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Permalink Anyone ever play or own a Fender Bass VI!?

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Man, that looks like one bitchin guitar/bass to me. Cool Too bad the reissues are VERY expensive. Anyone here play one? How's it play and sound? How 'bout the more modestly priced Baritone Jag?

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i have only played the danelectro bass 6:

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twangy!

Haha, I knew you'd be mentioning your dano! Is it possible to play chords and other guitar-esque maneuvers on it? Was there ever a Longhorn 6-string Bass? I thought I heard about that somewhere...

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One thing to be careful about -- six-string basses are NOT the same as baritone guitars. I play a Dano Baritone, but have never laid hands on a Bass VI.

The essential difference is string gauge and scale length, along with the fact that Baritones are tuned down to B, while Bass VIs are down a whole octave.

That's right, yes?

~B~

Wraydar
Haha, I knew you'd be mentioning your dano! Is it possible to play chords and other guitar-esque maneuvers on it? Was there ever a Longhorn 6-string Bass? I thought I heard about that somewhere...

There's a picture of a Danelectro Longhorn 6-string bass in the fold out card/cover of my Lost Legends of Surf Guitar I: Point Panic that I ordered from Amazon. There's also a picture of something called a Fender Marauder next to Fender Jaguars. Call me crazy, but I thought only Mercury had made Marauders? Wink

Matt

Fast Cars & Loud Guitars!

Matt,
Marauders were prototype guitars. I think I remember reading that there were at total of 8 that were actually made -- there were some where the pickups were actually underneath the pickguard, and another type which had three pickups, plus a bunch of silly switches and knobs.

They were intended to be a hybrid of a Strat and a Jaguar.

~B~

Oh, so the Bass VI is really a bass with 2 more strings and not half guitar? Is the Baritone Jaguar the same (I think it has the same string gauges)?

Never heard of the Fender Marauder before. What an odd guitar.

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Wraydar
...Is it possible to play chords and other guitar-esque maneuvers on it? Was there ever a Longhorn 6-string Bass? I thought I heard about that somewhere...

wraydar:

yeah, i'm a big fan of the danelectro bass 6!

it is possible to play chords and intervals and other guitar-like stuff on the DanoBass6...but, it definately is not a Barritone Guitar...

it's tuned just like a guitar, but an octave lower: E A D G B E'

chords like first position Em and F sound too murky and ominous...but things like 3rd and 5th position barre chords and open Am or D and higher sounding arppegios and stuff like that sound great.

the DanoBass6 is paticularly good for doubling (ghost lead) a cool lead line one octave lower...for example, "Mr Moto" or "Walk Don't Run" both sound great ...

I believe that a version of the longhorn bass 6 was around in the olden-days...and they were also reisued in the late 1990s-early 2000s...nice Korean Danos

I've noodled around with a few Bass Vi's over the years, but never at any length of time.
they were more used for country or to beef up guitar lines on mellow, instro breaks of easylistening type stuff.
I really want to get one, but not sure how useful it will be,
The Huntington Cads used one on some songs.
Im sure you could play chords on it, but it would be very muddy, just like playing chords on a regualr bass, but a tad easier since the neck is more narrow.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Jeff(bigtikidude)

but, i really want to play a Fender Bass VI (with the cool tremolo) someday....

way too much $$$ for my budget...even the re-issue is mega-$$$

To add to the confusion about this 'bass VI' vs baritone thing: the Jaguar Baritone Custom that Fender has been selling the last few years is NOT really a baritone, as it's supposed to be tuned E to E (low E is an octave below the low E on a normal guitar). in the last year Fender corrected this, and if you go on their website you'll see that this same guitar is now called Jaguar Bass VI.

I bought it a couple of months ago. I'm having a ball with it, though it seems of limited use at the moment. Hopefully I'll write some songs using it for lead. But it sounds great, though the pickups are a bit microphonic. The rest of the guitar feels extremely well built, and I love messing around on it. It's got a BIG sound, with those big strings.

The only surf(-y?) track I can think of that utilizes a Bass VI is Jack Nitzsche's The Lonely Surfer. Not used very often....

Ivan

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Lemme see if I'm understanding you Ivan.
You bought this one http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0259400300 or an "actual" Bass VI?
Damn and I just love pickups with a little microphony. Cool

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Wraydar
Lemme see if I'm understanding you Ivan.
You bought this one http://www.fender.com/products/search.php?partno=0259400300 or an "actual" Bass VI?

Right, I bought the Jaguar Bass VI in your link (though mine is an older model that still reads "Baritone Custom" on the headstock - but it's the same guitar), not the actual Bass VI. Those things are way too expensive for such a limited use instrument!

