics, albeit with significant twists in leads and instrument variety. We're actually doing the last song today, followed by the mixing process. It's not definite, but we're probably going to have two disks, with the second one eliminating the main lead to form backing tracks. Paul — Paul Top
gc24 Joined: Jul 22, 2009 Posts: 202	Posted on Feb 06 2010 11:00 AM Great, good luck. Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Feb 06 2010 11:17 AM ColtsSurf We're working on a CD that covers the classics, albeit with significant twists in leads and instrument variety. We're actually doing the last song today, followed by the mixing process. It's not definite, but we're probably going to have two disks, with the second one eliminating the main lead to form backing tracks. Paul One of my surf cd's (Langhorns - Mission Exotica) is both audio and data. If you play the CD on a computer you have access to a bunch of mp3 bonus tracks and pictures. How nice it would be if cd's included a few mp3 playalong tracks this way. Top
ColtsSurf Joined: Apr 03, 2008 Posts: 477	Posted on Feb 06 2010 11:56 AM Crumble, That's an interesting idea. One of the reasons that we are considering backing track versions of the songs is to form a component of Eddie's surf guitar music instruction module that he teaches. We have been struggling with the best form for those tracks. Thanks for the insight. Paul — Paul Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Feb 06 2010 12:48 PM It's called "Enhanced CD". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enhanced_CD Another surf band that used it was the Aqualads - Hotbox. 16 audio tracks and enough room for over a 100MB data files. Top
Mel Joined: Feb 25, 2008 Posts: 321 Canada's Wet Coast	Posted on Feb 06 2010 01:53 PM gc24 Anyone here interested in makeing a BT for me? Martin Cilia has backing tracks available for his album Revenge Of The Surf Guitar. http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/martincilia http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/martincilia2 But having people make the backing tracks for you, unless they have a recording setup and can take the time to do it, you're probably out of luck. Sometimes you can find a MIDI track and strip out the lead parts and play along with those. Mel — Mel Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Feb 06 2010 02:49 PM Here's a few Shadows backing tracks: http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/bts/Shadows.htm And also The Ventures: http://www.guitarbackingtrack.com/bts/Ventures.htm Top
gc24 Joined: Jul 22, 2009 Posts: 202	Posted on Feb 06 2010 02:50 PM Yea, thanks. I am sure someone out can do it, even if I have to for a song to be done. Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Feb 06 2010 02:54 PM Why don't you make your own backing tracks? Top
Rob_J Joined: Sep 29, 2007 Posts: 500 Sacto, CA	Posted on Feb 06 2010 03:35 PM Jake has the right idea, but making your own backing tracks is not easy and involves a lot of time. In the process of making your own bts, you will learn a lot - both what you CAN and cannot do. If you're NOT "techie" though, it is probably not an option. Unfortunately, a large number of the backing tracks that can be found online stem from midi files, and usually sound pretty horrible. There are a few that are suitable for practice purposes though. Top
crumble Joined: Sep 09, 2008 Posts: 3158 Guildford England	Posted on Feb 06 2010 03:52 PM If you have a Audigy sound card and load in some big soundfonts, some of those crappy midi tunes don't sound so bad at all. In fact, i think there might be a software soundfont app that runs on any sound card. Top
gc24 Joined: Jul 22, 2009 Posts: 202	Posted on Feb 07 2010 09:18 AM Not looking to make my own BT, that's why I asked the question here. Top
6V6 Joined: Nov 15, 2008 Posts: 284	Posted on Feb 11 2010 12:20 AM Backing tracks can be fun, but my preference is to use a looper - the Boss RC2 in my case. The RC2 has a decent surf beat drum track, in the tempo of your choosing, and allows you to play the progression, using guitar, bass, or keyboard (or all 3) and then solo to your heart's content. You can save a handful of your masterpieces, but I prefer to just enter a new backing track each time I play - doesn't take long and helps retain my memory of the song structure better. It's a great educational unit - and the next best thing to playing with yourself (guess you can take that how you want to). Top
gc24 Joined: Jul 22, 2009 Posts: 202	Posted on Feb 11 2010 08:56 AM Thanks. Nice pedal. Top

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