Squid
Joined: Aug 22, 2010
Posts: 1013
Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers
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Posted on Dec 17 2016 10:25 PM
ZT Lunchbox is a great multipurpose amp because:
1) It is very small, i.e., the size of a lunchbox including its speaker.
2) Lots of clean headroom. 120 watts RMS.
3) Adjustable overdrive sounds like tubes
4) You can gig with it. Play soft or play loud. Small to medium venues, or large venues if miked.
5) Scaleable--add an extension speaker for bigger sound if/when needed.
However (just one): pedals are needed for reverb, delay, tremolo, etc. but a tiny Zoom multieffects pedal can cover all these bases.
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2532
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 18 2016 06:11 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
I am still really digging my Quilter 101 head for low volume playing (loud as well)
It has the uncanny ability to sound very similar to my low wattage vintage amps that I use for practice or around the house playing.
Cheers,
Jeff
I think it's time for me to get the Quilter Mini and sell the Vox. What type of speaker do you use for around the house Jeff? This sounds like a great idea for stage backup also.
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4052
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Dec 18 2016 09:51 AM
stratdancer wrote:
I think it's time for me to get the Quilter Mini and sell the Vox. What type of speaker do you use for around the house Jeff? This sounds like a great idea for stage backup also.
I mostly play the 101 through a 12", 4 ohm Jensen Tornado these days, quiet or loud but I also have an Eminence Lil Texas 12", 8 ohm that is a little more subdued in the highs and mids, a little warmer, that cops my old small Supro and Tweed Champ sounds well. I just found a funky, angled suitcase that I'm going to build a 10" into for small gigs. I'll let you know how that goes.
I've played it through vintage Jensen 8" and a newer Weber 8" that sounded o.k. as well but mostly just the 12" speakers.
Hope that helps
Cheers,
Jeff
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2532
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 18 2016 10:15 AM
Thanks Jeff! I wonder if anyone has tried running it with a D130 as I'm looking to downsize for a good trad surf stage rig with a lighter 1x15 cab. My 90 lb cab with the EV SRO is ridiculous!
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Badger
Joined: Nov 16, 2013
Posts: 4536
Wisconsin
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Posted on Dec 18 2016 11:18 AM
CrazyAces wrote:
I mostly play the 101 through a 12", 4 ohm Jensen Tornado these days, quiet or loud but I also have an Eminence Lil Texas 12", 8 ohm that is a little more subdued in the highs and mids, a little warmer, that cops my old small Supro and Tweed Champ sounds well.
Those both sound like great choices Jeff. I take it the Tornado yielded what you wanted (as well as not weighing a ton, lol).
Afterthough: I'm thinking I should've kept 1 of the Celestions that came with my Vibrolux and had the Jensen on 1 side and something "slightly" crunchier on the other. Have to check with amp guy & see if he or someone wants to swap a Falcon for something else. Playing single coils thru a great tank into a Fender amp it's not like I'm lacking highs. 
Then I could mic 1 or the other maybe depending...
— Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
Posts: 4052
Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Dec 18 2016 10:29 PM
Badger wrote:
Those both sound like great choices Jeff. I take it the Tornado yielded what you wanted (as well as not weighing a ton, lol).
Yes, the Tornado is, to me, the best sounding speaker for the amp I've heard and it can handle the power if needed. Other tastes and opinions may vary of course.
We can talk more about that in the proper thread on the Mini 101, so as not to hi-jack this one.
I played this rig (Quilter 101 and Jensen Tornado) for about an hour tonight, just below the 2 watt setting and it sounded really sweet and textured, not sterile at all (please excuse the adjectives) even with a Boss FRV-1 which I know many here don't care for.
A really nice practice/bedroom rig.
Cheers,
Jeff
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CaptainSensible
Joined: Nov 08, 2006
Posts: 643
Leesburg, VA
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 09:44 AM
If you have a Mustang amp, why would you need another bedroom amp? I have a Mustang III, which I use for most of my playing since it is typically done late at night. I also have a 68 Custom Deluxe Reverb that I purchased in 2013 in the hopes of eventually finding folks to jam with. However, given my circumstances, it doesn't get played anywhere near as much as the Mustang.
Frankly, I'm thinking of selling my DR because it just seems like too much amp for my life. I bought it out of wishful thinking and unfortunately it doesn't get much use. Last night I was playing it in the basement after 11pm and the volume was just shy of 2. The CDR is a bit of a noisy amp so I could actually hear the hum of the tremolo over what I was playing!
