24" to 25.5" scale.

JakeDobner

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Posted on Nov 14 2006 10:39 PM

Sweet jesus this is hard. It doesn't help that my Jazzmaster's slots for the strings won't hold any thing but the low e string. Also, the "F" tuners won't take my low E or A string. But I can still get it string up.

The 25.5" scale is quite helpful to my slide playing though. I think George Harrison was on to something when he used that strat for slide guitar.

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WR

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Posted on Nov 15 2006 08:34 AM

where's the problem Jake? I remeber when I had an SGV I couldn't switch between my strat and that one. in fact I never agreed with the SGV at all, sold it for that reason alone. I figured it was the short scale, so I took a bit of a gamble when I got my jag. but the jag felt right and played like buttah from day one, and I find it easy to switch between the strat and the jag.

are you going to have the JM set up again?

WR

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JakeDobner

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Posted on Nov 15 2006 09:25 AM

Yeah, I'll have it set up.

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Posted on Nov 15 2006 04:59 PM

has anyone out there had trouble with their hands when switching between scale lengths??? sgs, pauls hell most gibsons==my hand no like!! strats. teles areno problem. i got a taylor baby m that is great, the hand is fine. still interested in a jag (mom surfings fault!) in spite of the short scale. just use to fenders i guess

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Posted on Nov 16 2006 06:35 PM

The reason I stayed away from Jaguars early on was because of the scale length. I mainly played Strats and Jazzmasters. the shortest scale I had was a Gretsch 6120. Had my bassist not bought a Jaguar I may still feel the same way.
I'd have more trouble with the closer string spacing on a Mosrite than a Jag's short scale.

There's a guitarist here in Chicago, Joel Patterson who plays with the Four Charms and I've seen him go from a longer scale Epiphone hollowbody to a Gibson Byrdland(which is a shorter scale than the Jaguar) and he sounds quite good on both, and he made it look effortless.
I've seen guys in bluegrass bands go from mandolin to guitar to banjo with no problem, and that stuff is more difficult than surf guitar. When you get down to it 24" to 25.5" is really nothing.

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JakeDobner

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Posted on Nov 16 2006 07:44 PM

BillAqua
The reason I stayed away from Jaguars early on was because of the scale length. I mainly played Strats and Jazzmasters. the shortest scale I had was a Gretsch 6120. Had my bassist not bought a Jaguar I may still feel the same way.
I'd have more trouble with the closer string spacing on a Mosrite than a Jag's short scale.

There's a guitarist here in Chicago, Joel Patterson who plays with the Four Charms and I've seen him go from a longer scale Epiphone hollowbody to a Gibson Byrdland(which is a shorter scale than the Jaguar) and he sounds quite good on both, and he made it look effortless.
I've seen guys in bluegrass bands go from mandolin to guitar to banjo with no problem, and that stuff is more difficult than surf guitar. When you get down to it 24" to 25.5" is really nothing.

I have no problem on 'ukulele but 24 to 25.5 kills me.

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BillAqua

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Posted on Nov 16 2006 07:50 PM

JakeDobner

BillAqua
The reason I stayed away from Jaguars early on was because of the scale length. I mainly played Strats and Jazzmasters. the shortest scale I had was a Gretsch 6120. Had my bassist not bought a Jaguar I may still feel the same way.
I'd have more trouble with the closer string spacing on a Mosrite than a Jag's short scale.

There's a guitarist here in Chicago, Joel Patterson who plays with the Four Charms and I've seen him go from a longer scale Epiphone hollowbody to a Gibson Byrdland(which is a shorter scale than the Jaguar) and he sounds quite good on both, and he made it look effortless.
I've seen guys in bluegrass bands go from mandolin to guitar to banjo with no problem, and that stuff is more difficult than surf guitar. When you get down to it 24" to 25.5" is really nothing.

I have no problem on 'ukulele but 24 to 25.5 kills me.

It's in your HEAD!

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JakeDobner

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Posted on Nov 16 2006 08:21 PM

And my finger that doesn't go sideways at all.

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Posted on Nov 17 2006 01:32 PM

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drpluto

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Posted on Nov 17 2006 09:52 PM

I remember reading a lot of stuff about scale length before I got my Cyclone 2. I've played 25.5 my whole life, and I tale ya, it makes little difference to me. And I can easily switch back and forth between the two.

Now, the SGV (Yamaha I assume) was a different story. I had one. Loved the sound, but frets are small compared to my Fenders, and I have pretty small fingers.

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DannySnyder

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Posted on Nov 18 2006 09:52 AM

I've had very little trouble switching from JM to Jag. Only on a couple songs where I have to move very quickly from one end of the neck to the other do I find the JM a little easier - bigger target.

