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So I joined the garagepunk hideout because it seemed like a cool site. I commited it seems the unforgivable crime of trying to promote our new album there. My post was deleted and I recieved a really rude and abrassive reprimand from the moderator accusing me of spamming and threatening me with banishment. Wow... I sent him a very polite and apologetic email to which I recieved an even ruder response. Thing is I've met this guy before in person and got on ok with him, and he was aware it was me when this all happened. I sense a power trip going on...

This has given me a much deeper appreciation of SG101. This is really one of the nicest places online. This is also one of the easiest and clear forums to navigate. Thanks Brian for creating such a good atmosphere and giving us this outlet for our obsession!

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psychonaut wrote:

This has given me a much deeper appreciation of SG101.
This is really one of the nicest places online. This
is also one of the easiest and clear forums to
navigate. Thanks Brian for creating such a good
atmosphere and giving us this outlet for our obsession!

Hear hear!

Ryan
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I heartily second that. This is the only forum I visit with any regularity for the reasons you mentioned.

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Indeed! I'm also on other forums, but none as active and congenial as this one.

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I also hang out on a car forum, and this one by far has the best grammar.

Mike
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This forum lacks much of the drama seen on others. Not sure why that is. I try to create as much as I can. Rimshot

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I think the forum takes on the personality or mood of the site administrator. Not sucking up here, but this is a cool place largely because Brian is a cool guy, and a fan like we are--not trying to be above us all. Very tolerant.

psychonaut wrote:

So I joined the garagepunk hideout because it seemed
like a cool site. I commited it seems the unforgivable
crime of trying to promote our new album there. My
post was deleted and I recieved a really rude and
abrassive reprimand from the moderator accusing me of
spamming and threatening me with banishment. Wow... I
sent him a very polite and apologetic email to which I
recieved an even ruder response. Thing is I've met
this guy before in person and got on ok with him, and
he was aware it was me when this all happened. I sense
a power trip going on...

This has given me a much deeper appreciation of SG101.
This is really one of the nicest places online. This
is also one of the easiest and clear forums to
navigate. Thanks Brian for creating such a good
atmosphere and giving us this outlet for our obsession!

I have been a member of garagepunk hideout for some time now. Honestly, I have never had any problem such as yours. On the other hand, I have found little bennefit from being a member of the forum. I really think most of the people on there are of a much different mindset as to the meaning of the term 'garage'. There is also a LOT of ego on that board. While I did do some promotion for our EP on there, I did not find much benefit from the work. For the surf audience, SG101 really seems to be the place to go. While every person out there who is into the genre might not be on here, there is a huge representation of the community as a whole.

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What he said^^;)

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I strongly agree that this forum is a wonderful resource, well managed, and that this has a lot to do with spirit in which Brian nurtures it.

I got started joining the GaragePunk Hideout a while back, and keep meaning to get back to it, but I have never really done anything with it. It seems like a potentially useful resource from a distance, anyway. They send out a a fair number of off-forum notices, which is fine but not necessary. The notices do at least help remind me that I never really got back to it.

Garage rock is of interest to me because experiences here have led me to start thinking of (early) surf music as a kind of early variant of it, a somewhat regional form maybe. In fact, before exposure to this forum I wasn't really aware of garage rock as anything but a label applied to some collections.

Anyway, I hope eventually to use the GaragePunk Hideout to figure out the difference between garage and garage punk, which is something that has been puzzling me now for a year or two. Mainly in terms of local groups. At first I sort of vaguely assumed that garage and garage punk were the same thing. I think I may have been confused. I have several theories about what the difference might be, if there really is one, most of which amount to "garage punk is sort of a third or fourth wave revival of garage, with very punk sensibilities." Or maybe it's more a case of punk music asserting that garage rock is its unique spiritual ancestor, in which case maybe there isn't much of a real connection.

Last edited: Oct 24, 2011 14:46:05

Also, Surf music makes us better (as) people. Cheers
Thank you Brian for this great place.

It really is amazing how much more polite it is here than on other forums. Even the occasional shit-flinging seems a lot less shit-flingy than it can elsewhere.

