WaveOhhh
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
Posts: 236
Plantation, FL
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Posted on Jan 22 2010 06:33 AM
Anyone use a baritone guitar regularly for performance?
Do you prefer a 5th lower (ADGCEA) or a 4th lower (BEADF#B)?
I'm enjoying the new Danelectro Dead-On '67 (flat black) and like the 5th lower tuning because I can think of the note positions as if it was a regular tuned guitar but missing the "6th string". Also the 5th tuning is deeeep and thats cool.
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Jan 22 2010 11:24 AM
Good timing. My answer is NEITHER tuning. I prefer the original tunig of the Danelectro & Fender VI-E to E and octave lower than standard guitar. i am too old to re-learn stuff in a new position.
I've had an original Dano (actually one Steve Soest made from a vintage 4-string Dano) and a reissue "Baritone" which Steve assured me would handle E-E tuning with the right strings. Both are gone, although the original still resides nearby with my friend I sold it to.
Day before yesterday, I picked up a Gretsch Electromatic Baritone with a BIGSBY! It is tuned E-E. I'm recovering from a root canal & haven't been able to give it a real workout yet. I'll report back when I do.
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3797
North Atlantic
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Posted on Jan 22 2010 05:57 PM
I have a Danelectro Hodad Baritone that is tuned B to B. That guitar just seems to sound/play the best there. A to A just didn't have the "twang" I was looking for.
I used it pretty much exclusively on Urban Surf Kings gigs in 2009. We've recorded over a sets worth of material with the baritone as lead over the years ( 5 or 6 tunes from the Surf vs the Flying Saucers CD, Tombstone Swagge_r from _Bang Howdy Partner CD, and all 4 songs on the_ Ski School_ 7 inch). It sure turns a lot of people's heads when it starts up.
Our bass player uses a 5 string with a low B, so it makes sense on that level too.
Here's some clips:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EY-lINIqjQk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q6lxb-fWTE&feature=related
Rev
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kenposurf
Joined: Feb 23, 2007
Posts: 1650
Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Jan 22 2010 07:05 PM
Tried other tuning but not good for me ..B-B's the one
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3546
mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jan 23 2010 11:13 AM
I too am an E-E' six string bass tuning...the "baritone like" tones reside in the 5th-12th fret positions...
I do also like the sound of a B-B' tuned six string...
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4425
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 23 2010 11:29 PM
I just use a Bass VI tuned an octave below a standard guitar tuning.
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Paisley
Joined: Sep 15, 2008
Posts: 110
Melbourne, Australia
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Posted on Jan 24 2010 03:20 PM
I've got an original Dano baritone; tried both the B & A tunings at different times & it seems to play/sound happiest with the B tuning.
Also occasionally tune it to an open D (same as open G on guitar). Sounds massive; there's a lot of fun to be had there.
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WaveOhhh
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
Posts: 236
Plantation, FL
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Posted on Jan 25 2010 06:26 AM
Hmmm, B-B seems to be popular.
What didn't you like about the E-E tuning?
Where the strings too floppy, buzzing, hard to transpose?
I never was a master of the fretboard but playing the baritone has improved my fretboard note awareness on my regular guitars. The tele feels like a little toy after putting down the Dead-On '67.
— What day is Surf Rock's birthday? Looks like Surf Rock and I was born the same year. Maybe we are both Libras?
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4425
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 25 2010 09:27 AM
WaveOhhh
Hmmm, B-B seems to be popular.
What didn't you like about the E-E tuning?
Where the strings too floppy, buzzing, hard to transpose?
I never was a master of the fretboard but playing the baritone has improved my fretboard note awareness on my regular guitars. The tele feels like a little toy after putting down the Dead-On '67.
I used to have a Jaguar Baritone Custom with a 28.5" scale. Tuned E - E the low E string was almost useless because of low tension making it too easy to bend. That's why I sold it and got a Bass VI which seems to handle E - E much more effectively.
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When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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WaveOhhh
Joined: Apr 24, 2006
Posts: 236
Plantation, FL
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Posted on Jan 25 2010 09:44 AM
WaveOhhh
What didn't you like about the E-E tuning?
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I made a mistake before.
I meant to say: What problems developed from A-A tuning on a baritone.
Anyone playing the non-baritone Dead-On '67?
— What day is Surf Rock's birthday? Looks like Surf Rock and I was born the same year. Maybe we are both Libras?
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3797
North Atlantic
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Posted on Jan 25 2010 03:17 PM
I had no problems with the A-A tuning. I just like the sound of B-B better. Maybe its the string tension/ twang tone of that tuning with my Danelectro.
Rev
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DelBrent
Joined: Dec 10, 2008
Posts: 38
Long Beach, CA
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Posted on Feb 22 2010 02:14 PM
I also have one of the 30" scale Danelectro Innuendo baritones that Steve Soest designed, which I've been playing A-to-A. But I've recently thought about going E-to-E instead.
For anyone who has gone to an E-to-E tuning, do you have any recommendations on what strings or string gauges will or won't work? For instance, I see D'Addario makes Nickel Wound .024-.084 XL strings, in two different versions it calls "Jerry Jones Short Scale" and "Fender Electric Bass VI". I would presume the Bass VI strings would work, since this is a 30" scale instrument, and the Jerry Jones ones (which I think would fit a 27.5 scale) would be too short.
However, beyond that, will the Innuendo accommodate .024-.084, tension, nut and tuner wise?
Thanks,
Brent
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4425
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Feb 22 2010 02:33 PM
DelBrent
I also have one of the 30" scale Danelectro Innuendo baritones that Steve Soest designed, which I've been playing A-to-A. But I've recently thought about going E-to-E instead.
For anyone who has gone to an E-to-E tuning, do you have any recommendations on what strings or string gauges will or won't work? For instance, I see D'Addario makes Nickel Wound .024-.084 XL strings, in two different versions it calls "Jerry Jones Short Scale" and "Fender Electric Bass VI". I would presume the Bass VI strings would work, since this is a 30" scale instrument, and the Jerry Jones ones (which I think would fit a 27.5 scale) would be too short.
However, beyond that, will the Innuendo accommodate .024-.084, tension, nut and tuner wise?
Thanks,
Brent
If it will accept large ferrule strings I'd use the Fender Bass VI set.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Feb 22 2010 09:22 PM
I used the Jerry Jones on both of my Danos, and they worked great.
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ravcon
Joined: Feb 20, 2010
Posts: 727
Charlotte, NC
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Posted on Feb 22 2010 09:49 PM
My Dano Dead-On 67 is tuned to A, but I might like to try E one day possibly.
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manfromravcon.com
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