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JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Nov 14 2006 10:39 PM Sweet jesus this is hard. It doesn't help that my Jazzmaster's slots for the strings won't hold any thing but the low e string. Also, the "F" tuners won't take my low E or A string. But I can still get it string up. The 25.5" scale is quite helpful to my slide playing though. I think George Harrison was on to something when he used that strat for slide guitar. Top
WR Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 3832 netherlands	Posted on Nov 15 2006 08:34 AM where's the problem Jake? I remeber when I had an SGV I couldn't switch between my strat and that one. in fact I never agreed with the SGV at all, sold it for that reason alone. I figured it was the short scale, so I took a bit of a gamble when I got my jag. but the jag felt right and played like buttah from day one, and I find it easy to switch between the strat and the jag. are you going to have the JM set up again? WR — Rules to live by #314: "When in Italy, if the menu says something's grilled, don't assume it is." https://www.facebook.com/The-Malbehavers-286429584796173/ Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Nov 15 2006 09:25 AM Yeah, I'll have it set up. Top
Anonymous Joined: Nov 10, 2000 Posts: -180	Posted on Nov 15 2006 04:59 PM has anyone out there had trouble with their hands when switching between scale lengths??? sgs, pauls hell most gibsons==my hand no like!! strats. teles areno problem. i got a taylor baby m that is great, the hand is fine. still interested in a jag (mom surfings fault!) in spite of the short scale. just use to fenders i guess Top
BillAqua Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1054 Chicago IL.	Posted on Nov 16 2006 06:35 PM The reason I stayed away from Jaguars early on was because of the scale length. I mainly played Strats and Jazzmasters. the shortest scale I had was a Gretsch 6120. Had my bassist not bought a Jaguar I may still feel the same way. I'd have more trouble with the closer string spacing on a Mosrite than a Jag's short scale. There's a guitarist here in Chicago, Joel Patterson who plays with the Four Charms and I've seen him go from a longer scale Epiphone hollowbody to a Gibson Byrdland(which is a shorter scale than the Jaguar) and he sounds quite good on both, and he made it look effortless. I've seen guys in bluegrass bands go from mandolin to guitar to banjo with no problem, and that stuff is more difficult than surf guitar. When you get down to it 24" to 25.5" is really nothing. — "as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there" https://www.facebook.com/reluctantaquanauts/ https://www.facebook.com/TheDragstripVipers/ Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Nov 16 2006 07:44 PM BillAqua The reason I stayed away from Jaguars early on was because of the scale length. I mainly played Strats and Jazzmasters. the shortest scale I had was a Gretsch 6120. Had my bassist not bought a Jaguar I may still feel the same way. I'd have more trouble with the closer string spacing on a Mosrite than a Jag's short scale. There's a guitarist here in Chicago, Joel Patterson who plays with the Four Charms and I've seen him go from a longer scale Epiphone hollowbody to a Gibson Byrdland(which is a shorter scale than the Jaguar) and he sounds quite good on both, and he made it look effortless. I've seen guys in bluegrass bands go from mandolin to guitar to banjo with no problem, and that stuff is more difficult than surf guitar. When you get down to it 24" to 25.5" is really nothing. I have no problem on 'ukulele but 24 to 25.5 kills me. Top
BillAqua Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 1054 Chicago IL.	Posted on Nov 16 2006 07:50 PM JakeDobner BillAqua The reason I stayed away from Jaguars early on was because of the scale length. I mainly played Strats and Jazzmasters. the shortest scale I had was a Gretsch 6120. Had my bassist not bought a Jaguar I may still feel the same way. I'd have more trouble with the closer string spacing on a Mosrite than a Jag's short scale. There's a guitarist here in Chicago, Joel Patterson who plays with the Four Charms and I've seen him go from a longer scale Epiphone hollowbody to a Gibson Byrdland(which is a shorter scale than the Jaguar) and he sounds quite good on both, and he made it look effortless. I've seen guys in bluegrass bands go from mandolin to guitar to banjo with no problem, and that stuff is more difficult than surf guitar. When you get down to it 24" to 25.5" is really nothing. I have no problem on 'ukulele but 24 to 25.5 kills me. It's in your HEAD! — "as he stepped into the stealthy night air... little did he know the fire escape was not there" https://www.facebook.com/reluctantaquanauts/ https://www.facebook.com/TheDragstripVipers/ Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Nov 16 2006 08:21 PM And my finger that doesn't go sideways at all. Top
badash Joined: Aug 18, 2006 Posts: 1732	Posted on Nov 17 2006 01:32 PM Up in Guiteaven, Django is saying "Pussy..." Top
drpluto Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 124	Posted on Nov 17 2006 09:52 PM I remember reading a lot of stuff about scale length before I got my Cyclone 2. I've played 25.5 my whole life, and I tale ya, it makes little difference to me. And I can easily switch back and forth between the two. Now, the SGV (Yamaha I assume) was a different story. I had one. Loved the sound, but frets are small compared to my Fenders, and I have pretty small fingers. Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11054 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Nov 18 2006 09:52 AM I've had very little trouble switching from JM to Jag. Only on a couple songs where I have to move very quickly from one end of the neck to the other do I find the JM a little easier - bigger target. — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top

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