BillyBlastOff
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Posted on Jan 29 2009 09:00 PM
Ok, so a friend of a friend of a friend says to me. Hey. I think Guitarists have a higher IQ than Bass Players or Drummers.
So I Say. "How's that"? And he says "Cause Bass players and drummers don't have to think as much as guitar players. Bass players usually just stand there and play the root notes, and drummers, well, they do alot of countin' and like to bang on stuff.
He said, "Guitarists gotta focus on melodies, chord changes, specific notes, bends, pulls, tone, certain volumes, and a ton of other variables.
So I say to him. "Interesting".
So, to prove his point, I would like to propose every guitarist, bass player, and drummer on this list to take a simple IQ test. It has to be the same IQ test for everybody, then submit it to Brian, and see who gets the highest results.
So let's see if my friend of a friend of a friend is wrong or right.
Get started!!
Billy
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badash
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Posted on Jan 29 2009 09:18 PM
A more interesting question to me is "are bass players and drummers more emotionally evolved" due to their greater sense of community (the rythm section) and responsibility as foundation for the band. You know empathy, social skills, etc. And are guitarists essentially suffering from Aspergers syndrome. Perhaps brilliant, but unable to read social cues and the emotions of others But hey. At least guitar players aren't as F-ed up as singers 
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bigtikidude
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Posted on Jan 29 2009 09:51 PM
um, so where is the test sir?
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PolloGuitar
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Posted on Jan 29 2009 10:01 PM
Bass player in my band is a freakin' genius.
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Posted on Jan 29 2009 10:43 PM
What about people who play guitar, bass, and drums?
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ErnestHernandez
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Posted on Jan 29 2009 11:07 PM
I think musicians in general have high IQs. Unless you play just to pick up chicks and get drunk...well then maybe not. But if you're involved in the song i.e. structure, arrangement, composition then your cognitive ability may be greater than the average person. Especially with bassists and drummers who sometimes create in the abstract without the assistance of the main melody.
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oestmann
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Adelaide
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 12:31 AM
I'd be interested to know what the I.Q. is of those monkeys with the clapping cymbals - would they go in with percussion players?
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ErnestHernandez
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 12:40 AM
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oestmann
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 12:46 AM
Calacas
Are you 'avin a laff?
Calacas...maybe... my I.Q. is just a little higher than a smart dog, so I tried to distract you for a moment, but you caught me out

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ErnestHernandez
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 07:17 AM
Calacas...maybe... my I.Q. is just a little higher than a smart dog, so I tried to distract you for a moment, but you caught me out
Tim if that's true...I'm sure the dog in question is a Border Collie ( which is reported to be the smartest of the canine crew). 
Anywhoo...back to the monkey, I love the cymbal clapping monkey! I just wish he kept better time and for longer periods (slacker). He'd be great in a band if he could be "plugged in" to AC and synced to a metronome. 
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eddiekatcher
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 07:33 AM
Duh, I ain't-a too brite and I don play gittar two well eider........ed
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BillyBlastOff
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Ventura County, Calif.
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 09:34 AM
oestmann
I'd be interested to know what the I.Q. is of those monkeys with the clapping cymbals - would they go in with percussion players?
LOL!
If you put a drummer and a monkey in a round room and told them both to pee in a corner, who would figure it out first?
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 10:25 AM
oestmann
I'd be interested to know what the I.Q. is of those monkeys with the clapping cymbals - would they go in with percussion players?
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Surfgitar
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 12:01 PM
It doesn't answer the specific question at hand, but an interesting study.
October 2, 2008 - A new study has concluded that musicians have IQ scores than non-musicians, supporting other recent research that intensive musical training is associated with an elevated IQ score.
Vanderbilt University psychologists Crystal Gibson, Bradley Folley and Sohee Park have found that professionally trained musicians more effectively use a creative technique called divergent thinking, and also use both the left and the right sides of their frontal cortex more heavily than the average person.