That was excessively violent and completely unnecessary. I loved it.

Tuck wrote:

Anyway, I hope eventually to use the GaragePunk Hideout
to figure out the difference between garage and garage
punk, which is something that has been puzzling me now
for a year or two. Mainly in terms of local groups.
At first I sort of vaguely assumed that garage and
garage punk were the same thing.

Tuck, for the record what is called Garage or Garage Punk today wasn't called this in the 60's when this music sprung forth. Because of the internet nowadays so-called "experts" like to put things in neat little categories and label and sub-label this stuff. Garage or Garage Punk is just Rock & Roll played mainly by American kids in the mid-60's inspired by The Stones, Them, and The Yardbirds and yes the Beatles! They (with a some exceptions) mostly recorded 45 singles and disappeared. In 1972 Lenny Kaye put out his "Nuggets" collection of this stuff and thus aficionados of this genre started calling it Garage Music or Garage Punk. In the 70's it influenced British Punk Rockers The Sex Pistols and American Punks The Ramones and made a minor comeback in the 80’s, especially in LA and New York, and again a few years later with The Hives and the Strokes. That's it in a nutshell but it’s not Gospel, it’s just Rock & Roll.

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Last edited: Oct 24, 2011 22:33:00

Wa have a page on Garage Punk Hideout, we even put a track on one of the comp that got release (only for download) lately. I've never had any problem whatsoever there.

But I also agree that SG101 is an excellent forum. Maybe because it's more a community than simply people discussing their interest online...

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shivers13 wrote:

Tuck wrote:

Anyway, I hope eventually to use the GaragePunk
Hideout
to figure out the difference between garage and
garage
punk, which is something that has been puzzling me
now
for a year or two. Mainly in terms of local groups.

At first I sort of vaguely assumed that garage and
garage punk were the same thing.

Tuck, for the record what is called Garage or Garage
Punk today wasn't called this in the 60's when this
music sprung forth. Because of the internet nowadays
so-called "experts" like to put things in neat little
categories and label and sub-label this stuff. Garage
or Garage Punk is just Rock & Roll played mainly by
American kids in the mid-60's inspired by The Stones,
Them, and The Yardbirds and yes the Beatles! They
(with a some exceptions) mostly recorded 45 singles and
disappeared. In 1972 Lenny Kaye put out his "Nuggets"
collection of this stuff and thus aficionados of this
genre started calling it Garage Music or Garage Punk.
In the 70's it influenced British Punk Rockers The Sex
Pistols and American Punks The Ramones and made a minor
comeback in the 80’s, especially in LA and New York,
and again a few years later with The Hives and the
Strokes. That's it in a nutshell but it’s not Gospel,
it’s just Rock & Roll.

Also there's an electronic subgenre called Garage so the "punk" helps distinguish between the two

Storm Surge of Reverb: Surf & Instro Radio

I liked the old format of the Garage Punk Hideout, it was more like this one and I actually would read the forums from time to time. The current format is too clumsy to navigate so I don't spend too much time on there anymore.
Never been harassed for promoting shows or anything on there though, that's a shame.

I do like a lot of their podcasts though.

Paul
Atomic Mosquitos
Bug music for bug people is here!
Killers from Space

shivers13 wrote:

Tuck, for the record what is called Garage or Garage
Punk today wasn't called this in the 60's when this
music sprung forth.

My recollection is that we just called it music with a footnote that it was an American band. There was a tendency to call it rock vs. rock & roll which implied things before the British Invasion and even before Payola Pop. I really wasn't very aware of most of this music before the very late 60s when it was already a few years old. I had a somewhat sheltered upbringing. Later, when I started finding collections of mostly pretty well known stuff called "garage" - mostly the (original 2 disk) Nuggets collection, in fact - I didn't take the term very seriously, and I didn't realize how extensive a body of less well known material there was. (Ditto for surf.)

