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What 3rd Wave surf songs should be standards?
Joined: Jun 12, 2008 Posts: 3331 Huntington Beach, CA 
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Posted on Apr 21 2009 06:17 PM
First tune that came to mind is "Ghastly Stomp" by the Gaslee Wuns. —Radio Free Bakersfield--60 Minutes of TWANG, CRUNCH, OOMPH. |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25600 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Apr 21 2009 10:45 PM
I call dibs on the Gassy ones. Jeff(bigtikidude) |
Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 885 Indianapolis, In
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Posted on Apr 21 2009 11:14 PM
I think Tomorrowmen,and Frankie & the Poolboys belong in the 4th wave or something.Correct me if I'm wrong people. —Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25600 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Apr 21 2009 11:17 PM
all depends if you think there is a 4th wave or not. I think its just the 3rd wave on a 2nd wind. Jeff(bigtikidude) |
Joined: Mar 16, 2007 Posts: 1342 Ft. Lauderdale, Florida
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 08:03 AM
Ya know... I thought about that. Seriously. I would consider those 4th wave if a 4th wave exists. Perhaps that should be a new poll? |
Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11058 Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 08:15 AM
If you'd like to discuss 4th waves further, here's the thread: http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2950&start=0 Frank thanks for putting us on your list, we're honored to be included. —Danny Snyder Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF |
Joined: Aug 13, 2007 Posts: 409
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 08:27 AM
so technically, would that be a 2nd or 3rd harmonic and the 4th wave would be an octave? — |
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Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 885 Indianapolis, In
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 11:12 AM
My statement still stands.I think the 4th wave is amongst us.I mean no disrespect to Frankie and the Poolboys,or the Tomorrowmen.The bands today have a different sound than classic 3rd wavers like Man Or Astroman,Impala,Satan's Pilgrims,Phantom Surfers,Galaxy Trio,Bomboras,or the Fathoms.I just think a line should be made some where. —Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 11:35 AM
..well...we are now in the 21st century...i believe you can make a decent argument for the existence of a 4th wave... |
Joined: May 16, 2008 Posts: 123 |
Posted on Apr 22 2009 12:30 PM
4th wave! hell i don't even get how there is a 3rd wave. The way i see it there was a 1st wave and then a long 2nd wave. |
Joined: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 42 |
Posted on Apr 22 2009 01:17 PM
"Fathomless" by the Fathoms. |
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Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 25600 Anaheim(So.Cal.)U.S.A.
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 01:26 PM
bahhh toooo much reverb. Jeff(bigtikidude) |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 10331 southern Michigan
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 01:34 PM
It seems like as soon as people think of the defining reverb of the '90s, that's the song they think of. And here's a funny story related to it. I think the main reason why the reverb on that song sounds so big is not that it's cranked up all that high, but rather that the recording is highly compressed. I spoke to Frankie about this and he and the band were very upset about the mastering job done by the label AVI on the "Fathomless" CD. Frankie felt that the CD was far too compressed and had no life, no breathing room. They worked closely with the mastering guy (in fact, Bruce Kane in Virginia who produced, engineered and mastered the Space Cossacks recordings - and has been mastering the Madeira recordings) to make sure that didn't happen again on their second CD (Overboard). I think Overboard does sound better, but the downside is that the reverb doesn't 'pop' nearly as much as on the first CD. So, there you go, another case of the artist being unhappy about something that the audience absolutely loves. —Ivan |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 01:43 PM
Damn fine information. |
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Joined: Oct 09, 2008 Posts: 42 |
Posted on Apr 22 2009 01:59 PM
Ivan, Thanks for the great information. God how I wish a book would come out on Modern surf music, from the late '70s to the present. The subject needs a lot more room that the measly two chapters Domenic and I provided in "Pop Surf Culture." There are just so many dynamic musicians and diversity of ideas. |
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Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 885 Indianapolis, In
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 02:44 PM
You can't be that clueless are you? —Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19305 Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 03:22 PM
Please don't insult other people. One of the people who feels this way is John Blair himself. While you may not agree with him, I wouldn't call John Blair "clueless". —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
Joined: May 17, 2006 Posts: 657 Buenos Aires 
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 03:38 PM
Fathomless = best reverb EVER —El Papu & los Fantasticos Reverberantes |
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Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 03:50 PM
Another way to say what you said would be to lay out your argument and then ask him for his reasoning for why there was no 3rd or 4th wave. |
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Joined: Jan 23, 2007 Posts: 885 Indianapolis, In
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 03:55 PM
Whatever dude! —Reverb, It's A Way Of Life! |
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