DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11046
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 18 2007 10:34 AM
vulture
I'm pretty new to the whole surf music thing and havent really learnt what the differences are and why the ventures arent surf but i should learn on that.
Vulture, go to:
http://www.reverbcentral.com/
click on 'articles' and then 'what is surf' to get the gospel from the man himself - Phil Dirt.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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eddiekatcher
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2773
Atlanta, GA
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Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:29 PM
Hey, Hey, I just figured this all out.......The real reason that you guys all hate those classic first wave tunes is that you're frankly damn jealous that you couldn't turn out a timeless masterpiece like Pipeline, Mr Moto, or Baja. Those pioneers (some only fifteen years old or so) had no one to listen to but the other surf bands playing in a garage down the street or at a high school dance. They brought the colors to the palette and we, forty plus years later are for the most part, still painting with them.
I for one respect and admire them all.
Respectfully,
Edward J Katcher, Old Dude
— Traditional........speak softly and play through a big blonde amp. Did I mention that I still like big blonde amps?
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skeeter
Joined: Feb 27, 2006
Posts: 2063
Virginia, USA
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Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:43 PM
eddiekatcher
Hey, Hey, I just figured this all out.......The real reason that you guys all hate those classic first wave tunes is that you're frankly damn jealous that you couldn't turn out a timeless masterpiece like Pipeline, Mr Moto, or Baja. Those pioneers (some only fifteen years old or so) had no one to listen to but the other surf bands playing in a garage down the street or at a high school dance. They brought the colors to the palette and we, forty plus years later are for the most part, still painting with them.
I for one respect and admire them all.
Respectfully,
Edward J Katcher, Old Dude
Well said Eddie!!
None of it's over rated, if anything it's all UNDER APPRECIATED.
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Atomic Mosquitos
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Brian
Joined: Feb 25, 2006
Posts: 19266
Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Jan 18 2007 01:12 PM
eddiekatcher
I for one respect and admire them all.
Edward J Katcher, Old Dude
 
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IronMaiden
Joined: Nov 02, 2006
Posts: 564
Virginia Beach
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Posted on Jan 18 2007 02:02 PM
Wipe out is too cliche' for me. (So is walk dont run)...Penetration by The Ventures Live in Japan is awesome and so is The Surfaris version. (Of course the Pyramid version is sweet too)
I love both the Lively Ones version of Surf Rider and the Ventures album version, All the Ventures live versions suck IMO because they speed it up. The best version is thier studio one, the interplay of the drums and the opening riff rules! We play the Ventures slow version, but if we had a saxamaphone player Id play the Lively Ones version.
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Haole-Jim
Joined: Jul 29, 2009
Posts: 97
central coast USA metro Chicago
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Posted on Aug 13 2009 09:50 PM
Please forgive, but the original "The Lonely Surfer" is just tooo orchestral and overproduced for these ears.
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DeadRanchHands
Joined: Apr 15, 2008
Posts: 1281
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Posted on Aug 13 2009 10:19 PM
Pretty much anything with overbearing sax solos gets skipped by me. Unfortunately they put it all over a lot of otherwise great songs.
</heresy>
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Nokie
Joined: Oct 06, 2008
Posts: 550
So Cal
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Posted on Aug 31 2009 02:58 PM
I didn't really get "Boss" by the Rumblers until I heard the Nightriders do it. I guess it needed the modern punch...otherwise it was a boring 1-4-5.
— "Hello Girls!"
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DNAdude
Joined: Aug 01, 2008
Posts: 404
North Carolina
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Posted on Aug 31 2009 03:33 PM
UmaFloresta
Pretty much anything with overbearing sax solos gets skipped by me. Unfortunately they put it all over a lot of otherwise great songs.
</heresy>
I have to admit to not being a big fan of sax in the surf. That's why I don't care so much for Surf Rider by The Lively Ones.
I like this though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0ekfPF4GL0
— Ralph
The Storm Surfers
Be at one with the universe. If you can't do that, at least be at one with your guitar.
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El-Salvaje
Joined: May 22, 2007
Posts: 73
berlin germany
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Posted on Aug 31 2009 04:46 PM
Borat would be proud of that version!
No, no...I mean really that guy is a master...quite kitsch, but cool in a way...
