Springo_Starr
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Posted on Sep 13 2009 12:04 PM
The King Kongs are playing Tiomnaya Noch':
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9tYwwyIkDs
original you can see here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xknq6Nw1m4Q
few weeks ago i've got v/a Board Boogie with stuff from lost and found bands from Australia, and there is version of this song, it's called Prairie and is performed by The Nocturnes.
first time i was shocked, 'cause all my life i thought that it's russian song! But it seems it's still russian song. Movie with it was issued in 1943.
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Tuck
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Posted on Sep 13 2009 11:29 PM
Thanks for the links and discussion Springo! That was interesting in more ways than one. That's a nice song. Nice to see a sax player in the lineup, too!
The Ace CD Board Boogie is discussed at http://www.acerecords.co.uk/content.php?page_id=59&release=1502, if people are interested.
Presumably the song circulated outside of Russia and the Nocturnes did the usual thing and renamed it when they borrowed it. I was a bit confused by two things. One was the existance of an unrelated California group of the same name as the Nocturnes.
The other thing was the combination of the prairie reference with tiomnaya or tyomnaya 'dark' which is coincidentally a Dakota Sioux word. Normally it would be spelled thiyomnaya (with a raised n or something after the last a, because everything after the earlier mn is nasalized). It means 'to gather stuff into the house'.
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Springo_Starr
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Posted on Sep 14 2009 05:52 AM
thanks for kind words, Tuck!
yeah, that's this cd. In liner notes to this compilation is some info about aussie Nocturnes, they was a big stars in Australia but under another name (don't remember it now, but i can to call it, when i'll back home). The most strange thing Prairie from this cd has some other non-russian credits. Anyway that's enough amazing to my mind that there is some aussie version of russian song... Usually such stuff are made by some japanese or some east european bands-)
regarding word tiomnaya, i guess, that's only coincidence-)
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Tuck
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Posted on Sep 14 2009 09:16 AM
Springo_Starr
In liner notes to this compilation is some info about aussie Nocturnes, ... The most strange thing Prairie from this cd has some other non-russian credits. Anyway that's enough amazing to my mind that there is some aussie version of russian song... Usually such stuff are made by some japanese or some east european bands-)
The www.allmusic.com site credits Prairie to Laurie Twig. He (probably, assuming Laurie = Laurence) would be the person who claimed (or at least received) credit for the song in the new title, presumably a member of the Nocturnes or someone associated with the recording process for the band. It's also possible they encountered the song already retitled from a source we don't know. AllMusic only reports the song's Nocturnes version, because it was registered in connection with the Ace release. AllMusic is not at all complete or reliable for earlier periods or music from outside the US (or maybe it's more general to English-speaking countries). The name "AllMusic" is a bit of an oversell.
Undoubtedly it's the Russian song, of course. It's just been "borrowed." Russian songs of this vintage circulate pretty widely. AllMusic lists some versions of Dark Night, but none earlier than the late 1980s. The listing is confounded with lots of other songs of the same name. It also lists Tiomnaia Noch, credited to Agatov, V./Bogoslovsky, N. on an album Where Are You, My Brothers, sung by Dimitri Hvorostovsky.
The other thing was just a strange coincidence that puzzled me at first.
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Tuck
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Posted on Sep 14 2009 09:27 AM
See http://www.vor.ru/culture/cultarch323_eng.html for some of the history of the song in Russia.
As for how "Tiomnaia Noch" a/k/a "Dark Night" a/k/a "Dark Is the Night" got to Australia, how about this:
http://www.cduniverse.com/search/xx/music/pid/1905816/a/Russian+Romance+%2F+Breiner,+Nishizaki,+Queensland+So.htm
This CD "Russian Romance" includes "Dark Is the Night," which may have been a part of the Queensland Symphony Orchestra (apparently a "pops" orchestra) repertoire for along time.
http://www.cduniverse.com/classical.asp?ensemble=Queensland+Symphony+Orchestra&exact=1
The Queensland Symphony Orchestra was formed in 1947 and is now a major part of the musical life in the south of Australia. It forms part of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation, and provides the orchestra for opera and ballet productions. It has a regular subscription series of concerts, and has made a number of recordings, including one of Naxos's best selling discs, the complete Dances of Sir Malcolm Arnold, which the Gramophone described as "playing of spirited spontaneity".
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Springo_Starr
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Posted on Sep 17 2009 01:35 AM
wow, man! You've made real research! Thanks for interesting information-)
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