Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1493
Redlands, CA
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Posted on Nov 10 2006 11:16 PM
I just have to tell you all.
My Gretsch 6120 Brian Setzer has been needing new strings. So I went over to the gear forum and read up on the opinions of the people posting in the strings thread. I digested what was posted and headed out to buy some flat wound strings for the Great pumpkin (the name I call my gretsch).
I bought some D'Addario 'Chromes' ECG24 High Finish Ribbon wound Jazz Light Gauge size .011-.050's.
I never belived that strings could make such a big difference in sound. I had a cheap set of ghs boomers size 8 on it before. (Just because I had them when I needed them).
I have to say that the Gretsch just sings with these new strings. I could hardly put it down to even eat!
Thanks to all here that invest your time and knowledge and contribute with your fine input.
Thanks
Joel
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SurfBandBill
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Posts: 1487
San Francisco
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 04:30 AM
Joel,
I'm planning on making the same swap (Chromes for Boomers) on my Sweptwing. I can only hope that will iron out the tonal issues I was having at Lava Rats practice the other day with that guitar.
Not to step on anyone's toes, but I personally think boomers are shite. I lump them in with Ernie Ball Slinkys as those cheap-o budget strings that everybody gets in the first two years of playing, then learns better.
~B~
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JoshHeartless
Joined: Jun 17, 2006
Posts: 1010
Bay City, Michigan
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 12:46 PM
I agree with that, I used ernie ball one time and one of the strings broke while I was tuning it up. After that I started using D'Addario, and I've been using them ever since.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 01:47 PM
SurfBandBill
Joel,
I'm planning on making the same swap (Chromes for Boomers) on my Sweptwing. I can only hope that will iron out the tonal issues I was having at Lava Rats practice the other day with that guitar.
Not to step on anyone's toes, but I personally think boomers are shite. I lump them in with Ernie Ball Slinkys as those cheap-o budget strings that everybody gets in the first two years of playing, then learns better.
~B~
They are awful strings. Rotosound or DRs for roundwound.
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Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1493
Redlands, CA
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 06:34 PM
SurfBandBill
I was getting a buzz on my 'D' (4) string and no matter how I adjusted the bridge height it seemed to buzz. So I got a magnifiying glass and took a good look at the bridge. It seems that the GHS Boomer 'D' stringwas freying and was way to small for the bridge notch. The new strings took care of the buzz and filled in the bridge notch well. I may even try the next step larger strings next time.
Thanks for the input.
Joel
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SurfBandBill
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Posts: 1487
San Francisco
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 07:08 PM
Any time man...
I will say I was a bit disillusioned today when I put my chromes on my Sweptwing, and my G began to unravel after a light tug (I always tug all my strings after putting them on and tuning up to best lock them into the tuning pegs).
Fortunately, I had a Markley plain .20 on hand that I was able to swap in, rather than having to break up another set.
~B~
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 07:11 PM
I lost my G from a set of chromes today. Unraveled at the bridge. I had that set on since July.
I put some Rotosound flats on my Jazzmaster today. I was reminded of how much I liked those strings. I had had the Rotosounds on one of my Jags when we were in the studio and I got a great sound.
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SurfBandBill
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Posts: 1487
San Francisco
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 07:21 PM
Damn Jake,
You had your G last 5 months, mine didn't last five minutes.
Luckyyyyyy.
~B~
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Joelman
Joined: Sep 07, 2006
Posts: 1493
Redlands, CA
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Posted on Nov 11 2006 11:49 PM
JakeDobner
Where do you get your Rotosounds at? What size do you use?
Damn this is turning into a string discussion isn't it?
SurfBandBill
Unwinding at the bridge!
I went and made a good inspection of mine after reading that! Mine look as smooth as a babys butt. The bridge on the gretsch isn't at a very sharp angle, so I wonder if your bridge is. I over tighten my strings after putting them on and then detune them for a short period. I have the Locking tunners so I'm not to worried about the strings slipping loose.
If you try the rotosounds let us know how they are settling in.
Thanks
Joel
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 12 2006 12:51 AM
juststrings.com I use .12s.
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Flowmaster_G
Joined: Nov 09, 2006
Posts: 140
Los Angeles, California
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Posted on Nov 12 2006 01:20 PM
I've been messin' with strings with my 1961 Gretsch 6120 and my P90-equiped guitars for years (Mosrite Excellent, '57 Guild CE-100D, A-RI JAzzmaster and an '89 Gibson LP Goldtop. ALso, a Dearmond MT-77 using dynasonic single coils).
P-90's and Filtertrons LOVE flatwound strings. That's a fact, especially with the slightly less "hot" pu's. This is my experience with flats:
- D'addarios: pure junk. They die within days and sound dull and muted compared to (music, please!!!) : Pyramid Gold strings.
Pyramids last for MONTHS without losing tone or brightness, and sound warm and truly "vintage" to call it something. My 6120 sounds REALLY grestchy with them. You Gretsch guys should check out the Gretschpages. Everyone there raves about Pyramids (made in Germany, expensive -$20+ a set) but last 4-6 months without degrading.
The trick with Pyramids is that they need to be broken-in. By the time your D'addario Chromes have lost their tone, my Pyramids just hit their stride
- Round-wounds: I have found that pure nickel strings work well in place of nickel flats like Pyramids. The best I have used and the only rounds I use (Mosrite, Goldtop, etc) are Gibson Vintage Reissue strings. You guys should seriously try them; they sound warm, never too bright or chimey.
I have never tried Rotosounds. I always knew them to be great bass strings, and I will give them a try.
I suppose the common denominator here is 100% nickel (no steel), and you can't just buy any of these strings in a shop. Online only at this point. The Gibson Vinatge Reissue (10's and 11's for me) used to sell over the counter at GC here in L.A. ($11/set) but no longer. I just bought on Ebay 11 sets of 11's for $4.00 a set, 1/3 of what they used to sell for in GC.
Pyramids: in USA, mail-order only, but trust me, they kill, destroy and bury D'addario chromies with their eyes closed. You will not regret it.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Nov 12 2006 02:06 PM
I play a Jaguar so I like my Chromes to go dead.
I don't think I'll ever put flatwounds on my 6118-120. The roundwounds sound special on them.
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SurfBandBill
Joined: Mar 15, 2006
Posts: 1487
San Francisco
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Posted on Nov 12 2006 04:45 PM
Joelman
SurfBandBill
Unwinding at the bridge!
I went and made a good inspection of mine after reading that! Mine look as smooth as a babys butt. The bridge on the gretsch isn't at a very sharp angle, so I wonder if your bridge is. I over tighten my strings after putting them on and then detune them for a short period. I have the Locking tunners so I'm not to worried about the strings slipping loose.
If you try the rotosounds let us know how they are settling in.
Thanks
Joel
Joel,
Mine was not a bridge issue -- I hadn't even played a note on the damn string yet, so it was just a faulty spring. Either way, the Sweptwing has a roller bridge, so there's no point where it can rub, it's a smooth rolling channel.
Almost all my guitars have old fashioned Kluson-style tuners, so there's no locking there. What I do is I wrap them on, tune up, play a few licks and all that, then give each string a little tug to help them settle in on the tuners. It happens every now and then that a string will snap, but I figure those strings would have snapped after playing for a bit anyways.
I will also second Jake's recommendation with juststrings.com - that's where I get all my strings nowadays. I use Roto 10s on my Mosrite, Chrome 10s on the Sweptwing, and Chrome 11s on all my Fenders.
~B~
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