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Indian Melodies

Philippe Duhart (ortzaizeus) - 14 Feb 2002 11:57:13

I've been exposed to Indian music recently through a
class on Indian Religions and I must admit that I'm
completely drawn to the strange melodies. Does anyone
know what scales they tend to use? i'd love to learn
some of these. Thanks
Philippe
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urbansurfkings - 14 Feb 2002 12:36:24

--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Philippe Duhart <ortzaizeus@y...> wrote:
> I've been exposed to Indian music recently through a
> class on Indian Religions and I must admit that I'm
> completely drawn to the strange melodies. Does anyone
> know what scales they tend to use? i'd love to learn
> some of these. Thanks
> Philippe
>
I'm not sure what the scales are called, but they often involve
intervals smaller than a semi tone (a semi tone is the distance of 1
fret...like E to F). One would need a fretless guitar, or amazing
bending control to play accurately. I think the intervals involved
are quarter tones, and maybe even smaller ones.
Mike/ Urban Surf Kings

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mistereon - 14 Feb 2002 13:13:17

Try this site.
2 note to ten note scales. Type "exotic scales" into google too.
Have fun.

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Damon (dei77) - 14 Feb 2002 15:12:59

Phillipe,
I'm not to familiar with the microtonic (scales using
a more complex system different from our 12 tone
scale), but I use harmonic minors alot to get an
"Eastern" sound. You can hear a bunch of harmonic
minor scales on Dick Dales albums, songs like
"Missourlou" (sp?) and "Hava Nigilla" (sp?). You can
probably find them on the net somewhere.
Damon
--- Philippe Duhart <> wrote:
> I've been exposed to Indian music recently through a
> class on Indian Religions and I must admit that I'm
> completely drawn to the strange melodies. Does
> anyone
> know what scales they tend to use? i'd love to learn
> some of these. Thanks
> Philippe
>
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viktor423 - 23 Feb 2002 02:11:01

--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Damon <dei77@y...> wrote:
> Phillipe,
>
> I'm not to familiar with the microtonic (scales using
> a more complex system different from our 12 tone
> scale), but I use harmonic minors alot to get an
> "Eastern" sound. You can hear a bunch of harmonic
> minor scales on Dick Dales albums, songs like
> "Missourlou" (sp?) and "Hava Nigilla" (sp?). You can
> probably find them on the net somewhere.
>
> Damon
> --- Philippe Duhart <ortzaizeus@y...> wrote:
> > I've been exposed to Indian music recently through a
> > class on Indian Religions and I must admit that I'm
> > completely drawn to the strange melodies. Does
> > anyone
> > know what scales they tend to use? i'd love to learn
> > some of these. Thanks
> >
Philippe
I should keep this one secret but I can't resist sharing it.
Try this: Take a harmonic minor scale and raise the 4th degree by a
half step ; instead of 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-7, play 1-2-b3-#4-b6-7. This
will give you a 'snake charmer' type scale
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Damon (dei77) - 25 Feb 2002 10:42:45

Viktor,
I'm not familiar with this kind of scale notation. Is
the second scale (1-2-b3-#4-b6-7) only suppose to have
6 tones, ie no 5th note?
Damon
--- viktor423 <> wrote:
> I should keep this one secret but I can't resist
> sharing it.
> Try this: Take a harmonic minor scale and raise the
> 4th degree by a
> half step ; instead of 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-7, play
> 1-2-b3-#4-b6-7. This
> will give you a 'snake charmer' type scale
> > > Viktor
> > >
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viktor423 - 26 Feb 2002 17:17:39

Sorry, I left out the 5th. The notation refers to scale intervals.
Lets take a C harmonic minor for example: c d d# f g g# b c, fairly
exotic sounding, but by raising the fourth a halfstep you make it
even more exotic: c d d# f# g g# b c. Sorry for the confusion. Also,
The use of pedal drones helps to make it eastern
sounding.
Viktor
--- In SurfGuitar101@y..., Damon <dei77@y...> wrote:
> Viktor,
>
> I'm not familiar with this kind of scale notation. Is
> the second scale (1-2-b3-#4-b6-7) only suppose to have
> 6 tones, ie no 5th note?
>
> Damon
> --- viktor423 <vd423@y...> wrote:
> > I should keep this one secret but I can't resist
> > sharing it.
> > Try this: Take a harmonic minor scale and raise the
> > 4th degree by a
> > half step ; instead of 1-2-b3-4-5-b6-7, play
> > 1-2-b3-#4-b6-7. This
> > will give you a 'snake charmer' type scale
> > > > Viktor
> > > >
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Damon (dei77) - 27 Feb 2002 10:50:33

Instead of pedal drones, I use drone strings like a
sytar. I tune down my low E to harmonize better with
the A then run my harmonic minors on the A (I do this
to my acoustic all the time, sounds great with a slide
or an ebow for some spacey sounds before you get your
surf on). I kinda discovered the scale you're
describing by accident (I thought I was just jazzing
it up by dancing arround the key using an open
tuning). It sounds really cool when you switch back
and forth between the scales if you have your bassist
or guitarist outline/play the corresponding chords.
--- viktor423 <> wrote:
c d d# f# g g# b c
Does this scale have a name? I don't really care, my
bassist does though and claims that everything that
you can done on a guitar has a name to help us all
stay on the same page(kinda annoying huh - I just
remember the shapes).
Damon
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urbansurfkings - 27 Feb 2002 12:36:54

c d d# f# g g# b c
Does this scale have a name?
C harmonic minor (#4,b6)...it's an altered scale. Lay that one on
your bass player;)

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