DeadRanchHands
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Posts: 1281
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Posted on Oct 15 2009 09:57 AM
And the finished product:
Well, not finished. Eventually I'll put some switches in that smaller six-sided plate. Right now it's just decoration. As is the far plate. I doubt I'll add actual controls to that one, as it'd require routing, and I just don't need that many switches.
— http://www.reverbnation.com/thedeadranchhands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEW74mHjQk
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DeadRanchHands
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Posts: 1281
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Posted on Oct 19 2009 09:06 AM
Clips below. The first three are with the Filtertron pickups. There's a couple of clips of the stock guitar below them as well. All recorded using Amplitube Fender. No real amps used, unfortunately.
http://www.soundclick.com/bands/default.cfm?bandID=501181&content=music
— http://www.reverbnation.com/thedeadranchhands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEW74mHjQk
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RecRoomSurfer
Joined: Sep 19, 2008
Posts: 206
Canada, eh?
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Posted on Oct 19 2009 03:10 PM
UmaFloresta
Clips below. The first three are with the Filtertron pickups. There's a couple of clips of the stock guitar below them as well.
Thanks for taking time the to make these clips. Compared to the stock guitar clips I hear a Gretschy sound. "Average Weekend" was a good choice for a demo, but I think "Morricone Surf" works the best.
I've shied away from solid body Gretschs because with mahogany bodies set necks and a roller bar Bigsby they seem to sound more Gibson than Fender.
What flavor of Filtertrons are you using? TV Jones? I see they are standard mount so I guess there is some wood under the pickguard to mount them to.
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DeadRanchHands
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Posts: 1281
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Posted on Oct 19 2009 03:24 PM
RecRoomSurfer
UmaFloresta
Clips below. The first three are with the Filtertron pickups. There's a couple of clips of the stock guitar below them as well.
Thanks for taking time the to make these clips. Compared to the stock guitar clips I hear a Gretschy sound. "Average Weekend" was a good choice for a demo, but I think "Morricone Surf" works the best.
I've shied away from solid body Gretschs because with mahogany bodies set necks and a roller bar Bigsby they seem to sound more Gibson than Fender.
What flavor of Filtertrons are you using? TV Jones? I see they are standard mount so I guess there is some wood under the pickguard to mount them to.
I'm just using stock Gretch Filtertrons. TV Jones would probably be better because apparently they're brighter sounding, but they're also $130 a pop.
The pickups are mounted on some heavy rubber strips that were under the pickguard - that's how the stock P90s were mounted, too.
The routing under there is one big swimming pool rout.
— http://www.reverbnation.com/thedeadranchhands
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jZEW74mHjQk
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BWORD
Joined: Jan 25, 2010
Posts: 3
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Posted on Jan 25 2010 02:48 PM
Hey guys,
I'm new here and have found this place in my quest for a jm40 jungle master. It appears that fret city is no longer carrying this model. They only have a few of the light blue in stock. I am trying to find a white/cream model with no luck so far. If any of you know where to find one it would be much appreciated. Or if any of you would like to part with yours let me know.
I will try to log on here to check for responses but feel free to email me at wordb@interstatewire . com
thanks guys
-brad
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GTHO
Joined: Apr 09, 2010
Posts: 30
Italy
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Posted on May 23 2014 10:52 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdJvk8KRg9Q
I may have posted this link in another thread by mistake.sorry
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Noel
Joined: Mar 15, 2011
Posts: 8528
Back in Piitsburgh, Pennsylvania, where I grew up.
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Posted on May 23 2014 10:58 AM
GTHO wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdJvk8KRg9Q
I may have posted this link in another thread by mistake.sorry
That's hot!
— This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4053
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on May 23 2014 11:37 AM
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james14000
Joined: Apr 14, 2015
Posts: 148
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Posted on Nov 24 2015 10:14 AM
surferXmatt wrote:
Yes - Tele with a Bigsby and Jazzmaster pickups would be heaven.
— https://www.youtube.com/user/jamess1400
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ProfessorLongboard
Joined: Feb 11, 2017
Posts: 2
Rouen, France
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Posted on Apr 13 2017 12:28 PM
Hi everybody. This is my first post here at SG101. Please forgive my approximate English.
I wanted to have an offset guitar and I was looking at this model since quite some time. I don’t have so much money to spend to buy a Jaguar or a Jazzmaster, even Squier models, and I am a bad player (but I try to improve). My aim in playing surf guitar is to have fun and learn something. I started music at 47 y/o with reggae/ska bass (I have a Squier VM Jaguar bass) and then I switched to surf guitar at 50, two years ago.
