garagelass
Joined: Aug 05, 2018
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Posted on Aug 05 2018 04:53 PM
Hey guys,
finally fulfilled my dream: I got my own guitar. Well, it's not quite what I had in mind but I love it nonetheless: basically a Telecaster Standard.
I love some odd kind of music and am a bit uncertain about the right kind of amp that works with this guitar. Yes, I love surf, but I guess it will be difficult to actually get that surf sound with this guitar. But that's fine. I'm sure there will be a second guitar one day Lets learn to play first.
I'm also into 60s garage, bands that combine punk or indie with blues or jazz, weird pop. Nothing really commercial. And certainly no high gain stuff. I really like clean guitar sounds just on the edge of breakup if that makes sense, maybe a bit of a dirty sound, a bit distortion max.
So what bedroom amp would you recommend? My situation currently doesn't allow for a big, noisy amp thus it needs to be small and work on low volume. I tried some Blackstar amp, but it was far too gainy for my liking. Same with a Katana. I'm uncertain about the THR10 and THR10C, mainly because I didn't manage to get any sounds out of them other than a kind of acoustic sound. The staff at that shop was particularly unhelpful though and basically ignored me even when I caved in and asked for help . I think the C looked nice on paper and the normal version nice on 2.5 of the models and again too gainy on the rest. But I couldn't really test them properly. And of course they need to work with my Tele.
So what do you suggest other than finding another shop? What amp should I have a closer look at?
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edwardsand
Joined: Jun 29, 2018
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Posted on Aug 05 2018 10:54 PM
Since you seem fine with solid state amps, I'd recommend the Tech 21 Trademark 30. It's got a number of settings, and the Fender setting is very good sounding at low "bedroom" volume, and you can add in a nice amount of grit to it without it going it to metal territory - I think it's great for 60's garage tones and bluesy sounds as well as surfy sounds (when you dial back the gain). The other settings are in the Marshall and Mesa veins and are much more distorted and loud - not very useful in the bedroom amp context.
The one drawback to the amp is that when you want to play really loud, the Fender setting doesn't give you much volume compared to the other settings. But that shouldn't be a big deal given the parameters you specified.
And I'll point out that the Tech 21 amps are analog, and so they generally refer to the settings as "emulating" other amps, whereas "modelling" refers to those that use digital processing to imitate other amps.
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 02:18 AM
Hi edwardsand,
thanks for your answer. I don't have a choice other than solid state amps at the moment. Space is a massive problem, and I do have to compromise at the moment (for another year at least).
I had a look at the amp you suggested, but it's about 50cm wide, which is too big for my flat. It would have to stand against furniture for playing, on both sides and I could not store it away, hence could not move through my flat. I really need a smaller solution, like the amps I mentioned. And well, £400 is more than I paid for this guitar. I just don't have the money.
I'd also not mind buying an overall fairly clean amp and then a pedal with some fuzz, something gritty (yes, without going into metal territory) once I've learned to play a bit. I just need a very small, fairly quiet solution at the moment that doesn't break the bank. Including second hand I could goto £200 for now.
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edwardsand
Joined: Jun 29, 2018
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 08:04 AM
Were you perhaps looking at the Trademark 60 - it's larger and more expensive than the Trademark 30. The TM 30 is definitely smaller than 50cm and shouldn't be near that expensive. Of course, if you are in the UK, it may be harder to find one.
You might look into one of the Roland Cubes - there are several models that are quite small, and a used one ought to be quite affordable (the new small Cube models aren't expensive either). An older Cube 30 or 40 would be more straight-forward, without all the digital circuitry they cram in the newer models.
