morphball
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
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Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Jan 21 2009 08:46 AM
So I've been making steady progress on my surf guitar chops since last Summer, pretty much blindly learning what I believe are those 'obligatory' tunes a true surf guitarist should know in a pinch. (Hey you never know, I could be just strolling around Okinawa, discover a small club where a Ventures tribute band is performing, and then get asked to play something right on the spot. It could happen!) I'm aiming for a good foundation, so I'd love to hear some input in order to help give me some focus in the year ahead. What were your first learned songs? These are the ones under my belt so far, in varying degrees of accuracy:
Misirlou (Surf Coasters version)
Penetration (Blue Hawaiians ver.)
Walk Don't Run (original)
Pipeline (Ventures ver.)
Diamond Head
Intruder
Baja (SC ver.)
Think I know a couple more I'm forgetting... planning to add classics like Mr. Moto, Out of Limits, Bombara, etc., very shortly, but I'm open to suggestions. Also, I'm not too worried about keeping things entirely trad either.
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11046
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 21 2009 09:38 AM
I'm sure we've covered this several times, let's check the archives and find them.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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morphball
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Posts: 3324
Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Jan 21 2009 09:42 AM
Thanks Danny- I'm usually not shy about searching, but I've really only found radio playlists so far. My apologies if this has been beat into the ground.
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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TRCat
Joined: Jul 04, 2008
Posts: 65
Loudoun County, VA
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Posted on Jan 21 2009 07:57 PM
Morphball,
Feel your pain, here's a few more that my primarily "Trad-First Wave" band is playing:
Malaguena
Latin'ia
The Wedge
Shake-n-Stomp
Surf Rider
K-39
And some intrumentals, esp since I'm in the UK:
Foot Tapper
Apache
Telstar
Hawaii 5-O
Perfidia
I basically scoured these pages and adapted what the band liked, and what the "folks" would like. Hell, I even experimented with "Green Onions", "Runaway" and "La Bamba" (Keyes and Sax X2 respectively"
Good luck!
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morphball
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Posts: 3324
Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Jan 21 2009 08:37 PM
Thanks for taking the time to answer such a newbie question TRCat, I'm adding those great suggestions to my itinerary. 
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
Posts: 11046
Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Jan 21 2009 09:18 PM
Here's a link that may be of interest to you:
http://surfguitar101.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&t=2875
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party
Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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morphball
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Posts: 3324
Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 08:37 AM
Ah, thanks Danny, that is pretty much the same question I had... can't believe I missed that thread. I'm similarly doing a hit-list, though no surf guitar teacher or tabs are being used here... pretty much doing this by ear like most of us did in the pre-Web days.
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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Pappa_Surf
Joined: Oct 28, 2008
Posts: 671
Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 09:02 AM
WindanseaBeachBoy
You can find many of these first-wave songs tabbed out in a variety of collections -
"Surf Guitar by Creative Concepts press is a good one, it includes Misirlou, Mr. Moto, Penetration, Wipe Out!, Tequila, Rumble, Out of Limits, Lets Go Trippin, Surfers Stomp and more.
"Surf" by in the Hal Leonard Play Along series, has Out of Limits, Penetration, Walk Dont Run, Pipeline, Let's Go Trippin', and The Wedge, plus others and a play-along CD with the song plus a backing track (good for practice).
Another CD title is "The Best of Dick Dale", 15 classics from The King of Surf Guitar, also published by Hal Leonard.
I haven't checked if these are still available, but can anyone who has them comment one whether they are worth the expense?
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Pappa_Surf
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Posts: 671
Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 09:31 AM
That 10 songs thread was really good information for the beginner. Myself, I started this past November.
I've been feeling over the last couple of weeks that I need some more direction. I don't do well when I'm just noodling around, I have fun, but I don't feel like I'm progressing and I tend to do things I can do well rather than push myself to tackle the difficult things (like for me, that pesky F chord that sounds like I'm playing with my winter gloves on).
Since I can't really afford formal lessons, what I really need is a surf mentor. I've even taken out a local web ad asking for one. It's received a lot of hits, but no takers yet.
But I'm really thankful that SG101 is here. This is just a super resource, and a fun place to visit. A big thanks to all to the accomplished players out there who take the time to give advice to us beginners.
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 09:53 AM
Make a CD-R of 1st wave classics, and learn how to play them by ear. It takes time but it really helps your ear, which is just as important as technique.
Use a computer to slow parts down if you need to. Loop over slowed down parts. This also develops your ear.
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zak
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 10:09 AM
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Pappa_Surf
Joined: Oct 28, 2008
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Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 10:44 AM
Brian Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:53 am Post subject:
Use a computer to slow parts down if you need to. Loop over slowed down parts. This also develops your ear.
I'm not the most tech savvy guy around. How do you slow down a song on your computer?
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4417
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 10:55 AM
Pappa_Surf
Brian Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:53 am Post subject:
Use a computer to slow parts down if you need to. Loop over slowed down parts. This also develops your ear.
I'm not the most tech savvy guy around. How do you slow down a song on your computer?
IIRC even Windows Media Player will do it. YOu just have to go through the menus and find the setting.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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surferXmatt
Joined: Aug 27, 2008
Posts: 1570
New York
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 11:03 AM
Pappa_Surf - try to get Audacity - it is a freeware audio editing program. So you can multitrack record as well as import files and manipulate the speed. Not a bad program for free. Check it out.
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Pappa_Surf
Joined: Oct 28, 2008
Posts: 671
Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 11:06 AM
synchro
Pappa_Surf
Brian Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:53 am Post subject:
Use a computer to slow parts down if you need to. Loop over slowed down parts. This also develops your ear.
I'm not the most tech savvy guy around. How do you slow down a song on your computer?
IIRC even Windows Media Player will do it. YOu just have to go through the menus and find the setting.
Great Surf Guitar tips and now tech tips.
That slowed-down feature is excellent. I'll be incorporating that into my practice sessions.
Thanks.
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synchro
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Posts: 4417
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 11:07 AM
Works like a charm and it's free.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Pappa_Surf
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Posts: 671
Winnipeg, Canada
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 11:13 AM
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surferXmatt
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Posts: 1570
New York
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 11:16 AM
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morphball
Joined: Dec 23, 2008
Posts: 3324
Pittsboro, NC
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Posted on Jan 22 2009 11:45 AM
Thanks guys, great suggestions/comments all around. I can definitely agree that having a DAW in your practice space is a must these days. Audacity is great, I've used the Linux version for years- it was naturally used for my recent guitar awakening for breaking up more complex tunes (i.e., anything played by Shigeo Naka) into logical parts, and then slowing down about -20 to even -40 bpm's with the tempo filter. (The Linux version was missing this and needed tweaking, but I think the Windows one has it by default.)
— Mike
http://www.youtube.com/morphballio
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MissingLink
Joined: Jul 23, 2008
Posts: 488
Edge of the East China Sea
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Posted on Jan 24 2009 11:50 AM
There's also a book of surf classics tabs in the Hal-Leonard guitar player series. There's a CD with each 'original' track followed by a 'play along' version with the lead guitar bits eliminated. The CD ROM allows you to slow down the tracks, repeat them, and so forth.
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