danfergen
Joined: Jul 30, 2009
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Posted on Jul 30 2009 12:59 AM
I just acquired an old traynor yvm-1
just like this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp6bP7O83ao
I'm going to build a cab for it and im looking for a 15" speaker. I love surf guitar, reverb and fuzz! I will be using my ARVRI jazzmaster with this
I'm on budget any thing less than $130
here is what I'm looking at
http://www.thevintagesound.com/store/weber-15-california-ceramic-p-320.html
http://www.thevintagesound.com/store/weber-15-chicago-ceramic-p-321.html
What would you recommend on my budget?
The head is rated a 50 watts, what is the general rule with watts, should I get a 50 watt speaker or something higher?
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zak
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Posted on Jul 30 2009 01:10 AM
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davidphantomatic
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San Antone, TX
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Posted on Jul 30 2009 01:13 AM
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Mr_Reverb63
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San Pablo, CA
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Posted on Jul 30 2009 01:20 AM
yes i agree with Zak those speakers are very inexpensive and relieable. and they sound great! i have 2 12" Eminence Legends on my cab and i couldnt be happier.
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danfergen
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Posted on Jul 30 2009 01:53 AM
thanks, the speaker needs to be 4 ohms.
would an 80 watt speaker be fine? or should I look for a 100 watt. I read somewhere that if the speaker is rated to high you lose tone, is that true?
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estreet
Joined: Mar 17, 2007
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United Kingdom
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Posted on Jul 30 2009 04:20 AM
zak
That's 50 clean watts, maxed out it will be more. You'll likely blow a 50 watt speaker if you run the amp halfway up or higher.
Rule of thumb is double the wattage.
danfergen
would an 80 watt speaker be fine? or should I look for a 100 watt. I read somewhere that if the speaker is rated to high you lose tone, is that true?
I don't disagree with that rule of thumb as far as a Surf sound goes but I think whether or not you would be likely blow it or not probably depends on the speaker.
British amps have quite a long tradition of the speakers being rated at the same wattage as the output; from the four 25w Celestion Green-backs in the old Marshall 100w 4x12 (very few people used a twin-cab stack in pubs/clubs) to the 15w blue-backs fitted in AC30s and AC15s. Some 4xEL84 30w Boutique amps have a single Vintage 30 or (my favourite) the G12H. I've personally committed heinous sins of vastly overdriving Celestions on many occasions and got away with it for years. I sometimes drive my Crate Powerblock (150w) into a cab with 2 G12Hs (60w). Maybe other brands are not so happy with it.
It definitely does make a difference in sound - it's a question of what you want. I have a AC15 Hand-wired which has a 15w blue and I also have a cabinet with a 50w Celestion Goldback in it. The Goldback is supposed to exactly replicate the tone of the blueback only at a higher wattage. However there's a noticeable difference when you start pushing the amp a bit and the blue starts to exhibit a bit of speaker distortion - which I personally like - even for recording surf type sounds - and the Gold stays a lot tidier sounding. I think that's what you meant about 'losing tone' there's a warmth you get when the speaker is working a bit hard. Of course, you may not like it.
My personal opinion is that you will be quite safe with an 80w driver of most brands on a 50w amp. Especially so if you are using cleaner sounds and therefore not driving the amp super-hard. If it were a Celestion I would say there would be zero chance of blowing it. They don't make 80w speakers, but I'd warrant a pair of their 30w ones would go on forever at 50w.
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DannySnyder
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jul 30 2009 07:00 AM
I've got a 4ohm Weber Cali 15" in great condition for $60 plus shipping. Email me if interested.
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