One possible explanation the researchers offer for the musicians' elevated use of both brain hemispheres is that many musicians must be able to use both hands independently to play their instruments.
"We were interested in how individuals who are naturally creative look at problems that are best solved by thinking 'out of the box'," Folley said. "We studied musicians because creative thinking is part of their daily experience, and we found that there were qualitative differences in the types of answers they gave to problems and in their associated brain activity."
Previous studies of creativity have focused on divergent thinking, which is the ability to come up with new solutions to open-ended, multifaceted problems. Highly creative individuals often display more divergent thinking than their less creative counterparts.
"Musicians may be particularly good at efficiently accessing and integrating competing information from both hemispheres," Folley said. "Instrumental musicians often integrate different melodic lines with both hands into a single musical piece, and they have to be very good at simultaneously reading the musical symbols, which are like left-hemisphere-based language, and integrating the written music with their own interpretation, which has been linked to the right hemisphere."
To conduct the study, the researchers recruited 20 classical music students from the Vanderbilt Blair School of Music and 20 non-musicians from a Vanderbilt introductory psychology course. The musicians each had at least eight years of training. The instruments they played included the piano, woodwind, string and percussion instruments. The groups were matched based on age, gender, education, sex, high school grades and SAT scores.
The researchers conducted two experiments to compare the creative thinking processes of the musicians and the control subjects. In the first experiment, the researchers showed the research subjects a variety of household objects and asked them to make up new functions for them, and also gave them a written word association test. The musicians gave more correct responses than non-musicians on the word association test, which the researchers believe may be attributed to enhanced verbal ability among musicians. The musicians also suggested more novel uses for the household objects than their non-musical counterparts.
In the second experiment, the two groups again were asked to identify new uses for everyday objects as well as to perform a basic control task while the activity in their prefrontal lobes was monitored using a brain scanning technique called near-infrared spectroscopy, or NIRS. NIRS measures changes in blood oxygenation in the cortex while an individual is performing a cognitive task.
"When we measured subjects' prefrontal cortical activity while completing the alternate uses task, we found that trained musicians had greater activity in both sides of their frontal lobes. Because we equated musicians and non-musicians in terms of their performance, this finding was not simply due to the musicians inventing more uses; there seems to be a qualitative difference in how they think about this information," Folley said.
The research is currently in press at the journal Brain and Cognition.
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BillyBlastOff
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 12:19 PM
Jon
What about people who play guitar, bass, and drums?
They're not allowed to take the test. It would confuse the hell out of us..........
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DNAdude
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 02:43 PM
I know jokes insulting the intelligence of drummers:
Q: How can you tell if the drum riser is straight?
A: The drummer drools out of both sides of his mouth
And of guitarists:
Q: Why did the electric guitar player put his guitar case on the dashboard of his car?
A: So he could park in the handicapped zone.
Since I don't know any jokes insulting the intelligence of bass players, I hereby authoritatively proclaim that bass players have the highest IQs.
Wait...what keyboard players?
Darn it.
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WR
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 02:48 PM
Jon
What about people who play guitar, bass, and drums?
tss, you have to take the test three times and add the scores. _everybody _knows that.
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WR
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 02:58 PM
BillyBlastOff
It has to be the same IQ test for everybody, then submit it to Brian, and see who gets the highest results.
well, I can duck out of this. Since IQ tests are by definiton language based, it's by definition impossible to test different language groups with the same test.
also, IQ tests are by definition nothing more then a comparison between everyone that takes the test.
so in conlcusion, we non native english speakers, "un"fortunatly, can't partcipate. 
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oestmann
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 05:42 PM
I'll do the test 'cause I'm always looking for another reason to feel superior 
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Posted on Jan 30 2009 05:57 PM
DNAdude wrote
Since I don't know any jokes insulting the intelligence of bass players
I do, (borrowed from Bert Susanka of the Ziggens):
Q: How do you get the bass player off your front porch?
A: Pay him for the pizza.
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