This guitar is one of the few Fender’s offsets Chinese copies with good press on the internet. The Jack and Danny’s JM10 is sold in Europe by Music Store, a German retailer at the price of 111€ shipping included (about a hundred and thirty USD, I guess). I ordered it with a lot of questions. Will it be looking nice, will it have a good sound, will I regret it ? I was delivered four days after having ordered.
First, it was looking good. The layout is a Strat one with three single coil pups but only two knobs, one tone and one volume. The “surf green” painting looks really 60’s, more green than surf I think, but it is OK. The pickguard is mint green and, like the Dude’s rug, it really ties the guitar together, really suits the body colour. The pups and knobs are aged yellow, but the vibrato arm button is white, what a pity... The neck is a maple one with 22 frets and normal scale. It’s looking nice for the price and it is very comfy for a guitar of that price, maybe a bit dry. The frets are OK, I didn’t hurt any finger. The headstock has an interesting design and looks like... a wave. I don’t know if it was done in purpose as the J&D “Strats” have the same ones. But I came to LOVE the headstock.
Then I plugged the thing. I passed through a FRV1 pedal (as I said, I don’t have so much money to spend, but any tank sent from anywhere would be accepted...) in a Mustang 1 V2. And, despite the strings, the guitar was sounding good with a lot of sustain and a “natural” reverb, a sharp sound with a lot of treble. I decided to put new strings with a bigger gauge (11-49 Fender’s). I adjusted the neck, action and harmonics. I didn’t have so much work. My problem was to adjust the vibrato which was too hard. I had to unscrew the comb and adjust the springs. But it is somehow better. I guess the new strings help.
I have been using it since two weeks. I play lead guitar only, I don’t know to play chords. With the FRV1, it sounds really like being back in time. It is as if the guitar was made to have a sound ready for surf music. Of course, it is a cheap guitar, but the pickups are quite good (I mean correct, without buzzing or humming). It stays in tune, even using the vibrato, it is fun to play with. It is like a strat in an offset body with a longer vibrato arm and only two knobs. A strange guitar but made in a Fender spirit (could be a pawn shop series, a mix of a Jaguar, a JM and a Strat...).
I think I will not change a lot of things, the vibrato of course, taint the neck with a vintage colour but that’s all. The tuners do the job. I’ll keep it in the way it was made, a kind of rustic instrument which would have been a dream for broke European musicians in the early sixties when everybody wanted to be the Shadows or the Spotnicks here in Europe.
If I compare with what I know (I own a MIM Strat and I borrow from time to time my son’s Squier Strat), I think the quality is in between. The guitar is well made and the sound is better than the Squier Strat, more musical, with more sustain. Of course, it is not as precise as the MIM, but I think it is good as a beginner’s stuff or as a second guitar one can take from home without fearing anything.
I think it is a serious good deal for anyone who would like a good base for improving it with his skills or to learn how to change capacitors, pups and so on...
If you want some pics, let me know.
Cowabunga !
— Prof. Longboard
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness". (Charles Bukowski)
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ProfessorLongboard
Joined: Feb 11, 2017
Posts: 2
Rouen, France
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Posted on Apr 13 2017 01:03 PM
a rough idea
THEE headstock shaped like a wave
— Prof. Longboard
"My ambition is handicapped by laziness". (Charles Bukowski)
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3806
North Atlantic
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Posted on Apr 13 2017 01:23 PM
It sounds like you have a winner there. For me, the price of the guitar doesn't matter as much as long as I find it comfortable to play (and stays in tune).
Nice find,
Rev
— Canadian Surf
http://www.urbansurfkings.com/
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LeeVanCleef
Joined: Oct 05, 2011
Posts: 744
France
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Posted on Apr 16 2017 01:19 PM
Hello ProfessorLongboard and welcome to SG101.
That's a nice guitar! I own the exact same model and I'm very happy with it. I was very surprised with how good it sounded, how well it played and how cool it looked, especially for such a low price.
I ended up replacing the neck, pickups and vibrato on mine with those from a very nice Squier Classic Vibe '50s Strat, but only because I had the Squier lying around unused; stock, the JM10 was pretty decent. Here's a picture from when I was working on the mod.
As for the vibrato arm tip, try this: first buff it lightly with a Scotchbrite pad. Then let it sit in a cup of very strong tea (at least 4 teabags, more is better) overnight. This trick gives great results with genuine Fender parts but it might not work if your tip is made with a different kind of plastic. Still, it's worth a try.
