skeeter
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Posted on Nov 07 2008 03:52 PM
zak
Black Eyed Peas already appropriated Misirlou and what happened? NOTHING.
What happened is everytime my daughters hear the opening to the original Miserlou they expect the BEP version to kick in, then they're dissapointed. ![Laughing Laughing](/media/smiley/images/icon_lol.gif)
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Posted on Nov 07 2008 03:56 PM
Besides Miserlou=Pump It there is now a new dance version of Apache out there...
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Kman1
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Posted on Nov 07 2008 05:13 PM
Dang, that was the whole thing in a nutshell.
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I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play.
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UnsteadyFreddie
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Posted on Nov 07 2008 05:24 PM
ZAK yet again speaks the truth;
for many of us it is not our 'real jobs' but we put a lot of time, effort, money, into it, 'cause we dig it immensely
at least for those who cannot get enough of it....depending of course on where one lives, there certainly seems to be enuf live surf music to satiate one's needs
for me, it's a "hobby"-and-then-some....I believe there is something to be had for me, I am trying to make a difference, trying to keep the twang alive and available
I feel the genre is in a slow rise, I kind of feel 'something' is rumbling, though I cannot gauge its significance
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Posted on Nov 07 2008 05:27 PM
UnsteadyFreddie
ZAK yet again speaks the truth;
for many of us it is not our 'real jobs' but we put a lot of time, effort, money, into it, 'cause we dig it immensely
at least for those who cannot get enough of it....depending of course on where one lives, there certainly seems to be enuf live surf music to satiate one's needs
for me, it's a "hobby"-and-then-some....I believe there is something to be had for me, I am trying to make a difference, trying to keep the twang alive and available
I feel the genre is in a slow rise, I kind of feel 'something' is rumbling, though I cannot gauge its significance
UNSTEADY FREDDIE
Same here, it's not going to be my main career, but I will gig. However, most surf bands don't get much coverage. I have never watched a commercial for any surf bands on TV.
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I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play.
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Posted on Nov 07 2008 11:06 PM
I think ZAK hit the nail on the head here many times over. Unless I'm wrong, I think the band that had the best chance of achieving the goal of "mainstream appeal" would have been The Bomboras. They were right in that time pocket to use Pulp Fiction as a springboard. They had the full backing of Rob Zombie and Geffen Records. They toured relentlessly for years and got airplay from Rodney Bingenhiemer on KROQ. They were in the movie "Boardheads" and had a song on the soundtrack of Starship Troopers. They had celebrities comming to their shows etc.....the list goes on and they could only carry it so far. They had a stage presence few bands could ever dream of having and it wasnt enough. If there was anything "cool" in surf then they were it. I cant see the universe lining up like that again.....not in a long long time....if ever.
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 09:15 AM
Here's my take as leader of an all instrumental band that plays surf and instrumental music using the 2 guitar/bass/drum format. I love surf and guitar based instrumentals (Ventures, Shadows. etc.). I also like to play music that people enjoy. Each of our band's members loves music and would (and do) often play free gigs, but we all appreciate getting paid too. In Richmond VA there are very few opportunities to play 3hr of pure surf music. It is possible to get paying jobs as an all instrumental band if you are willing to introduce some variety, take a look at all of the styles the Ventures covered. Yes, we cover the "classic" surf tunes: Mr. Moto, Walk Don't Run, Secret Agent Man, Pipeline. Why? Because people like them. We also do instrumental versions of everything from Broadway tunes ( Age of Aquarius), old country songs, Beach Boys, Beatles, and originals. We don't play as much as we'd like but we manage to land paying jobs fairly regularly.
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:15 AM
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:20 AM
Hey Zak, is it bad for a band to do SOME covers as well as their own material?
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:25 AM
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:28 AM
Kman1
Hey Zak, is it bad for a band to do SOME covers as well as their own material?
There's no good or bad here Kman. You just have to decide for yourself what the objectives of your band is. If you want to be different than the other 1000 surf bands than find a way to do that, and if you play covers stay true to your own sound not the original version's.
— Danny Snyder
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Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
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Kman1
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:32 AM
Ok, my band isn't only Surf, as hard as I push, but we plan on playing a frew covers to start out, but I want to write stuff as well, my little way in ensuring Surf will be around for younger generations. That way they won't have to listen to endless covers, which does get annoying.
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I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play.
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ElMonstroPorFavor
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:39 AM
while I think surf could stand more exposure, there's no revival in sight and I think we're benefitting. If surf became an in thing again so would traditional sounds. I know a lot of musicians hate the word surf and I only like to use it for convenience reasons, because the name is meaning less and less with time and as a result newer and fresher ideas are going around. Chicha Libre has members of Shadowy Men and they're doing some sort of surfy latin thing that's irresistible. If surf were a craze again do you think people would give a crap about the Middle Eastern flavorings of the Madeira? From a respected band to a fringe gimmick, that's where they'll go. That term does give us a community which makes for an easier way of discovering those bands, but even a community sort of drives it further into a niche with repeated stale ideas. Down with surf!
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:40 AM
There is nothing more satisfying than working up an original song with a band. I encourage any band that does covers to take a stab at it. AND don't abandon a song if it sounds too much like another surf song, just do something! Don't listen too closely to detractors when it comes to your music. So what if you seem to hang around in the same keys, or the structure is a common one. You can always keep that in mind on the next song. The point is, don't let other people shame you into dropping the pursuit of playing original material.
I guess you have to figure out what your "carrot" is... do you play just for the praise of the fans? Wrong genre for that. It seems like good things happen when you follow your muse. Anymore, I don't know who our fan base is or could be. If it starts clicking with a large group of people, then great. If not, no big deal. Whatever you do, just "bring it" when you play.
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 11:51 AM
another thing is we use covers as "bait", if there are females in the audience that look bored (it seems like the lack of lyrics really bums them out sometimes) I'll start up sleepwalk, and BAM they are dragging a dude onto the floor. Once we have them there, we just keep hitting them with tunes without any space between songs. They don't have to be covers at that point.
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 01:29 PM
surfneptune
another thing is we use covers as "bait", if there are females in the audience that look bored (it seems like the lack of lyrics really bums them out sometimes) I'll start up sleepwalk, and BAM they are dragging a dude onto the floor. Once we have them there, we just keep hitting them with tunes without any space between songs. They don't have to be covers at that point.
WHich Sleepwalk, Ventures or Shadows? How does that work. ![Hmmm Hmmm](/media/smiley/images/icon_hmm.gif)
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I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play.
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 01:40 PM
We play our version of sleepwalk based on the ventures version I guess. It was originally done by Santo And Johnny. It's the ultimate romantico song!
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 02:15 PM
Zak wrote:
Ever heard of a cover band enjoying success, popularity, airplay, and stupendous CD sales? No, neither have I and neither has anyone else.
uh, The Ventures?
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Posted on Nov 08 2008 02:17 PM
well played...
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