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ifallalot
Joined: Mar 14, 2012
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Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 08:59 AM
I like and play the same kind of music you do and with this amp I've been able to dispense with all my pedals except for a Big Muff and a Tremolo
Loud enough to play a gig but scales down to bedroom volume as well
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 09:07 AM
ifallalot wrote:
I like and play the same kind of music you do and with this amp I've been able to dispense with all my pedals except for a Big Muff and a Tremolo
Loud enough to play a gig but scales down to bedroom volume as well
Thanks a lot for the heads up. I can't quite figure out what it is. Fender Supersonic only gives me a £1200 amp. I don't have that kind of cash laying around unfortunately, and it looks very, very big. For now I unfortunately have to stick with something fairly cheap and small, so really in the size of the small Yahamas or possibly Mustang GT40. That would still fit. I will look at something bigger sometime in the future after finishing my study and hopefully living bigger again.
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 09:11 AM
ifallalot wrote:
I like and play the same kind of music you do and with this amp I've been able to dispense with all my pedals except for a Big Muff and a Tremolo
Loud enough to play a gig but scales down to bedroom volume as well
Btw, cool to finally find someone who likes similar music! I have the feeling most forums seem to be crowded by either the high gain, or the pure country and blues crowd.
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ifallalot
Joined: Mar 14, 2012
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Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 09:18 AM
I consider the Nuggets Box Set to be my bible
I didn't quite realize you were looking for amps that small. I hear very good things about those Yamaha TH series amps
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 09:44 AM
ifallalot wrote:
I consider the Nuggets Box Set to be my bible
I didn't quite realize you were looking for amps that small. I hear very good things about those Yamaha TH series amps
Well, British flats. Think livingroom, kitchen, bath and bedroom on less than 370sqft. So yeah, what I really lack is space. No idea why I really needed to buy a guitar NOW (well, I know why, but anyway...)
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Bob_Kennedy
Joined: Feb 27, 2012
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Mesa, AZ.
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 11:27 AM
First off, never be ashamed of a Telecaster. They're certainly just fine for surf & many other styles. They're probably the most versatile guitar out there.
As for a bedroom amp, I like the Fender Mustang I or II. Great amps.
— Otto & The Ottomans
Kennedy Custom Guitars
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CrashHardtop
Joined: Jun 14, 2012
Posts: 151
Meridian, Idaho
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 11:49 AM
Another amplifier to consider is a Vox Pathfinder 15R. Great little amplifier, decent reverb, has headphone jack (if memory serves)and is generally held in high regard.
And Amen to what Bob said about the Telecaster. Great versatile guitar.
— More cowbell?? Nah...More Reverb!!
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gatorfiend
Joined: Aug 08, 2015
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Gainesville, Florida
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 11:57 AM
Bob's right, telecaster's rule. Congrats on the guitar.
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Vince_Ray
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 11:58 AM
Lots of good choices around, we get spoilt these days. I've had a few small amps in this category and have been happiest by far with the Fender Vibro Champ XD. Great prices now on eBay. Tried to find better and couldn't
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 06 2018 03:47 PM
Thanks all. I'm really happy with my Tele to be honest. When I saw it I just fell for it and finally decided to buy a guitar. Might not have a tremolo, but I just love this single coil sound and very simple, classic design. <3 You won't see me with a pickup monster from Ibanez for example
Also thanks for all the amp recommendations. I've looked at the Fender Mustang before and it really does look interesting. It's just that they are about 16" wide, which is just about the space I have to get from livingroom into kitchen. I can't store it anywhere, so it would basically block the only bit of walking space I have in my flat. I'm afraid I have to go smaller even I know it sucks if you want certain cool sounds and can't get a tube amp, and then not even a half decent transistor amp.
Bob_Kennedy wrote:
First off, never be ashamed of a Telecaster. They're certainly just fine for surf & many other styles. They're probably the most versatile guitar out there.
As for a bedroom amp, I like the Fender Mustang I or II. Great amps.
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Samurai
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Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Aug 07 2018 12:31 AM
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 07 2018 04:25 AM
Cool photo @Samurai! How useful do you find the different amp models on the THR, or rather: how useful are the more gainy models for you? All reviews I find focus on playing them with gain all the way up, which isn't helpful for me. Btw, what settings do you use for a cool sound?
