Snufkino
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Posted on Mar 18 2011 01:44 PM
I picked up one of these the other week; A fridgebuzzz Electronics Land of the Rising Fuzz, a clone of the Shin Ei Companion.
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So I A/B'd it with the original I have!
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Once the tone control is rolled all the way off it sounds exactly like the original, and with the tone pushed up it can sound like a fuzzrite. really, really impressed with it. I was thinking about getting a Catalinbread Merkin fuzz but don't think it'll be worth while as the difference is probably going to be fairly negligable.
So what do you guys use for surf? I guess the shin-ei, fuzzrite, and maestro fuzz boxes of the 60's where the staple sound for a lot of classic surf tracks but are there any others?
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elreydlp
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Temecula, CA
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Posted on Mar 18 2011 02:20 PM
I just got an Ashbass Fuzzbrite (Fuzzrite clone) from norcalhodad that I'm very pleased with. My favorite fuzz is the Ibanez Tone Lok FZ-7. It's REALLY versatile and has some great settings-and I got it dirt cheap. I also like the EH "Little Big Muff Pi" and Fulltone Distortion Pro. I need to play around with the Fuzz setting on my ME-70 Multi-effects as well.
I'm using a Reverend Gil Parris Signature as my "Tele", and after reading Ryan's praise of the Strat middle pickup, I found that the Parris's Lace Sensor "Red" middle pickup is the s**t with all those boxes. Thanks Ruhar!
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Ruhar
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San Diego, CA
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Posted on Mar 18 2011 05:41 PM
I recently bought a Stomp Under Foot Hellephant fuzz which is based loosely off the Fuzz Face design. Its a really good fuzz. I don't use it a ton yet, but hopefully I'll find more use for it.
http://www.stompunderfoot.com/
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reventlos
Joined: May 23, 2006
Posts: 209
Costa Mesa
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Posted on Mar 18 2011 06:18 PM
I have one of those blue and orange Ibanez Super Fuzz pedals from the '70's (dubbed the "death machine"). It is SICK---so over the top that it's almost impossible to use live (you can hear it on the Reventlos' "Narcosis"). I used to have a red BC-108 Fuzz Face, but didn't use it much. I'd love to get an NKT-275 equipped pedal, but just haven't heard one yet that really captures the vibe. We love to fool with pedals, but at the end of the day, IMO, there's only a handful that really are useful in a live setting.
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CrispyGoodness
Joined: Apr 06, 2009
Posts: 565
North Cackalacky
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Posted on Mar 18 2011 06:39 PM
My main live fuzz is a reissue Ampeg Scrambler. Didn't seem like the ideal choice when I first got it, as it also does a number of octave and ring modulator tricks when set at certain points, but in the context of a band it works really well, offering a big, bright-sounding fuzz that cuts through the clatter without killing anyones' ear drums (well, unless your guitar is already uber-bright).
The Vexter Fuzz Factory is another good 'un, although you have to remember two things: One, the knob labeled "Stab" stands for Stability, not treble. Crank it for normal fuzz, turn it the other way for alien squeals and garbled Laotian radio transmissions. Two, keep your eyes on the volume knob, as this booger has enough output to blow out a speaker. If you get past those two obstacles, you've got yourself a pretty versatile fuzz that'll do everything from "Satisfaction" to early ZZ Top.
--Crispy
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Mar 18 2011 07:02 PM
reventlos wrote:
I have one of those blue and orange Ibanez Super Fuzz
pedals from the '70's (dubbed the "death machine"). It
is SICK---so over the top that it's almost impossible
to use live (you can hear it on the Reventlos'
"Narcosis"). I used to have a red BC-108 Fuzz Face,
but didn't use it much. I'd love to get an NKT-275
equipped pedal, but just haven't heard one yet that
really captures the vibe. We love to fool with pedals,
but at the end of the day, IMO, there's only a handful
that really are useful in a live setting.
