audiodrome
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Boston
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 07:27 PM
I've read a few comments here about a easy mod for the Fender '63 Reissue Reverb Tank involving tubes. What does this entail exactly? I know that there is a much more complicated mod which involves rewiring the circuit but this one sounds like something I could do myself.
— Paul
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Kman1
Joined: Aug 29, 2008
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Surf City
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 07:33 PM
Well, you could always change the tubes...
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audiodrome
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Boston
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 07:37 PM
Kman1
Well, you could always change the tubes...
Is that the mod? I found a link here to the "63 Reverb Reissue Cap & Tube Mod Page" but it was under construction.
— Paul
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 07:46 PM
Did you try searching the forums?
http://home.comcast.net/~rmessick2/
As for the tube swap, swap a NOS 6K6 for the stock 6V6.
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Kman1
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Surf City
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 07:49 PM
audiodrome
Kman1
Well, you could always change the tubes...
Is that the mod? I found a link here to the "63 Reverb Reissue Cap & Tube Mod Page" but it was under construction.
It's technically a mod, but it's like the most common and easy mod.
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Sonichris
I also like to think that all early 60's fender equipment is happy to be playing surf music again. After all, its the music it was meant to play.
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 08:07 PM
Oh and welcome to the site!
BTW, please use the search feature as there are literally a hundred threads on reverb units and mods.
Enjoy.
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zak
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 08:15 PM
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DeadRanchHands
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 08:43 PM
You know, something that would really improve the search function would be the ability to search in topic title ONLY. Just a thought.
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audiodrome
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Boston
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 09:02 PM
Thanks - great to be aboard! Lots of great stuff here - I'm loving it!
I did search the site and I did find that link but the mod page is under construction. What can I expect from the tube swap - warmer sound?
— Paul
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Brian
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Oct 12 2008 09:37 PM
Replacing the 6V6 with a NOS 6K6 will take some of the harshness out.
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mad_dog
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Montclair, NJ
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Posted on Oct 13 2008 11:14 AM
Getting a good NOS 6K6 does eliminate some harshness. I heard contrary opinions on swapping the pre-amp tubes. My experience was positive on this. The stock tubes were forgettable. Some good NOS stuff in there added depth, richness to the tone. Past that (and the capacitor mod, which helped a tiny bit), best thing I did was swapping out the tank. The new tanks seem to be all over the place in quality and tone. Luck of the draw. Mine was harsh, even after the other mods. Tossed it and used another. Huge difference. Great sound now.
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Bengal65
Joined: Oct 12, 2008
Posts: 142
Houston, TX
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Posted on Oct 16 2008 07:50 PM
I've got a 6K6 NOS tube ready to go in my Reverb Unit. Does the unit have to be adjusted (bias?) when going from the 6V6 to the 6K6?
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zak
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Posted on Oct 16 2008 07:53 PM
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Bengal65
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Houston, TX
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Posted on Oct 16 2008 07:59 PM
Hey thanks again zak! Sorry for all the questions. I'm just trying to do this correctly. You have been a great help as well as all the members here!!! I thank them for all their suggestions.
I just got my tank (1993 model) back from the shop. I bought it used from a Vintage Guitar Dealer on the East Coast. It arrived DOA. I took it to the shop and they had to replace the reverb pan. Needless to say he's getting the bill It works now. I guess UPS threw it around a bit. I don't know!
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SURFmole
Joined: Nov 22, 2007
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Portland, OR
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Posted on Oct 17 2008 02:05 PM
zak
No, it is a direct swap in the RI (6V6 to 6K6 that is...putting a 6V6 into an original tank designed for a 6k6 is NOT a good idea).
Ummm....tell that to Fender then!! The reason the RI sounds better with the 6K6 is that the RI IS the original design which was for a 6K6. You can interchange the 6K6/6V6 and it will work either way (6K6 in RI or 6V6 in vintage unit) but in my opinion it sounds better if you use a 6K6 in either one (the way it was intended by design) or you change a resistor to rebias it properly for the 6V6 which Fender for whatever reason decided not to do.
Bengal65
I've got a 6K6 NOS tube ready to go in my Reverb Unit. Does the unit have to be adjusted (bias?) when going from the 6V6 to the 6K6?
Not according to Fender or they would have biased it properly with a different value resistor when they shipped it with the 6V6!
The reason it sounds better w/ the 6K6 is that the RI circuit is set up for that tube because it copies the original...you ARE biasing it properly by putting in the correct tube.
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Mr_Reverb63
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San Pablo, CA
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Posted on Nov 22 2008 09:34 PM
ok im going to free ride on this thread. i found this in some book i had. anyone try this? is this recommended ? it mentions that shim mod another member posted not so long ago.
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sonni
Joined: Nov 08, 2006
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Vienna, Austria
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Posted on Apr 22 2009 05:02 PM
so theres
the c10 cap mod
the 220k resistor footswitch jack mod
the reverbpan spring epoxy and conductor shim mod
and what are the other tube swaps i heard of? there should be some more than the 6V6 > 6K6 swap, shouldn't there
anything else?
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tonetti
Joined: Aug 20, 2008
Posts: 654
California
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Posted on Dec 10 2009 04:51 PM
Anyone ever try the epoxy and wood shims mentioned above?
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irv78
Joined: Jun 26, 2009
Posts: 99
Austria
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Posted on Mar 30 2010 02:50 AM
Hi guys, I just did the "wood-shim-mod" to my brand new Reverb RI (made in U.S.A). And I'm amazed. The sound is much better now.
Before I did it I had to turn up the Dwell and the Mix almost fully to get some decent verb - and it was muddy and had barely any defined drip. So I opened up the front and unhooked the pan to find out that the input transducer was loose. It could be jiggled up and down easily. So I simply jammed a piece of a toothpick between the top of the coil and the metal part. The result is great, all the muddiness is gone and the drip is awesome!
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on Mar 30 2010 06:13 AM
Welcome Irv78. Exactly, it's a simple and very effective mod. I've found that pans with loose transducers have a sort of flutter echo quality, not a smooth decay. It's worth the trouble for all of you reverb tank owners to inspect your pan at some point, wiggle the transducers (the little coils on each end) and if they move at all, try jamming a tooth pick in the gap on the bottom between the transducers and the metal plates they sit in then break off the tooth pick leaving the shim. I'm not convinced about the epoxy but I may try it on one of my pans just to see.
— Danny Snyder
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
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