I gather from what people are saying that "garage punk" is supposed to be synonymous with "garage." However, I have the impression that people who call something "garage punk" are mostly practicioners of "new garage punk music," which to me tends to sound very punk-influenced. Sometimes it's good, but mostly when it succeeds as punk. It's all very loud, all the time, without much sense of arrangement. I'm probably just listening to the wrong (new) bands. The ham-fisted ones.

psychonaut wrote:

So I joined the garagepunk hideout because it seemed
like a cool site. I commited it seems the unforgivable
crime of trying to promote our new album there. My
post was deleted and I recieved a really rude and
abrassive reprimand from the moderator accusing me of
spamming and threatening me with banishment. Wow... I
sent him a very polite and apologetic email to which I
recieved an even ruder response. Thing is I've met
this guy before in person and got on ok with him, and
he was aware it was me when this all happened. I sense
a power trip going on...

This has given me a much deeper appreciation of SG101.
This is really one of the nicest places online. This
is also one of the easiest and clear forums to
navigate. Thanks Brian for creating such a good
atmosphere and giving us this outlet for our obsession!

I've always been meaning to go there and look around,
but have never gotten around to it.
I asked Kristena and Sean to post about the SG101 conventions on there,
and a few other Garage Forums, but not sure how much attention it got.

I have heard that there is some egos over there, and some people don't like it, or use it because of the "hipsters" on that forum.

I've always thought it was quite hilarious how "cooler and better"
the garage crowd has thought of themselves over the surf crowd.
I'm sure they are "cooler and better", but to THINK that of of yerself,
how self righteous. silly.

I like surf, because I like it,period.
not to show off, and be like "oh, this is underground, and the general
public doesn't get it, and that makes us better".

I like (some) Garage, but it has to be decent songs, and not overly
crappy sounding recordings. Same goes for surf too.
But I would never want to have to rely on the Garage crowd for keeping the surf scene alive.
Yes there is some crossover, and that is fine.
but I think the Garage crowd can be very snobby.

Jeff(bigtikidude)

Last edited: Oct 25, 2011 16:39:02

bigtikidude wrote:

psychonaut wrote:

So I joined the garagepunk hideout because it seemed
like a cool site. I commited it seems the
unforgivable
crime of trying to promote our new album there. My
post was deleted and I recieved a really rude and
abrassive reprimand from the moderator accusing me
of
spamming and threatening me with banishment. Wow...
I
sent him a very polite and apologetic email to which
I
recieved an even ruder response. Thing is I've met
this guy before in person and got on ok with him,
and
he was aware it was me when this all happened. I
sense
a power trip going on...

This has given me a much deeper appreciation of
SG101.
This is really one of the nicest places online.
This
is also one of the easiest and clear forums to
navigate. Thanks Brian for creating such a good
atmosphere and giving us this outlet for our
obsession!

I've always been meaning to go there and look around,
but have never gotten around to it.
I asked Kristena and Sean to post about the SG101
conventions on there,
and a few other Garage Forums, but not sure how much
attention it got.

I have heard that there is some egos over there, and
some people don't like it, or use it because of the
"hipsters" on that forum.

I've always thought it was quite hilarious how "cooler
and better"
the garage crowd has thought of themselves over the
surf crowd.
I'm sure they are "cooler and better", but to THINK
that of of yerself,
how self righteous. silly.

I like surf, because I like it,period.
not to show off, and be like "oh, this is underground,
and the general
public doesn't get it, and that makes us better".

I like (some) Garage, but it has to be decent songs,
and not overly
crappy sounding recordings. Same goes for surf too.
But I would never want to have to rely on the Garage
crowd for keeping the surf scene alive.
Yes there is some crossover, and that is fine.
but I think the Garage crowd can be very snobby.

I play surf music because of how much cooler it obviously makes me in the hipsters eyes. There is no level of prestige like that that comes from playing in an instro surf band. The world immediatly treats you like a rock star. ;)

THE KBK ... This is the last known signal. We offer Sanctuary.

www.thekbk.com
http://www.deepeddy.net/artists/thekbk/
www.reverbnation.com/thekbk
www.facebook.com/thekbkal

you forgot these:
Whatever Uh-Oh Zzzzz
and
Dead Thread Duh Face Palm Fight Hmmm Picard Face Palm ROTFL Stir the Pot Stuff Hits the Fan

and of course, the best one
SG101!

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