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fender hotrod deluxe modified for surf?

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scenenada Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 50	Posted on May 09 2009 11:25 PM I just picked up a cool looking brown tolex fender hotrod deluxe limited edition. My jag sounds ok through it but I was wondering if the deluxe can be modified so that it has a better surf tone. Tube change? Reverb tank modification. If not, will adding an outboard reverb tank sound ok with the deluxe. I hope to find some solution cause the amp has great look. Yeah, Im superficial that way...ha Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on May 09 2009 11:44 PM The outboard reverb is going to sound much better for surf. You can replace the transformers which will improve the tone. Mercury Magnetics makes a set which you can buy to replace. I noticed a big difference in tone with a Deluxe Reverb Reissue that had Mercury Magnetics transformers put in. Tubes will make it sound better, but not a ton. The stock tubes do suck though. The Fender Groove tubes... yuck. Warning though, the Mercury transformers will probably cost more than you paid for the amp. Reverb isn't going to be improved much in a Hot Rod Deluxe since they use Solid State reverb. Not a terrible onboard reverb, but not great like some of the lower wattage fenders had. Top
scenenada Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 50	Posted on May 10 2009 12:01 AM I see....but you think playing through the outboard tank along with this deluxe will so alright? Really I just want drippy reverb and the tone a little less muddy and Im fine for the casual party jamming Im doing. I was hoping the on board reverb could be improved but I guess not huh. Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19351 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on May 10 2009 12:04 AM The outboard tank is what you need if you want to play surf. — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
scenenada Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 50	Posted on May 10 2009 12:06 AM Yeah I figured that but just trying to get some opinions from folks who might have tried this combination. Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on May 10 2009 12:16 AM scenenada I see....but you think playing through the outboard tank along with this deluxe will so alright?. Of course. I can't think of a situation where a reverb tank sounds bad infront of an amp(unless there are effects going). And you don't need to buy a outboard tank. If you play guitar well nobody will care what gear you are playing. Top
scenenada Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 50	Posted on May 10 2009 12:25 AM well thats true...Well what I have going with the jag and deluxe isnt bad just a little dry and muddy. Im in Dallas and no one carries a tank in their shop here so that I can experiment....unfortunately. thanks for your comments Top
Ruhar Joined: Jun 21, 2007 Posts: 3909 San Diego, CA	Posted on May 10 2009 10:41 AM JakeDobner And you don't need to buy a outboard tank. If you play guitar well nobody will care what gear you are playing. Best post ever in the gear forum! — Ryan The Secret Samurai Website The Secret Samurai on Facebook Top
Brian Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19351 Des Moines, Iowa, USA	Posted on May 10 2009 11:01 AM scenenada Yeah I figured that but just trying to get some opinions from folks who might have tried this combination. Your best bet is the outboard tank in combination with your amp for getting the surf sound. That change alone will get you there. You can then go back and change out the speaker, transformer, etc. all you want (if you really want to...or just get a better amp). — Site dude - S3 Agent #202 Need help with the site? SG101 FAQ - Send me a private message - Email me "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea Top
ccdsurf Joined: Apr 29, 2009 Posts: 67	Posted on May 10 2009 12:17 PM If you want an outboard, I may have a brown tolex one for cheap in July. A guy on the boards here may sell me his tweed one when he gets his new one... MAy as well keep them all in the family. PM me if you are intrigued, and as the summer comes I'll keep you posted if its all going down. Top
RecRoomSurfer Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Posts: 206 Canada, eh?	Posted on May 10 2009 02:22 PM scenenada ... and the tone a little less muddy I did this tone control mod on my Hot Rod Deluxe, it's easy and it's free! Helps clean up the muddy tone. Follow the link; TONE CONTROL MODIFICATION TO BETTER CONTROL BASS RESPONSE http://studentweb.eku.edu/justin_holton/jvmods.html#bass Top
RobbieReverb Joined: Feb 28, 2006 Posts: 2391 San Jose, Ca.	Posted on May 10 2009 05:40 PM 1 on adding an outboard tank. Unless you need more watts and clean headroom, the hot rod and outboard tank will get you the sound you want, or very very close to it. Bob — Bob Last edited: May 10, 2009 21:16:33 Top
scenenada Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 50	Posted on May 10 2009 09:07 PM sweet advice...one mod and one tank and its surf city...hopefully. many thanks Top
Joelman Joined: Sep 07, 2006 Posts: 1506 Redlands, CA	Posted on May 10 2009 11:21 PM I have a HRD amp that I use alone sometimes. Usually I play double amps hooked together after the tank,(hot rod deluxe & Deluxe reverb amp) But I think the HRD can sound just fine with the tank hooked up. Although the HRD isn't the sound you hear many times on surf albums, so what! If the HRD is what you have play it. Modify it if you want. but just remember that it just will sound like a HRD modified, not a Showman. Top
Doctor_Morbius Joined: Oct 26, 2008 Posts: 608 This Planet Earth	Posted on May 11 2009 12:19 AM RecRoomSurfer scenenada ... and the tone a little less muddy I did this tone control mod on my Hot Rod Deluxe, it's easy and it's free! Helps clean up the muddy tone. Follow the link; TONE CONTROL MODIFICATION TO BETTER CONTROL BASS RESPONSE http://studentweb.eku.edu/justin_holton/jvmods.html#bass You should link him to that clip you made with your modded HRD. I thought that sounded great. — Cats 'n' Strats, 'cause that's how I roll - I eat reverb for breakfast! Fenderus Collecticus Strat Blender Pot Modification HERE Top
scenenada Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 50	Posted on May 11 2009 07:40 AM I would like to hear that...is that a different clip than the sound clips already on that site? Top
RecRoomSurfer Joined: Sep 19, 2008 Posts: 206 Canada, eh?	Posted on May 11 2009 12:01 PM Doctor_Morbius RecRoomSurfer scenenada ... and the tone a little less muddy I did this tone control mod on my Hot Rod Deluxe, it's easy and it's free! Helps clean up the muddy tone. Follow the link; TONE CONTROL MODIFICATION TO BETTER CONTROL BASS RESPONSE http://studentweb.eku.edu/justin_holton/jvmods.html#bass You should link him to that clip you made with your modded HRD. I thought that sounded great. You mean the clip on this topic? http://www.surfguitar101.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7340&highlight=hot+rod+deluxe Top
Doctor_Morbius Joined: Oct 26, 2008 Posts: 608 This Planet Earth	Posted on May 11 2009 12:02 PM scenenada I would like to hear that...is that a different clip than the sound clips already on that site? Yes it is. It's in this part of the forum. Let me see if I can dig it up. EDIT: It was burried a few pages back but here's the mp3 clip RecRoomSurfer put together... http://home.cogeco.ca/~recroomsurfer/recroomsurfer.mp3 And here's the thread on how he modded his HRD to make it more Surfy... http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=7340&highlight=hot+rod+deluxe — Cats 'n' Strats, 'cause that's how I roll - I eat reverb for breakfast! Fenderus Collecticus Strat Blender Pot Modification HERE Top
scenenada Joined: Jan 10, 2009 Posts: 50	Posted on May 11 2009 08:56 PM Ok...I got it. Sounds pretty good Recroom. Was that "full tank" as wet as it would go or somewhere in the middle? If you have a clip with the tank all the way soaking wet I would love to hear that. At any rate I got a lot out of your post, Ill hit my local amp tech up for those changes. thanks again yall Top

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