Damn and I just love pickups with a little microphony. Cool

Until they start squealing like a pig when you're playing standing in front of the Showman!

Ivan

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OK I've got some questions, if you don't mind my asking:

How heavy is that bad boy?

How's the action/tension?

That things got a choke switch doesn't it? Confused

I just listened to the Lonely Surfer, pretty cool. I can really see it's limits though, Not quite a bass and not quite a guitar. Hmmm....

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Mel Waldorf uses the new Jaguar Bari to great effect. I can tell you first hand that it's got a rich, powerful sound coming through his showman, very meaty. Mel installed a trem on it too.

Mel you out there?

Danny Snyder

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Wraydar
How heavy is that bad boy?

It's not much heavier than a normal Jag. It has the same body as a normal Jag and the same electronics. The only weight differences comes from a longer neck. But the difference is not a big deal.

How's the action/tension?

I had to jack the action way up to get it to play without buzzing, but b/c the strings are so thick, it still feels very comfortable. The tension is actually a bit lower than on my Strats, since the strings on the thing are equivalent to 10's on a Strat - meaning they are not heavy-gauge bass VI strings, but more a lighter-gauge. I wish the tension was a bit greater, but it's not a big deal again.

That things got a choke switch doesn't it? Confused

A choke switch? You mean, the 'strangle' switch on the pickup switching plate? Well, one way or another, the electronics are exactly the same as on a Jag.

I just listened to the Lonely Surfer, pretty cool. I can really see it's limits though, Not quite a bass and not quite a guitar. Hmmm....

The greatest user of Bass VI was Jet Harris, formerly the bass player for the Shadows. Upon leaving the Shadows he had a couple of singles where he played a Bass VI. I like the way he used it, a lot. Check out that stuff (the best-known songs by him where he uses the Fender Bass VI are, Besame Mucho, Main Title Theme (Man With the Golden Arm), and Man From Nowhere - each one brilliant).

I think the Huntington Cads used a Bass VI on some of their songs, too...

Ivan

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I've owned a Bass VI, Dano 6 string bass, and Jaguar Baritone. All are fine instruments.

The Bass VI has a 30" scale. I had one of the MIJ models and I tuned it E-E, an octave below guitar. I used it on the Mel-tones "Surf Before Sunrise" CD and sold it when the prices for them got stupidly high. It was very difficult to find flatwound strings for it, though I understand there's a lot more options now.

Got a Dano 6 string bass about five years ago, one of the ones with the Hodad body and three pickups. I drilled out the bridge so I could put a .105 on the low string and tune it E-E. Sounds good, nice and twangy and a decent bass sound as well. Horrendously neck heavy. I used this on the Mach IV and Meshugga Beach Party CDs.

Earlier this year I got a Jaguar baritone, and installed a tremolo. Unlike the others, this I tune B-B. More of a mind twist to get around the fretboard, but the B-B tuning makes chords more effective, and the shorter scale (approx 28") makes it easier to switch with guitar. For my purposes it's the best of the bunch, and certainly the best bang for the buck.

Mel

I have a Jaguar Bass VI, and I installed a Jag trem on it too. I really like playing it, although, like Ivan says, its a limited use instrument. Chords are pretty muddy, so it works best as single note melodies and leads.

I did get the chance to fill in on Bass for the Beloved Invaders for 3 shows this summer,  and I used my Jag Bass VI and my Dual Showman.  I thought it gave a convincing bass sound.  Perhaps Bolder Bob can comment on it.

Chris

"You can't tell where you're going if you don't know where you've been"

Hey Mel, how would you compare the Bass VI and the Baritone? Is the Bass VI actually a baritone or a 6-string bass (It is tuned just like a bass right?)?

Mel & Chris or Others, How's the jag trem working out for you? Was it worth installing?

The greatest user of Bass VI was Jet Harris, formerly the bass player for the Shadows. Upon leaving the Shadows he had a couple of singles where he played a Bass VI. I like the way he used it, a lot. Check out that stuff (the best-known songs by him where he uses the Fender Bass VI are, Besame Mucho, Main Title Theme (Man With the Golden Arm), and Man From Nowhere - each one brilliant).

Good stuff, hadn't heard any of that before. Diamonds is another good one, but I read that it may have been a down-tuned jaguar he was playing.

Sorry for all the questions, but all the Bass/Baritone terminology is a bit confusing for some reason. And I guess this was the whole reason for this thread anyway.

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MelWaldorf
The Bass VI has a 30" scale. I had one of the MIJ models and I tuned it E-E, an octave below guitar. I used it on the Mel-tones "Surf Before Sunrise" CD and sold it when the prices for them got stupidly high.

There are some pretty good deals on ebay though!
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