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ok so i've never recorded anything with any kind of recorder except maybe a camera but me and my buddies are thining of buying a Fostex MR8HD 8-Track Digital Recorder , to record our band, i figure its easy just mic the guitar and bass amp and the drums, fix the audio levels and press record . is this correct? or are the other steps... sorry im such a nub hahaha

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well, there's more to it, but it obvously comes with an instruction manual, so you'll be able to figure it out. i'm pretty sure that's what we use, but i don't own it, my bassist does, so i'm not 100% sure. it is pretty easy to use, but not that simple.

and micing is crucial, especially in the drums, you'll probably want to run those through a small mixer before it goes straight into the recorder, and be real careful about the snare, that thing is a bitch to get a good sound out of while trying to keep the extra rattle to a minimum, and in general is really difficult to mix if you have no real experience with it. IMO the hardest part of recording is getting all the audio levels and such good if you're recording altogether; if everything is separate, you can worry about all that later, otherwise after you record it's too late to change much.

recording is a learning experience, you probably won't get it down right the first time. hell, we've recorded probably 3-4 different times using different methods with that digital recorder and have yet to be real satisfied, but we are definetely getting closer. how you do it is up to you and how you think would be easiest.

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hey thanks for the advice, yea we're not really trying to record something really hiigh quality, somethin just pretty much like to recrod some demos and stuff. what kind of mics would u recommend, somethin good quality but also affordable because we're kinda ina budget, what i was gonna do was just have one mic for the bass, one for the guitar, and one for the drumms hahaha but i guess we'll need somethin else, and yea i got a little Radio shack mixer that was given to me hope it works for it.

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alright, here's my opinion, not that it matters too much.

I also have an 8-track digital recorder by Fostek, it's a bit older though, probably not the same model. all you really need is to get 2-3 decent mics. I would go ahead and spend the little extra money and get yourself at least one "Shure SM57" ($99-ish). This microphone will be very good at recording guitar and/or bass, snare drum, and overhead cymbals. I'd also buy a mic designed for your kick drum and other low frequency instruments (bass guitar), although I've never used one personally I'm reading good things about the "Audix F-12" ($80-ish).

If you want a good sounding demo I'd recommend doing a scratch track, one mic in the room as the whole band plays. Then recording each instrument individually playing along with the scratch track via headphones. Once you get the song recorded by each individual instrument delete the scratch track and you're down to the mixing aspect of things. You have 8 tracks after all, you might as well use them.

I always find the drums are the hardest thing to get to sound good, everything else depends on the tone coming out of the amp the most, but drums really play on the acoustics of the room. Don't be afraid to move mics around the room and record little bits and clips of the drums until you get the sound you like.

It's all about experimenting with mics and positions though, good luck.

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hey thanks a lot! i was wondering how they did that! thanks for helping me out . im really intersted in this kind of stuff, and i was thinking of getting a class on home recording at the local community college. so what's this about lower frequency mics for the bass amp? can anyone tell me what they are? oh and also i've seen some guitar amp mics for sale on musiciansfriend.com but seem rather expensive... what's the diffrence?

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The quick and dirty recording mic primer:

Guitar
SM57, C-1000

Bass/Bass Drum
D-112, RE-20, Beta 52

Drums close mic'd
SM-57

Drums overhead
C-1000

With these, you can do wonders......ed

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thanks a lot!!!

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