Have fun with your new guitar!
— Old punks never die... They just become surf rockers.
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Kid_Del_Air
Joined: Aug 17, 2023
Posts: 2
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Posted on Aug 17 2023 03:54 PM
I wish you sun, waves, and not a grain of sand inside your bathing suit, dear friends! I am new to this forum and must apologize to kick this old thread up. The reason I post here is that I am completely new to playing surf guitar, and I have the most stupid question for you experienced wave-dwellers.
Being an absolute beginner, it was the opening review by Rio that pulled me over the line to buy a J&D JM10. Very helpful review btw, thank you for that, good Sir!
So I had never before used a tremolo bar (virgin detected, fellas, please be gentle with me ). But I wonder: is it normal to be this stiff? I was surprised by the pressure I have to put onto it. When I see experienced players gently "wobbling" it; that's nearly impossible here.
It almost feels as if I'm going to break something, or is this just my inexperience?
Since I'm not a technical wizard like you guys (read as: hardly knows a screwdriver from a pair of scissors), I'm getting a bit scared when I read Thunderhead's post: "Upon disassembly I found the Trem would not function with the factory rout!!!! I took a Dremel and made the rout an 1/8th in. wider around the front and sides."
And this post was about the JM40; not even my humble JM10!
So, is my very first experience with surf guitars ending at the post office; return to sender? I'm sad to say I'm seriously considering it Or am I doing something wrong here?
Apologies for my - in your experienced eyes - undoubtedly stupid question
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Padraig
Joined: Feb 26, 2022
Posts: 411
Dollars, Taxes
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Posted on Aug 17 2023 08:08 PM
Hi Kid Del Air, welcome to SG101! You have come to the right place to learn surf guitar and learn about surf music in general.
— Patrick
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Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
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Posted on Aug 17 2023 08:23 PM
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simoncoil
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
Posts: 916
Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Aug 18 2023 02:33 AM
Kid_Del_Air wrote:
So I had never before used a tremolo bar (virgin detected, fellas, please be gentle with me ). But I wonder: is it normal to be this stiff? I was surprised by the pressure I have to put onto it. When I see experienced players gently "wobbling" it; that's nearly impossible here.
It almost feels as if I'm going to break something, or is this just my inexperience?
Welcome to the forum! From what I see in the pictures, the JM10 has a vintage style Strat tremolo, so there is a number of things, which you can check without too much effort to see whether everything is alright.
First, unscrew and remove the plate on the backside of the guitar, so you have access to the underside of the tremolo. When you push down the bar now, you should be able to see whether the block moves freely in the body's cavity or whether it rubs against it. If the latter is the case, I would opt for sending the guitar back, since the amount of work necessary to fix is a little too much for a guitar of this price class.
If the block moves freely, then the stiffness is just the result of the tension from the springs, which can be easily adjusted. Usually, you can lower the tension with the two screws holding the claw and the springs in place. (I once had a cheap Strat copy, where the claw was mounted in a way, which did not allow this, but that was the only guitar I ever saw with that problem.) Be aware that changing the tension of the springs will affect the tuning of the guitar since there has t be a balance in tension between springs and strings. My approach would be to loosen the springs a bit, then retune and check whether I like the action and repeat if necessary.
That Pedal Show recently made a video about the different ways of setting up Strat tremolos, which should be helpful.
— Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!
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Kid_Del_Air
Joined: Aug 17, 2023
Posts: 2
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Posted on Aug 18 2023 06:33 PM
Thank you for your warm and quick welcome, gentle six-stringed souls! You know, Tqi, I had been wondering what mischief you guys were up to after enough of the magic potion...
Simoncoil; a very clear explanation! As a true beginner; I appreciate that.
I will also be looking at that video as quickly as possible; thank you!
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simoncoil
Joined: Sep 28, 2012
Posts: 916
Berlin, Germany
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Posted on Aug 19 2023 03:58 AM
One thing I forgot: If the system is equipped with five springs you can also try to remove two of them to achieve a moer drastic change in flexibility. (Usually it's numbers 2 and 4.) And of course, there are also springs with different strenghts available als replacement parts...
— Los Apollos - cinematic surf music trio (Berlin)
"Postcards from the Scrapyard" Vol. 1, 2 & 3 NOW available on various platforms!
"Chaos at the Lobster Lounge" available as LP and download on Surf Cookie Records!
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