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synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4467 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Nov 11 2009 09:48 PM shivers13 Ah, who cares about labels... after seeing this graph I would file them under: ALL THAT'S COOL UNDER THE SUN MUSIC! Good call! — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
BoardwalkerJeff Joined: Jan 24, 2008 Posts: 376 Santa Monica, Ca.	Posted on Nov 11 2009 09:59 PM Is it just me? "The Warmth of the Sun" is a freakin' amazine song. Makes me wish I had a girlfriend. Sort-of. Without the drama. — Jeff Utterback Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25620 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Nov 11 2009 10:14 PM BoardwalkerJeff Is it just me? "The Warmth of the Sun" is a freakin' amazine song. Makes me wish I had a girlfriend. Sort-of. Without the drama. ah Pooooor Jeff. — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
shivers13 Joined: Jul 29, 2009 Posts: 2605 Boss Angeles, CA	Posted on Nov 11 2009 10:20 PM BoardwalkerJeff Is it just me? "The Warmth of the Sun" is a freakin' amazine song. Makes me wish I had a girlfriend. Sort-of. Without the drama. Love "Warmth of the Sun"! That was written the day after Kennedy was assassinated as a tribute to him of sorts. No matter what.. you'll always have the warmth of the sun. — BOSS FINK "R.P.M." available now from DOUBLE CROWN RECORDS! www.facebook.com/BossFink www.doublecrownrecords.com Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4467 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Nov 11 2009 10:44 PM BoardwalkerJeff Is it just me? "The Warmth of the Sun" is a freakin' amazine song. Makes me wish I had a girlfriend. Sort-of. Without the drama. I was just thinking about that song today. I'm listening to it as I type. Brian Wilson is a fantastic composer, truly amazing. He took Rock 'n' Roll to a new level harmonically and Warmth of the Sun is one of the best examples of his work. OK, listening wasn't enough, I had to cop' the changes. C Am Eb Cm Dm7 sus4 G7 G7+ bridge A Maj7 Am7 D9 G Maj7 G7 G7+ Then the second time out of the bridge he modulates up a half-step. Holy Mackerel!!! I've never seen changes like these. I guess he must've gotten some great ideas when he was coppin' all those old four Freshmen tunes. I was messed up on a couple of chords. I think I have it right now. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Last edited: Nov 11, 2009 22:53:10 Top
shivers13 Joined: Jul 29, 2009 Posts: 2605 Boss Angeles, CA	Posted on Nov 11 2009 10:48 PM Indeed, Synchro. Brian was pushing the envelope musically. McCartney picked up on that and you know the rest. — BOSS FINK "R.P.M." available now from DOUBLE CROWN RECORDS! www.facebook.com/BossFink www.doublecrownrecords.com Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4467 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Nov 11 2009 10:54 PM shivers13 Indeed, Synchro. Brian was pushing the envelope musically. McCartney picked up on that and you know the rest. He definitely knew his stuff. A feller could study his music for years and never run out of new twists and turns to discover. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
WhorehayRFB Joined: Jun 12, 2008 Posts: 3331 Huntington Beach, CA	Posted on Nov 12 2009 12:00 AM synchro In my mind instrumental Surf Music was the music you'd hear at the beaches of So Cal but the Beach Boys were the artists that told us about So Cal in the first place. YES. BTW, I don't care if the Ventures aren't "surf." They sound surf to me. — Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. http://radiofreebakersfield.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636 http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm Top
bigtikidude Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25620 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.	Posted on Nov 12 2009 12:07 AM WhorehayRFB I don't care if the Ventures aren't "surf." They sound surf to me. who? — Jeff(bigtikidude) Top
BoardwalkerJeff Joined: Jan 24, 2008 Posts: 376 Santa Monica, Ca.	Posted on Nov 12 2009 12:09 AM synchro BoardwalkerJeff Is it just me? "The Warmth of the Sun" is a freakin' amazine song. Makes me wish I had a girlfriend. Sort-of. Without the drama. I was just thinking about that song today. I'm listening to it as I type. Brian Wilson is a fantastic composer, truly amazing. He took Rock 'n' Roll to a new level harmonically and Warmth of the Sun is one of the best examples of his work. OK, listening wasn't enough, I had to cop' the changes. C Am Eb Cm Dm7 sus4 G7 G7+ bridge A Maj7 Am7 D9 G Maj7 G7 G7+ Then the second time out of the bridge he modulates up a half-step. Holy Mackerel!!! I've never seen changes like these. I guess he must've gotten some great ideas when he was coppin' all those old four Freshmen tunes. I was messed up on a couple of chords. I think I have it right now. Surfer Girl also has a weird modulation. (Only vocally?) I think Brian wrote melodically and didn't care about the formula of the day. True genius. — Jeff Utterback Top
