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kick_the_reverb wrote:

Having a few guitars set up as baritones with 30 ish scale length, I have a feeling that you would be better satisfied with a 28 ish scale length. I am basing this around my experience with comparing the harmonic content to my 25.5 JM tuned down a step. The 30" scale length has much more of the fundamental note which leaves the overall tome a bit lacking for my taste.
Also historic examples - Jet Harris recorded "Diamonds" on a detuned Jaguar. Compare that to the tone of the Bass VI in " The Man with the Golden Arm".

YMMV
Good luck,
Ran

Interesting. Thanks!

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Thanks to everyone for your input! I appreciate all your advice. And I promise not to ask another gear question for a while. Big Grin

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Last edited: Jul 05, 2019 08:51:58

Noel, I have a Gretsch Electromatic guitar with two of their humbuckers and one thing I'd recommend is, if you find the neck+bridge position to sound too similar to the neck position alone as I did, that you reverse the wiring to one of the pickups (easy to do at the selector switch) to put them out of phase in the middle position. Like Peter Green. This yields three satisfactorily unique tones.

You do have to separate the pickup's chassis ground from the negative lead, though. They ground the pickups through that lead so if you reverse it, the guitar chassis becomes hot. It doesn't shock you--it just buzzes really loud when you touch anything metal on it.

Interesting. I haven't experienced this. After I found the sound I wanted through my Ennio Trilogy Fuzz, I haven't looked back. I'm hoping for the same with their Baritone.

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Redfeather wrote:

Noel, I have a Gretsch Electromatic guitar with two of their humbuckers and one thing I'd recommend is, if you find the neck+bridge position to sound too similar to the neck position alone as I did, that you reverse the wiring to one of the pickups (easy to do at the selector switch) to put them out of phase in the middle position. Like Peter Green. This yields three satisfactorily unique tones.

You do have to separate the pickup's chassis ground from the negative lead, though. They ground the pickups through that lead so if you reverse it, the guitar chassis becomes hot. It doesn't shock you--it just buzzes really loud when you touch anything metal on it.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

I've had a bunch of baritones over the years. As long as they play well, I find most baritones pretty similar tonally. Right now I'm using a reissue Danelectro Dead-On 67 Baritone like this one, but in Cobalt Blue:

Old Reverb Link but sold

Pianos 'N Stuff lists this under used basses for $259.99, but the picture shows the guitar version. Might check with them though to make sure; they might have put up some incorrect stock pics:
Dano Dead-On '67

I like mine - it has tremelo, plays good, sounds good, and they are generally reasonably priced.

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DaveMudgett wrote:

I've had a bunch of baritones over the years...

Since this came up, who else uses a baritone guitar your music? I know Stephen Ulrich of Big Lazy regularly uses one. So does Mike Vivisector of The Vivisectors.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Who am I to stop someone from acquiring another instrument, but I sold my Danelectro Bari after trying a Digitech "The Drop" pedal. Sounds great through a clean fender amp with reverb, tracks quickly, the interval is adjustable, and it can be used on any of my guitars, fixed bridge or trem. I'm sure this pedal was conceived and marketed with drop-tuned metal in mind, but it serves perfectly well for bari sounds.

Since this came up, who else uses a baritone guitar your music? I know Stephen Ulrich of Big Lazy regularly uses one. So does Mike Vivisector of The Vivisectors.

We've recorded a # of songs using a baritone on our 2 CD's.
We have a new CD coming out at the end of the month with 2 more baritone songs, including a version of Brian Wilson's "Pet Sounds".
Here is our version of Jet Harris' "Man From Nowhere" from out last CD Surfin The Silver Screen.
Man From Nowhere

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Another baritone tack from our first CD.
The Last Race

I recorded these on a guitar I built myself back in 1997. Back then if you wanted a baritone, your only choices were vinatge Danelectros or Bass VI's.

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Reverb17 wrote:

Since this came up, who else uses a baritone guitar your music? I know Stephen Ulrich of Big Lazy regularly uses one. So does Mike Vivisector of The Vivisectors.

We've recorded a # of songs using a baritone on out 2 CD's.
We have a new CD coming out at the end of the month with 2 more baritone songs, including a version of Brian Wilson's "Pet Sounds".
Here is our version of Jet Harris' "Man From Nowhere" from out last CD Surfin The Silver Screen.
Man From Nowhere

I've had Silver Screen quite a while, and it's terrific! "Man From Nowhere" is on my list. I was gonna play it on my Bass VI, but it looks like the Gretsch bari will be better suited. Yours sounds just right. I hope the Gretsch does.

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

I just ran across this track on Youtube, which features a baritone really well:

Redfeather wrote:

I just ran across this track on Youtube, which features a baritone really well:

Great find!

1978
1 Saigo no Rakuen - music by Haruomi Hosono
2 Coral Reef - music by Shigeru Suzuki
3 Nostalgia of Island - music by Tatsuro Yamashita
4 Slack Key Rhumba - music by H. Hosono
5 Passion Flower - music by S. Suzuki
6 Noa Noah - music by S. Suzuki
7 Kiska - music by T. Yamashita
8 Cosmic Surfin - music by H. Hosono

Guitar - Shigeru Suzuki(Happy End), Kenji Ohmura, Tatsuro Yamashita
Bass - Haruomi Hosono(YMO/Happy End)
Drums - Yukihiro Takahashi(YMO), Tatuo Hayashi, Shuichi Ponta Murakami
Percussions - Motoya Hamaguchi, Nobu Saito
keyboards - Ryuichi Sakamoto(YMO), Masataka Matsutoya(Yumin's husband), Jun Sato
Flute - Motoya Hamaguch
Sax - HIdefumi Toki
Vocal & Chorus - Tatsuro Yamashita

Producer - Masatoshi Sakai

This is Noel. Reverb's at maximum an' I'm givin' 'er all she's got.

Last edited: Jul 13, 2019 07:18:49

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