Surfing_Sam_61
Joined: Jan 15, 2019
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Posted on Mar 19 2019 02:16 PM
There is a guy that did a shoot out with pedals 2 + 3 you mentioned -
I think the amp has a lot to do with getting better drip as well. Because on my Avid Rack Eleven emulator I tried all kinds of setups with tank reverb and finally found one that is pretty drippy for a modeled sound rig set up. All I changed was the amp and bang it drips great - all the other settings were the same - so its definitely that amp too that gets you surfing. It might be flanging that gets you there as well. There is a modeled flange pedal in the loop and it has like 6 settings to adjust which I never saw before on a real Flange pedal or remember. But Tank reverb must have to be matched to a fairly decent amp to get that classic drip sound evidently. I'm leaning toward the Surfy Bear being it has a real tank in the mix, it think that might be a big art of it, the springs have to be different in tension and you have to have a really good speaker amp to get the drip right, I'm convinced that's part of it the two work together synergistically.
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Ringo
Joined: Feb 15, 2019
Posts: 46
USA
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Posted on Mar 19 2019 02:29 PM
Yeah, there's no question that amplifiers themselves can play a potential role in it all, but it quickly gets well over my pay-grade, and far too time-consuming to be any fun. Some amps are inherently dark, while some are bright, some are overdriven easier than others, some have a fair bit of sag, while others are rather rigid, and so on. I just try to stick with a conventional tube-rectified (American) 6V6/6L6 platform (not one of the EL84/EL34 British types), and a relatively bright (high-efficiency) ceramic (not alnico) speaker. That general combination of components seems to get it done for me.
— "Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit them with it." - Boris the Blade
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4108
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Mar 20 2019 12:05 AM
Ringo wrote:
I've got a '63 Reissue outboard (circa 2007) that is my go-to device for classic surf reverb, but it was acting up on me here recently, so I went to the trouble and cost of buying virtually every known alternative, just for grins, knowing that I could sell either or all of them afterwards if I needed to. That included the following three devices:
1) SurfyBear Classic
2) Boss FRV-1
3) CatalinBread Topanga
I've since resolved the issue with my '63 outboard, and it remains my go-to, more than ever, and I'll admit that what follows here is no more than my own personal opinion, but after putting them all through their paces, if I couldn't locate or afford a '63 outboard, my vote would be for the CatalinBread Topanga. Its subtle, and arguably a rather subjective evaluation, but as small and as cost-effective as it is, the Topanga is the closest of the three in overall sound (splash and drip), to my '63 Reissue outboard.
I find it interesting that you like the Topanga so much. I’ve tried a lot of reverb pedals and there are a number I really like, but the Topanga sounds the best to my ear, and considering that it’s been around for a while, all I can say is that the folks at Catalinbread did a good job.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Toneschaser
Joined: Jun 14, 2012
Posts: 462
Ohio!
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Posted on Mar 20 2019 09:17 AM
DeathTide wrote:
Wow. A combo amp with a dwell knob!???!!!!
Some do! My Tone King Meteor basically has a 6G15 built in. Dwell on the top panel, tone and mix on the back. All tube, sounds wonderful!
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SHADOWNIGHT5150
Joined: Jul 14, 2013
Posts: 317
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Posted on Mar 27 2019 01:54 PM
But does the element drip?
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4108
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Mar 28 2019 12:27 AM
SHADOWNIGHT5150 wrote:
But does the element drip?
The demo I hear seemed to.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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SHADOWNIGHT5150
Joined: Jul 14, 2013
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Posted on May 28 2019 11:43 AM
i think a long tank mounted under a mini pedaltrain with a tuner, tubescreamer, compressor, boost, tremolo, and delay would make the perfect surf board
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Paul_T
Joined: Jan 29, 2019
Posts: 12
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Posted on May 29 2019 06:03 AM
I thought the thread would be about this:
https://www.tube-town.net/ttstore/Kits/MIDI-FX-Co/Kit-LNDVerb::6830.html
FET-driven, with a tank, but requires HT supply, works at line level as well as input level, and with a reverb transformer. I have the surfy-verb but think I'll try this too in the near future.
Last edited: May 29, 2019 06:06:20
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Snufkino
Joined: Nov 03, 2009
Posts: 228
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Posted on Jun 04 2019 04:23 PM
Ringo wrote:
If I couldn't locate or afford a '63 outboard, my vote would be for the CatalinBread Topanga. Its subtle, and arguably a rather subjective evaluation, but as small and as cost-effective as it is, the Topanga is the closest of the three in overall sound (splash and drip), to my '63 Reissue outboard.
I had the chance to compare the Topanga with a Fender tank ages ago and completely agree. Playing smooth and subtle with medium/low reverb I honestly would forget which one I had on. IIRC the Topanga was at 18v, which I slightly preferred to 9v.
I'm surprised you compromised the drip and would chose it against the Surfy Bear.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
Posts: 4108
Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Jun 04 2019 11:00 PM
Ringo wrote:
I've got a '63 Reissue outboard (circa 2007) that is my go-to device for classic surf reverb, but it was acting up on me here recently, so I went to the trouble and cost of buying virtually every known alternative, just for grins, knowing that I could sell either or all of them afterwards if I needed to. That included the following three devices:
1) SurfyBear Classic
2) Boss FRV-1
3) CatalinBread Topanga
I've since resolved the issue with my '63 outboard, and it remains my go-to, more than ever, and I'll admit that what follows here is no more than my own personal opinion, but after putting them all through their paces, if I couldn't locate or afford a '63 outboard, my vote would be for the CatalinBread Topanga. Its subtle, and arguably a rather subjective evaluation, but as small and as cost-effective as it is, the Topanga is the closest of the three in overall sound (splash and drip), to my '63 Reissue outboard.
I’ve played all but a few of the offerings and the Topanga sounds the best of any pedal I’ve tried.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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