Watched the video last night... what a piece of sh*t.
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Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 1570 New York |
Watched the video last night... what a piece of sh*t. |
Joined: Feb 25, 2006 Posts: 19194 Des Moines, Iowa, USA |
Well we are indeed quite capable of making something as small as a pedal have a lot of computing power, its just that no one will want to pay $5000 for a pedal when you can still buy a real reverb unit for $500. Well, some people might want that, but I don't think the general market could support it. —Site dude - S3 Agent #202 "It starts... when it begins" -- Ralf Kilauea |
Joined: Sep 27, 2008 Posts: 1149 Damascus, Maryland |
Are we comparing it to a tank, or to another pedal here? We all agree that a tank is the way to go, but how does it sound compared to the digiverb/grail/insert other pedal here?? Some of us are still stuck using "cheap" pedals instead of making the jump to a tank. (of course, if I don't go to the convention I could buy a tank. Decisions.....decisions. ) —Will "You're done, once you're a surfer you're done. You're in. It's like the mob or something. You're not getting out." - Kelly Slater |
Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 1570 New York |
I think I have made a decision to add to my credit card debt and purchase a reverb tank finally. Excited! |
Joined: Nov 09, 2008 Posts: 1140 Davenport Iowa |
I dont think its an alternitive to the tank, just something that someone that wouldent buy a tank would use. Want more verb than the RV3 but hundreds less than the tank. Its a good thing to have on the market. I still stand buy that it sounds like a RI tank, bright and thin The surf portion of the video is bogus anyways....we cant argue yet untill we get a good clip or someone trys the thing. Do i think it will suck.....yes Give me reverb or give me death! |
Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 1570 New York |
I agree with Scot in that, I am thinking it will have the edge over the simulated reverb effect pedal market. |
Joined: Dec 23, 2008 Posts: 3324 Pittsboro, NC |
Good on you, reverb comes first! Tell the family to quit complaining and eat PBJ's for about a month! — |
Joined: Aug 27, 2008 Posts: 1570 New York |
Haha - It is just the wife and I. She can just NOT buy any new clothing for the next few months and then we will be even. |
Joined: Feb 02, 2008 Posts: 4124 Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ. |
Something like this pedal makes sense for a lot of people, people that are not primarily Surf players but want to be able to cover Surf and thereby want an external reverb. I can't imagine it being as good as the real thing but it's probably good enough for someone with a casual interest in Surf. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. Last edited: Aug 01, 2009 13:26:32 |
Joined: Nov 09, 2008 Posts: 1140 Davenport Iowa |
exactly —Give me reverb or give me death! |
Joined: Dec 01, 2008 Posts: 9 Eastern NC |
Well, the pedal wasn't that impressive. I can get a MUCH better surf tone from either my Line6 Guitarport or Digitech RP350. (I don't play out so a "real" reverb unit isn't in the budget, and the 350 while not being perfect, has enough drip for my needs). As for using a G&L? I don't think the guitar was at fault. He was using an older Legacy or possibly a Fullerton model. My Legacy is the one piece of gear I have that is without doubt certified as "surf worthy". I've yet to find a Strat that I'd consider trading for at any price point. The Fullerton models are by all accounts as close as you can get to a pre-CBS Strat without taking out a second mortgage. He seemed to be working at getting a crappy tone, right down to pickup position. While the guy obviously has some chops, (the country stuff, while being soulless and generic in the modern Gnashville tradition, was still well played), even I could have turned in a more inspired performance on the surf stuff. —"Work hard, rock hard, eat hard, sleep hard... grow big... wear glasses if you need 'em." |
Joined: Aug 12, 2006 Posts: 77 |
i was shocked by the demo. trovato is a guitar-god! but he seems to dislike surf.... —www.myspace.com/captaintwangandhisrhythmcat |
Joined: Apr 06, 2009 Posts: 81 |
Uma Floresta is right... the pedal will lack processing power. Him and I are 'drip addicts' - (that sounds so dodgy). If it ain't got drip, then for me that's half the relevance of surf reverb gone. My advice is that if you don't/can't get a outboard '63 tank, then simply add an accutronics tank to a second-hand danelectro spring-king. Mine sounds amazingly good... I guess the Boss stompbox will be 100$, whereas my setup will be probably go for between 150 and 200$. not much difference considering the authenticity. As an |
Joined: May 27, 2007 Posts: 254 Madrid, Spain |
That's not necessary true. Home computers (PCs, Macs, and so on) have a common purpose processor (usually a Intel x86 derivated). Moreover, your computer runs a common purpose operating system, and the modeling software must "live" together with many other (a myriad indeed) processes (programs in execution) that also need CPU time. Such a pedal would be a specific purpose device, an embedded system (a dedicated machine). It should not use a common purpose processor to do the job. There are another kinds of processors, called DSPs, that are tailored for signal processing (its architecture includes special instructions for stream processing, signal manipulation, etc). In addition, the modeling software running in this device "lives alone", there are not more processes to deal with, and it doesn't even need any system software to run over it. Multiple devices use DSPs (mobile phones, etc.), included, of course, the modeling amps, hybrid amps, and digital effects. You are comparing apples and pears my friends. Q |
Joined: Apr 15, 2008 Posts: 1281 |
Well, I'm happy to be wrong - I'd love for the Amplitube software to be available in pedal form. — |
Joined: Sep 15, 2008 Posts: 69 Kirkkonummi |
Yes - and Boss already did an excellent job on the RE-20 Space Echo pedal. The Fender Reverb pedal might or might not be good. We'll see... I'm actually quite interested in the thang. I use an Uraltone (finnish hand-made) tube reverb, so even when my current reverb is very good, this might bring some new tones to my repertoire. —It's go-go, not cry-cry. |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
The RE-20 isn't that great. I have one, Just doesn't sound like the real deal. not a bad pedal, just doesn't sound like what it tries to emulate. |
Joined: Feb 25, 2008 Posts: 321 Canada's Wet Coast |
Jake, other than the RE201 it's trying to recreate, is it trying to emulate an Echoplex? —Mel |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
No, just the Space Echo. I could only get it to work with one song. If I had to do it again I would have bought the Guyatone Flip Echo or an Akai Headrush II. |
Joined: Sep 15, 2008 Posts: 69 Kirkkonummi |
Yes, the RE-20 pedal seems to get two opposite opinions. I know some people who hate it fiercely, and then again some very demanding tape echo users who have swithced to using the pedal when playing live. I have one and find it useful. To my ear it even resembles the real thing, or the one I mostly heard at the time when I got the RE-20. Never did an A/B test though. —It's go-go, not cry-cry. |