shivers13 Joined: Jul 29, 2009 Posts: 2605 Boss Angeles, CA	Posted on Nov 12 2009 12:27 AM BoardwalkerJeff Surfer Girl also has a weird modulation. (Only vocally?) I think Brian wrote melodically and didn't care about the formula of the day. True genius. Indeed, Jeff! Love 'em or hate 'em, Brian lived up to his label of genius. One of the most respected composer/performers of all time. — BOSS FINK "R.P.M." available now from DOUBLE CROWN RECORDS! www.facebook.com/BossFink www.doublecrownrecords.com Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Nov 12 2009 08:16 AM WhorehayRFB I don't care if the Ventures aren't "surf." They sound surf to me. I'm actually okay with this... The Ventures had as much to do with me getting into surf as Dick Dale. ONE OF THE BEST SURF BANDS EVER. — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
synchro Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4467 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.	Posted on Nov 12 2009 08:43 AM morphball WhorehayRFB I don't care if the Ventures aren't "surf." They sound surf to me. I'm actually okay with this... The Ventures had as much to do with me getting into surf as Dick Dale. ONE OF THE BEST SURF BANDS EVER. The Ventures were a huge part of the sonic landscape in the '60s. The Beatles changed things, there's no question about that, but other artists didn't all slink away (or start apeing the Beatles). The Ventures brought the clean guitar sound to a fairly wide audience for years after the first wave of Surf had ended. Maybe this music wasn't true Surf but it kept at least a vestige of the Surf sound alive. I love the Ventures music and always will. They, along with Chet Atkins were the first artists my father and I agreed upon. — The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Top
elreydlp Joined: Sep 04, 2009 Posts: 1800 Temecula, CA	Posted on Nov 12 2009 09:50 AM I'm actually okay with this... The Ventures had as much to do with me getting into surf as Dick Dale. ONE OF THE BEST SURF BANDS EVER. I'm with you Morphball. I grew up on the East Coast and didn't hear Dick Dale. I learned Surf from The Ventures, Surfaris, Chantays, and Astronauts. Top
websurfer Joined: May 14, 2007 Posts: 1753	Posted on Nov 12 2009 11:06 AM Huge Beach Boys fan here. "God Only Knows"--justifiably called a masterpiece...I love Carl's and Brian's voices on the ballads. Their voices had a haunting quality, especially in the upper registers. Really something special to me. Those are always my favorite BB songs. I guess Brian was like 23 when he wrote the Pet Sounds album. Unreal. I remember Carol Kaye (bassist on many sessions) saying what a total pro he was in the studio and a pleasure to work for--always knew what he wanted. Top
WhorehayRFB Joined: Jun 12, 2008 Posts: 3331 Huntington Beach, CA	Posted on Nov 12 2009 12:41 PM bigtikidude WhorehayRFB I don't care if the Ventures aren't "surf." They sound surf to me. who? Band from Belgium, I think. They like pizza. — Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. http://radiofreebakersfield.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636 http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Nov 12 2009 12:55 PM I really want some 'za now... Top
morphball Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC	Posted on Nov 12 2009 02:27 PM So do I, but I'm now allergic to pretty much every ingredient in a pizza. Sucks. — Mike http://www.youtube.com/morphballio Top
Tuck Joined: Sep 02, 2006 Posts: 3166 Denver, CO	Posted on Nov 12 2009 04:19 PM WhorehayRFB Band from Belgium, I think. They like pizza. You're thinking of the Vanduras. I'm pretty sure the Ventures weren't a surf band. My logic is that they would have to have gone to high school in the coastal areas of LA or OC to be a surf band. They didn't, so they must be a hodad band. Top
WhorehayRFB Joined: Jun 12, 2008 Posts: 3331 Huntington Beach, CA	Posted on Nov 12 2009 04:28 PM Tuck WhorehayRFB Band from Belgium, I think. They like pizza. You're thinking of the Vanduras. I'm pretty sure the Ventures weren't a surf band. My logic is that they would have to have gone to high school in the coastal areas of LA or OC to be a surf band. They didn't, so they must be a hodad band. Exactly, like Hawthorne, CA. Maybe Brian could set up Hodad Guitar 101? — Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. http://radiofreebakersfield.com http://www.facebook.com/pages/Radio-Free-Bakersfield/172410279636 http://www.sandiegojoe.com/rfb.htm Top

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