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So we're getting all geared up. Recording date set, cover artist lined up, this is going to be great!

Then I talk the the pressing plant and they're like "a year+ turnaround time."

so what's a band to do? just wait it out? release it digitally early and then try to make another "release" when the record is done? give up and just make CDs?

I'm curious what other folks are doing.

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When The’ Verb pressed a vinyl lp we started with a certain date for shipment that later got pushed back multiple times by big record companies jumping the line. It ended up taking over a year longer than estimated. So, at least they’re telling you a year plus now.

All that being said, having the records pressed on vinyl is cool and people like buying them. Other people have definitely had better luck than we did.

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Maybe find another pressing house? We just got one here in NO a few years ago, and their turnaround isn't nearly as long. My pal got his LP done in a few weeks!

But you know what? It will be worth the wait! It's been a life's dream for me to appear on vinyl, so I say wait it out. Fans will understand, unless they're jerks.

Maybe even offer some kind of incentive, a digital version now, with a vinyl to come? You can explain the situation to your buyers. I certainly would wait if I wanted that plastic!

Daniel Deathtide

That’s great to hear! It was a few years ago after several pressing houses had closed causing everyone to press vinyl at just a few locations. I’m glad some are opening up again.

-Eric

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Most everyone is getting In line and waiting.

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CDs are the new cassettes. Affordable, quick turn around time, and shiny. If you want it out sooner than later, CDs are the way to go. We sell a lot of CDs at shows.

Rev

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I agree with Mike. Smile

We just sold the last of our vinyl EP at a german show tonight (the first since the Covid Lock Down, yippee ya yeah and have 4 more shows coming in the next weeks!)

Back to topic... Vinyl pressing is a big problem at the moment. All musicians had a lot of time to write and record new songs.

But CD's are the new retro. I can garantee you that CD's are the new vintage! They don't cost much, are delivered in a couple of weeks and you can play them on your playstation (wich I'm told, am a PC gamer myself).

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Just a follow up that here in January 2022, the timelines are no better, if not worse. In speaking with Cascade in Portland recently about the current landscape, they didn't have good news at all. Covid related cardboard shortages, totally unpredictable and long shipping delays, etc. When will our new record see the light of day in vinyl form? Who knows... Even the likes of Taylor Swift put out her latest release on CD / streaming well before the vinyl.

Skins for The Delstroyers

While cool as hell, vinyl is a money losing venture for the most part, unless you are ordering mass quantities or re-pressing. I'll always go down that path regardless though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpNj60awEiM

Having just released our first vinyl record, maybe we are the lucky ones, but it took us 5 weeks from start to finish to receive our vinyl records. 180g, quality sleeve, etc. I think it was mentioned to hunt around for a service, that is what we did and got our records in just over a month. Don't know if we were lucky, but it is possible. As far as the uptake/sell through, we have sold almost 50% of our inventory in less than two weeks. Vinyl really does sell.

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That is impressive! May I ask what pressing plant you used?

OnedinGiraldo wrote:

Having just released our first vinyl record, maybe we are the lucky ones, but it took us 5 weeks from start to finish to receive our vinyl records. 180g, quality sleeve, etc. I think it was mentioned to hunt around for a service, that is what we did and got our records in just over a month. Don't know if we were lucky, but it is possible. As far as the uptake/sell through, we have sold almost 50% of our inventory in less than two weeks. Vinyl really does sell.

Matt Heaton & the Electric Heaters
"Dick Dale meets Dennis Lehane"
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Toneschaser wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bpNj60awEiM

It's funny that he doesn't elaborate on this at all. Majors see vinyl as a fad and so they make huge orders to jump the lines at independent pressing plants, pushing back independent artists. None of them have their own plants. Some pressing plants are turning away majors out of principle. I know Waxwork records here in New Orleans got fed up and just opened their own pressing plant.

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Ya, people are resorting to things like that. For smaller numbers, you can get them sooner too, if you're willing to pay a premium to do so. We ended up going with the fine folks at United Record Pressing down in Nashville, TN for our latest. They've been in business since 1949 and probably aren't going to disappear tomorrow. We put in our order at the end of February with an estimated arrival of 3rd quarter.

Skins for The Delstroyers

In fairness, I feel like all of surf music is cool as hell and money losing! why not go whole hog? Big Grin

Toneschaser wrote:

While cool as hell, vinyl is a money losing venture for the most part, unless you are ordering mass quantities or re-pressing. I'll always go down that path regardless though.

Matt Heaton & the Electric Heaters
"Dick Dale meets Dennis Lehane"
http://www.heatonsurf.com

I’ve done all our records at United in Nashville as well. Mostly good experiences with them. Any problem I had was rectified (a horrendous test pressing, but that’s why test pressings are important).

Rev

Haven’t lost any money on vinyl…yet.

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Last edited: Mar 25, 2022 08:31:14

The gorillas did a vinyl 45, it was worth it and cool to have but the expenditure is super high comparatively speaking to CDs or just digital. If we were to do it again I'd pick some songs that were going to be special release (not releasing in any other format) and just release other stuff in other formats in the mean time and then whenever the vinyl shows up, do a special release then. We had ours pressed before the big crush/delay (think it was American Vinyl in NC, in 2020), so from that perspective we dodged the question - but we have songs in the can right now that we're going to release so the vinyl question did raise it's head again.

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Here's a vinyl question for those who have done this. How different is the sound quality between a 7 inch done at 45rpm and one at 33 rpm? I have both in my collection, and the difference isn't that big from what I hear. Just asking because we may be doing a 4 song ep at 33rpm due to song lengths. All our previous 7" were 45 rpm.

Rev

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Objectively the 45 will be capable of higher fidelity and greater dynamic range, but like you said in practice it may not be that noticeable. Sound quality is dependent on so many factors that it's hard to recommend one way or another without consideration of other factors (the mastering, budget, etc.) I have this 7" compilation where sides C and D are surf/instrumental at 33, no complaints from me.

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