IvanP
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Posted on Jul 03 2007 08:25 PM
I'm gonna geek out and post a few more photos - just love the looks of it! And if Kyle can do it, why not I!!
If you like this sort of thing, then enjoy! If not, my apologies.
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DannySnyder
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Posted on Jul 03 2007 09:18 PM
Dude, shot #3 is my new summertime desktop wallpaper.
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Brian
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Posted on Jul 03 2007 10:44 PM
Stunning! Love the Fiesta Red Strat next to that. You should pose your Shoreline Gold also.
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RockabillyKing
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Dallas, Texas
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 06:54 AM
Tell me about that sweet Strat! '64 or '65? Looks like a trans logo......?
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WR
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netherlands
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 07:07 AM
Dammit Ivan, wow. Make that triple wow!
Say, next to the dog it looks more like a tremolux - the dog is gigantic no? Go figure, Im kind of afraid of big dogs. One less opportunity to steal a drop dead gorgeous showman I guess Oh, that's why you have the dog?
is it smooth or rough blonde? (the amp, not the dog) - it looks smooth but I cant tell for sure (the amp. the dog does not look smooth at all!)
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 08:25 AM
Thanks, everybody! Glad you like.
Brian, the Showman is back in the basement, and it's a real pain to get it out, so I think the Shoreline Gold Strat will not get the modeling opportunity now. It was the Fiesta Red Strat's turn, anyway.
RockabillyKing, I'm very happy you were tricked into thinking the Strat's a '63-'65! It does indeed have a 'transition logo', but it's actually a heavily modified '88 Strat Plus. The tell-tale signs are: 22 frets, the headstock 'plug' at the top of the fretboard (not present on sixties rosewood board Strats), the Sperzel tuners, and the very white dots (sixties strats had much more creamier dots). The mods done were all intended to make the guitar more like the early-to-mid sixties models: I had the original 2-point tremolo replaced with the vintage-style 6-point tremolo, the original roller-ball nut replaced with vintage style bone nut, and stock Lace Sensor pickups replaced with Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro APS-2 pickups (after having Texas Specials and '57/'62 reissues in there for the last nine years). Ultimately, all those original Strat Plus features that were touted as 'improvements' detracted from tone and playability, I think. IMHO, the guitar is much better now. (If you're wondering why I bought it in the first place, well, I've had it since '90 - I got it because I actually bought the hype about improved features. But I've become very attached to it since then, so I figured I should just modify it rather than getting rid of it altogether. I'm glad I did, it's a great guitar, really resonates well, with an amazing neck, and I play it all the time, especially recently.)
Wannes, you're very funny! Scared of big dogs?? Freddie's a sweetheart! He's a gentle giant. Though I have no doubt he'd do some serious harm to an intruder. Yeah, he's a big dog - he's 100 lbs, and is as tall as my wife when he stands on his hind legs.
The tolex is smooth blonde. It should actually be a bit more white to be completely authentic, I think, but it looks really nice. BTW, I have something for you, I think you know what, but I need your address. PM me.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 10:16 AM
Ivan, you should paint the screws on the logo of the cab black. And I just noticed I need to paint the screws on my showman cab logo black.
I can't tell that the tolex needs to be whiter. It looks fantastic to me. Also, your strat is going to be vintage in 6 years. Excited?
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P2gee
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Waco Texas
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 11:37 AM
Ivan.....all I have say is your grass is getting a little tall. Of course, if I had a rig like that, my grass would be up to my azz!!
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IronMaiden
Joined: Nov 02, 2006
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Virginia Beach
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 12:10 PM
Is that what you recorded 'ruins' and 'sandstorm' with?
Im still trying to decide on a cab for my dual showman. Thats a 1x15" right?
Looks great.
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 01:10 PM
JakeDobner
Ivan, you should paint the screws on the logo of the cab black.
Wow, Jake. That is something that _I_ noticed, but didn't think anybody else would! You're either among the most perceptive people I've ever known, or you sat there with a magnifying glass examining the photos for half an hour! Anyway, yes, I'll probably take care of that at some point...
I can't tell that the tolex needs to be whiter. It looks fantastic to me.
Thank you, sir!
Also, your strat is going to be vintage in 6 years. Excited?
Actually, yes! So, the rule is 25 years? I didn't know that. Of course, vintage requires that the guitar be authentic and have original parts, and mine's been pretty botched up, so it's probably never gonna be worth a whole lot - except to me.
P2gee, yeah, my lawn could use a clip, it's been ten days since the last one. I've been away for a week, and with the drought, it's really patchy. So, I thought I could give it a few more days. The rig was partly responsible for this...
Finally, IronMaiden, no, I didn't have this rig when we recorded Sandstorm and Ruins. I used a Fender Dual Professional with Weber California alnico speakers for that one (and a Vox AC30, a dual amp setup). Different guitar, too - my Shoreline Gold '62 reissue Strat.
Im still trying to decide on a cab for my dual showman. Thats a 1x15" right?
Yep, that's right. However, since you have a dual Showman, why not just get what it was designed to run with: either a 2x15" or a 2x12" cab.
Thanks, guys!