Regarding Fender Mustang: What about the I instead of the II? It's certainly smaller and would not cause much problem. Plus it's really cheap.
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Samurai
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Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Aug 07 2018 05:47 AM
garagelass wrote:
Cool photo @Samurai! How useful do you find the different amp models on the THR, or rather: how useful are the more gainy models for you? All reviews I find focus on playing them with gain all the way up, which isn't helpful for me. Btw, what settings do you use for a cool sound?
Regarding Fender Mustang: What about the I instead of the II? It's certainly smaller and would not cause much problem. Plus it's really cheap.
I find them very useful) Not talking about some heavy stiles (I like to play some Metallica or Iron Maiden stuff sometimes)My favorite sound for classic surf is Mesa-Boogie (that they call Modern) with low gain and high level, punchy and crisp! Marshall style amps are nice for some Link Wray style or garage. I also enjoy Vox and Fender emulations there with gain pushed a little bit. Reverb is pretty decent and tremolo is nice, that's basically all that I need.
— Waikiki Makaki surf-rock band from Ukraine
New Single is out!
https://waikikimakaki.bandcamp.com/album/rhino-blues-full-contact-surf-single
Waikiki Makaki
https://linktr.ee/waikikimakaki
Lost Diver
https://lostdiver.bandcamp.com
https://soundcloud.com/vitaly-yakushin
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 07 2018 06:03 AM
Bob_Kennedy wrote:
First off, never be ashamed of a Telecaster. They're certainly just fine for surf & many other styles. They're probably the most versatile guitar out there.
As for a bedroom amp, I like the Fender Mustang I or II. Great amps.
D'oh, you suggested I or II. Forget my previous comment. Yes, I'm thinking about it. Still a bit on the big side (doesn't fit underneath my bed) but might just about work.
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Samurai
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2142
Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Aug 07 2018 06:06 AM
garagelass wrote:
Bob_Kennedy wrote:
First off, never be ashamed of a Telecaster. They're certainly just fine for surf & many other styles. They're probably the most versatile guitar out there.
As for a bedroom amp, I like the Fender Mustang I or II. Great amps.
D'oh, you suggested I or II. Forget my previous comment. Yes, I'm thinking about it. Still a bit on the big side (doesn't fit underneath my bed) but might just about work.
Agree) I play a lot of surf with telecaster and love it) Not a main surf guitar for me, yes, but it's nice)
— Waikiki Makaki surf-rock band from Ukraine
New Single is out!
https://waikikimakaki.bandcamp.com/album/rhino-blues-full-contact-surf-single
Waikiki Makaki
https://linktr.ee/waikikimakaki
Lost Diver
https://lostdiver.bandcamp.com
https://soundcloud.com/vitaly-yakushin
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garagelass
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Posted on Aug 07 2018 06:11 AM
Samurai wrote:
garagelass wrote:
Cool photo @Samurai! How useful do you find the different amp models on the THR, or rather: how useful are the more gainy models for you? All reviews I find focus on playing them with gain all the way up, which isn't helpful for me. Btw, what settings do you use for a cool sound?
Regarding Fender Mustang: What about the I instead of the II? It's certainly smaller and would not cause much problem. Plus it's really cheap.
I find them very useful) Not talking about some heavy stiles (I like to play some Metallica or Iron Maiden stuff sometimes)My favorite sound for classic surf is Mesa-Boogie (that they call Modern) with low gain and high level, punchy and crisp! Marshall style amps are nice for some Link Wray style or garage. I also enjoy Vox and Fender emulations there with gain pushed a little bit. Reverb is pretty decent and tremolo is nice, that's basically all that I need.
Thanks a lot Samurai. This gives me something to think about, between the THR and possibly the smallest Fender Mustang. The THR is much smaller, but also a LOT more expensive. So I guess I need to decide on my priorities. In the end it's always about compromising, and I guess I need to decide on how much to spend vs. space.
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