That "Super Fuzz" sound must be what my FZ-7 does when I turn on the "Damage" switch! SICK!
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Snufkino
Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 228
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Posted on Mar 19 2011 05:39 AM
CrispyGoodness wrote:
My main live fuzz is a reissue Ampeg Scrambler.
Didn't seem like the ideal choice when I first got it,
as it also does a number of octave and ring modulator
tricks when set at certain points, but in the context
of a band it works really well, offering a big,
bright-sounding fuzz that cuts through the clatter
without killing anyones' ear drums (well, unless your
guitar is already uber-bright).
The Vexter Fuzz Factory is another good 'un,
although you have to remember two things: One, the
knob labeled "Stab" stands for Stability, not treble.
Crank it for normal fuzz, turn it the other way for
alien squeals and garbled Laotian radio transmissions.
Two, keep your eyes on the volume knob, as this booger
has enough output to blow out a speaker. If you get
past those two obstacles, you've got yourself a pretty
versatile fuzz that'll do everything from
"Satisfaction" to early ZZ Top.
--Crispy
Yeah, I've got a clone of an Ampeg Scrambler that I love. With the blend and texture dialled back to about noon it's got a nice, almost sitar-like fuzz tone to it.
I'm not a huge fan of fuzz-face style pedals, though of the ones I've tried, the plum crazy fuzzy lady was the best. Maybe not for surf though.
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Rossmosis
Joined: Jul 13, 2010
Posts: 180
Austin
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Posted on Mar 20 2011 09:19 PM
Wow, that Land Of The Rising Fuzzz pedal looks great! I already have an Ashbass Fuzzbrite but I'm looking for something similar that will clean up a little bit more and the LOTRF pedal seems like it might just do that for me in Mode 2. Do you have a Fuzzbrite or a Spaghetti Western fuzz that you could compare it to?
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Surfocaster
Joined: Jan 16, 2010
Posts: 214
Somerset, England
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Posted on Mar 21 2011 02:29 PM
What sort of surf are you playing with a fuzz? Fairly new to this so are there any classic tracks i can listen too featuring the fuzz?
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walls
Joined: Sep 16, 2010
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Posted on Mar 21 2011 08:14 PM
Surfocaster wrote:
What sort of surf are you playing with a fuzz? Fairly
new to this so are there any classic tracks i can
listen too featuring the fuzz?
The Ventures - The Creeper is one of my favorites.
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 10:25 AM
"Blues Theme" from "The Wild Angels" by Davie Allen and the Arrows. Not Surf, but ultra cool. They also do a cool instro version of "Shapes of Things to Come" from "Wild in the Streets". Of course, as "Max Frost & the Troopers", they also did the vocal version.
Davie played Mosrite guitars through a Mosrite Fuzzrite.
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GuitarBob
Joined: Jul 31, 2009
Posts: 139
Monterey, CA
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 12:33 PM
I played in a lounge act decades ago. When the other gtr. player took a solo he used one of those blue and orange Ibanez super fuzzes...even on slow VFW waltzes! Absolutely great singer but the dude's solos were out of control, he just couldn't play 'in the bag, man'.
I got an old cassette somewhere. Sounds like the attack of the giant bumblebees in the middle of 'Colour My World'.
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 02:14 PM
GuitarBob wrote:
I played in a lounge act decades ago.
"Murph and the Magictones"?
Sounds like the attack
of the giant bumblebees in the middle of 'Colour My
World'.
Wow! That's JUST the sound I've been looking for!
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jonfender
Joined: Mar 09, 2011
Posts: 273
Melbourne FL USA
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 02:49 PM
In the 60's, our band used a SAM ASH "Fuzz Tone"....(it has since gone to the "equipment in the sky" dept), but I can honestly recollect nothing EVER sounding as good as that unit. I know that's quite an endorsement, but I've used stuff since & and that one is still the best (IMO). It is a red, angled box with one knob & one stompbutton and if you can "stumble onto" one, don't hesitate to get it. Sam Ash should re-manufacture them.