Ivan
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RockabillyKing
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Dallas, Texas
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Posted on Jul 04 2007 07:27 PM
RockabillyKing, I'm very happy you were tricked into thinking the Strat's a '63-'65! It does indeed have a 'transition logo', but it's actually a heavily modified '88 Strat Plus. The tell-tale signs are: 22 frets, the headstock 'plug' at the top of the fretboard (not present on sixties rosewood board Strats), the Sperzel tuners, and the very white dots (sixties strats had much more creamier dots). The mods done were all intended to make the guitar more like the early-to-mid sixties models: I had the original 2-point tremolo replaced with the vintage-style 6-point tremolo, the original roller-ball nut replaced with vintage style bone nut, and stock Lace Sensor pickups replaced with Seymour Duncan Alnico II Pro APS-2 pickups (after having Texas Specials and '57/'62 reissues in there for the last nine years). Ultimately, all those original Strat Plus features that were touted as 'improvements' detracted from tone and playability, I think. IMHO, the guitar is much better now. (If you're wondering why I bought it in the first place, well, I've had it since '90 - I got it because I actually bought the hype about improved features. But I've become very attached to it since then, so I figured I should just modify it rather than getting rid of it altogether. I'm glad I did, it's a great guitar, really resonates well, with an amazing neck, and I play it all the time, especially recently.)
Ahhhhhh Yes! I looked at it VERY quickly. At a second glance I see the tuners and truss rod adjust from the headstock. Those are fine players! That one in particular looks great, it did fool me at a glance! Probably due to the absence of the two point trem.. I knew it wasn't a reissue..
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Joelman
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Redlands, CA
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Posted on Jul 05 2007 12:35 AM
IvanP
I would like to add my to the developing pool.
I would like to know how in the world do you guys move such large amps around? I don't see any casters. Do you use a hand truck, or a wagon???
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krupanut
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Austin Texas
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Posted on Jul 05 2007 09:33 AM
looks great Ivan!
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IvanP
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southern Michigan
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Posted on Jul 06 2007 10:38 PM
Joelman
IvanPI would like to add my to the developing pool.
Thanks, guys!
I would like to know how in the world do you guys move such large amps around? I don't see any casters. Do you use a hand truck, or a wagon???
In my case, by the handles! And believe me, it's a real sacrifice. It HURTS! The 1x15" cab is big and heavy, and no fun to carry. But I wanted to keep it original looking, so no casters. But I'm still young enough where I can handle it - though if I had to do it a couple of times a week, I might change my mind!
Jake, you'll be happy to know that the logo screws on the speaker cab have been replaced with black ones! (I happened to have some that were the perfect fit.). Looks MUCH better!
Ivan
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DannySnyder
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Posted on Jul 06 2007 11:36 PM
For those of you like Ivan who keep their cabs caster free, I recommend using a flat bed furniture dolly, perhaps with a lip on 3 sides to keep the cab from sliding off. Try to limit your abuse to your backs as much as possible.
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diceophonic
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Posted on Jul 07 2007 01:41 AM
Ivan it looks amazing I was floored when saw this thread and looked and hot-dam I was blown away, a mirror image of mine I freaked out!!! words alone can't do it and this is the best way I can say it or show it Ivan about your Showman
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last month I found a NOS genuine real 1964 pre-cbs Showman faceplate in mint shape @ my local amp/guitar repair shop, now my Showman is complete.
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WR
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Posted on Jul 07 2007 02:50 AM
DannySnyder
For those of you like Ivan who keep their cabs caster free, I recommend using a flat bed furniture dolly, perhaps with a lip on 3 sides to keep the cab from sliding off. Try to limit your abuse to your backs as much as possible.
is there anything wrong with the fender plug-in casters? I use those and love them, since I also dont like casters on a cab once it stands. but I like it when I need to move it!
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instead of a furniture dolly Id sooner get one of these - preferably foldable and not to large depending on your car size. furniture dollies are a pain with uneven streets, cobble stones, bumps and what have you, plus you can stock more on these kind of carts. my 2 cents of course.
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JakeDobner
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Seattle
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Posted on Jul 07 2007 02:54 AM
We don't want to ruin vintage or vintage spec cabs with plug in casters. That is my guess. I didn't know plug in casters were made. I'm guessing they pop right out?
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WR
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Posted on Jul 07 2007 03:19 AM
yup, they're on many fender amps too, but I guess only from the mid or late seventies on. they're widely available. fwiw, they are original fender parts. yes you'd need to drill a hole in the bottom (four, actually) about half inch diameter.
I can see how one would not want to drill a hole in an original cab, but a new one, vintage specs or not, or one that's been retolexed, new speakers etc, I dont see what the big deal would be. But I admit that I don't have the "collectors" attitude at all, if an amp add says "all original caps, resisors, even original tubes" than to me that doesn't signal "wow, original, value" to me it just signals "not taken care off, need loads of money to make playable".
anyway, I like the plug in casters, but to each his own of course
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IvanP
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Posted on Jul 07 2007 08:15 AM
Kyle, it's like our amps were separated at birth!!! I will have to reciprocate to your with my . Simply gorgeous! (Do you find yourself just sitting there, staring at your amp? I do....)
Danny and Wannes: the thing about a dolly or a cart or even wheels is that they really wouldn't help me one damn bit. I have a narrow basement staircase (my house is 120+ years old), and I have to maneuver mightily WITHOUT a dolly just to get the cab out of there. There's no way I could get it out with a dolly or a cart. And then there's a short distance to the door, which is again not wide enough to have the cab strapped to the dolly or a cart, and then a few more steps, and then I'm at the car. I find the situation at venues to be similar - clubs usually have a maze of narrow hallways and stairs that you have to get through, and a dolly - or even wheels - are of very limited help. Even with my Vibrasonic which had those removable wheels or when I borrowed amps with wheels on them, I still found myself carrying the amp by the handle most of the time. One more thing: it greatly worries me when I'm rolling an amp and feel how much it's bouncing around and getting jarred. That can't be good for the tubes, and probably not very good for the solder joints. So, I feel it's much easier on the amp to just carry it.
Anyway, if the wheels and casters work for you, great. But I have a strong back for the moment and we don't play THAT often, so I'll just continue to carry it.
Ivan
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