Sometimes Sax rules tho...
xxx
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Oct 02 2009 03:59 PM
Regarding Surfin' Bird/Pappa Ooma Mow Mow. The original was by The Rivingtons, not the Coasters. By the way they're described in their Wikipedia entry, they would fit right in with this group.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Rivingtons
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planish
Joined: Jan 09, 2008
Posts: 473
Sackville, New Brunswick
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Posted on Jan 08 2010 02:02 AM
LHR
For me it is "Miserlou". Why? Well, I have heard Dick Dale's version about a million times so that's not fun anymore.
If I had to make up a "Top 50" list, I'd put Miserlou somewhere in the 40s. Maybe not even in the top 50. It's okay, but that's about it.
OTOH, "Mar Gaya" sounds like it was made from the same ingredients, but has much more flavour to it. I put it in the top 10 or 15.
"Surfer Joe": without the word "surfer" in the title we wouldn't even be discussing it. Sounds too much like a poorly-done Buddy Holly pastiche.
"Bustin' Surfboards" and "Let's Go Trippin'": Both sound like a zillion other tunes to me. Yawn. Like a bunch of guys jamming on a tune they never rehearsed before.
"Pipeline": I rarely hear a version I don't like (but there are some). I can't get tired of it.
"Wipeout": I can't judge this fairly. I'm always reminded of one of the girls at my high school dancing to it at the sock hops, which gives it an advantage. She had some moves.
— I'm not a complete idiot. Some parts are missing.
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Jan 08 2010 02:16 PM
"There's a Dog Gone Ding in My Ding Dong Board" by the Surf Finks.
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JakeDobner
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 12159
Seattle
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Posted on Jan 08 2010 02:18 PM
I've chimed in already, and I shall again.
Wipe Out. Most overrated; 1.) It is a very popular song 2.) It is a terrible song.
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CaptainSpringfield
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 4387
Under the Sun
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Posted on Jan 08 2010 02:33 PM
planish
"Surfer Joe": without the word "surfer" in the title we wouldn't even be discussing it.
It's gets as much attention as it did/does because it was the B-side (and originally intended to be the A-side, IIRC) of "Wipe Out." If the Surfaris had recorded one of their other vocals instead that day, people probably would have been ranking on that one in this thread. (Especially if it was the Jim Fuller-sung rendition of "Hound Dog.")
— That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it.
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bmsurfcaster
Joined: Oct 29, 2009
Posts: 271
Dallas
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Posted on Jan 08 2010 02:47 PM
I think I am gonna go with Wipeout.
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TwangZombie
Joined: Jul 14, 2009
Posts: 28
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Posted on Jul 22 2010 05:35 AM
Ohh, I'm relieved. I though that something is wrong with me, for I can't stand Let's Go Trippin.
But I strongly oppose the negative comments on Pipeline, Surf Rider and Surfin Bird. They among my favorite classics. Maybe some dislike Surf Rider, because is a sax driven song, but I love sax and yes - Surfin Bird is not exactly a surf song, but it so crazy and energetic and punk.
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peterbright
Joined: Feb 10, 2012
Posts: 233
Near the Swamp In Louisiana
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Posted on Apr 17 2012 09:22 AM
Surfin Bird is not my cup of tea.
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vintagesurfdude
Joined: Nov 28, 2011
Posts: 795
Prescott Valley, AZ
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Posted on Apr 17 2012 09:58 AM
You know, most of these songs seem a bit lame just because the got played to death over the last 50 years. If you take them in context of the time, some of them still suck.... 
Seriously, the thing to take from these is that most of the bands mentioned started in a garage somewhere and were snapped up by a music industry that was just jumping on the band wagon. Things haven't changed much. The cool thing is that this genre has survived a very dramatic change in guitar based music over that time. Unlike the blues genre which was almost killed by metal players trying to apply that style to old blues tunes. (i.e. The L.A. Blues Authority)
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kenposurf
Joined: Feb 23, 2007
Posts: 1650
Santa Rosa, CA
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Posted on Apr 17 2012 10:02 AM
Not overrated..just overly popular,,Wipeout ..the Mustang Sally of surf music still very popular because it rocks..it's been said before but rock and roll is first and foremost dance music..and as much as we can appreciate all styles if the tune don't get ya movin......I'm all for taking the music somewhere new also..our last cd took several classics and drug them kicking and screaming into the 2000's...still appreciate the roots though
Take a listen/look at the Ventures in Japan video..Mel Taylor did some cool breaks on their version of Wipe Out....it's not our favorite song to perform but the audience enjoys it
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