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Surfocaster
Joined: Jan 16, 2010
Posts: 214
Somerset, England
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 04:02 PM
I checked out The Creeper which lead me to Bird Rockers. So thats what fuzz sounds like. I only own one distortion pedal and thats the Boss Blues Driver. The fuzzy Ventures tone sounds very much like the tone of Hanks guitar on The Shadows tune Maroc 7. What sort of pedal could I use to get close to the tone of The Atlantics version of Hawaii 50? My boss pedal doesnt seem to do anything like it. Cheers
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3864
North Atlantic
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 06:38 PM
I have an Ashbass Fuzzbrite. It nails the Davie Allan tone for me.
Rev
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awfulguitarnois
Joined: Feb 09, 2011
Posts: 38
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 07:30 PM
Mine isn't vintage, but it's really cool. It's a Radio Havana from Heavy Electronics (great builder in Minnesota). On most settings it sounds like a fuzz heard through an old AM radio... super lo-fi. On the crazier settings it does a bunch of frequency washing and sounds freaky. I love it... just really different. Here's a quick demo someone did (not me).
— I want less sustain. My notes are so tortured it seems only humane to let them die as quickly as possible.
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elreydlp
Joined: Sep 04, 2009
Posts: 1800
Temecula, CA
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Posted on Mar 22 2011 08:45 PM
Surfocaster wrote:
I checked out The Creeper which lead me to Bird
Rockers. So thats what fuzz sounds like. I only own one
distortion pedal and thats the Boss Blues Driver. The
fuzzy Ventures tone sounds very much like the tone of
Hanks guitar on The Shadows tune Maroc 7. What sort of
pedal could I use to get close to the tone of The
Atlantics version of Hawaii 50? My boss pedal doesnt
seem to do anything like it. Cheers
There are three distinct types of "Distortion" pedals-Overdrives, like your Blues Driver, the Boss OD-1, Ibanez TS-9-Distortions, like the MXR Distortion +, EH Big Muff Pi, and Boss DS-1-and Fuzzes, several of which are described in this thread. If you want fuzz, you gotta get a fuzz!
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Snufkino
Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 228
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Posted on Mar 24 2011 05:07 PM
Rossmosis wrote:
Wow, that Land Of The Rising Fuzzz pedal looks great! I
already have an Ashbass Fuzzbrite but I'm looking for
something similar that will clean up a little bit more
and the LOTRF pedal seems like it might just do that
for me in Mode 2. Do you have a Fuzzbrite or a
Spaghetti Western fuzz that you could compare it to?
Not sure how it would compare to a fuzzbrite, though I think the fuzzrite was the American take on the Shin Ei fuzz, so they're about the same. I think the fuzzrite might have a more slightly almost-but-not-quite touch of octave fuzz going on, but the Shin Ei can kind of almost do that too. Maybe just a touch more subtly. I'd love to try the Spaghettie fuzz too. Not sure what it's based on but I'll have a look.
As for the LotRF "cleaning up" in mode 2, I wouldn't bet on it Maybe mine is a bit fault but the mode 2 is pretty useless. Really muddy for some reason. I might email the builder about it just to check I don't have a faulty pedal, but I don't think so, as this type of fuzz just can't be "dialled out" or cleaned up like a fuzz face or similar.
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Brian
Joined: Feb 25, 2006
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Des Moines, Iowa, USA
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Posted on Mar 25 2011 04:46 PM
Snufkino wrote:
So what do you guys use for surf? I guess the shin-ei,
fuzzrite, and maestro fuzz boxes of the 60's where the
staple sound for a lot of classic surf tracks but are
there any others?
I don't think too many surf tracks featured fuzz. What classic surf tracks were you thinking of that featured fuzz? The Venture's 2000 LB Bee?
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