— Sean
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da-ron
Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1299
The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Dec 20 2016 09:59 AM
CaptainSensible wrote:
Frankly, I'm thinking of selling my DR because it just seems like too much amp for my life. I bought it out of wishful thinking and unfortunately it doesn't get much use. !
I feel a bit like that about my Showman head, It sees very little use unless we play outdoors. Then I play it at an outdoor gig, and I'm suddenly seized with a desire to keep it forever!
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Rustan
Joined: Mar 02, 2010
Posts: 49
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Posted on Dec 21 2016 02:47 PM
Try Laney Cub 12R.
I am very pleased with mine, got 2 levels. One 15W input, and one neighbourfriendly 1W input. Sounds great with my Surfy Bear unit.
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Tqi
Joined: Dec 07, 2014
Posts: 1222
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Posted on Dec 22 2016 12:10 AM
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
Posts: 2532
Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Dec 23 2016 06:34 AM
I just picked up a quilter. Highly recommend! It's low volume tone is fantastic and as you know it's a great gigging amp. The plus is that it comes on and you can play right away and know you are burning through tubes to noodle around.
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revmike
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 3742
North Atlantic
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Posted on Dec 23 2016 09:14 AM
I have a Fender Bassbreaker 007 that fits the bedroom practice amp bill. There is no onboard reverb, but it is really versatile. I have used it for gigs on occasion. My Danelectro Cadet, and Kalamazoo Model 2 also are great low powered amps, and are available for a variety of prices used.
Rev
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crumble
Joined: Sep 09, 2008
Posts: 3158
Guildford England
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Posted on Dec 23 2016 10:52 AM
I bought one of these 3W class D PAM8403 amps thinking I could make a nice little bedroom amp. Cost a couple of bucks from China. I've seen some youtubes of other people using them with impressive results.
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choice_of_meat
Joined: Oct 04, 2013
Posts: 42
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Posted on Dec 23 2016 08:13 PM
I think you can see from the responses that a solid state amp is really the easiest way to go for "bedroom to stage" volumes. Especially if you are not chasing "power amp distortion tones" - Maybe you want to sound like Neil Young in your surf band... but I would doubt it. :->
When I was chasing "power amp distorted tones" - I've had amps from champ size (swart), to small valco's, all the way up to fender twins and a super reverb (with power scaling), etc. etc. etc.. and NONE are great for doing really quiet to drummer loud distortion. A 5 watt amp is loud enough to piss off the rest of the house (well the house I live in), and not loud enough to hang with a drummer.
So for those tones, it's Solid state to the rescue! Currently I have a retro channel RR1 (that I'm now selling as I've gone more into surf than hard rock tones) and I would put the retro channel up against almost any amp tone wise; and the fact that it is "seriously whisper volume" to "100 watts super loud", really really is crazy hard to beat and more or less impossible to do volume wise with tube amp power amp distortion. Just look at the power amp attenuator market or all the "power scaling" etc.etc.. all to tame the beast.
Anyways, if you give up on the chase for "tube power amp distortion at many volumes", then you are a lot more free to get a way more versatile setup, like a lot of people have posted above.
You can have really really nice cleans from a variety of amps, but, IMHO Solid state amps are great power amps, and if you want "tube" get something like a nice tube preamp and a solid state power amp. Or just go solid state amp all the way.
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Ariel
Joined: Aug 29, 2009
Posts: 1556
Israel
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Posted on Dec 24 2016 11:20 AM
Great post, MEAT. Like I've always said: Transistors are the future!
Has anyone heard of the Ethos solid state amps?
They have a new CLEAN II model. Seems to be very well suited for our cause.
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blackheartsfan
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
Posts: 274
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Posted on Dec 24 2016 05:23 PM
Anyone looking for a bedroom amp should check out the Johnson Reptone 15R (reverb) they're usually available "used" for approx $50. I bought one for a teen that helped me with my dock rebuild and after trying it out hated to part with it, it made a plain Squier SE Strat sound fantastic.
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ifallalot
Joined: Mar 14, 2012
Posts: 100
Huntington Beach, CA
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Posted on Jan 02 2017 09:24 AM
Semi-random question here, has anyone compared the volume level of a stock DRRI with a PRRI + extension cabinet? I know that the DRRI will have more clean headroom regardless but my thought is that is you plugged in the PRRI to a 1x15 or 2x10 cabinet you could be pushing even more air than the DRRI's 12.
Then you just run through the 10" in the PRRI for home use.
I realize this would be more expensive than just buying a DRRI or even a Vibrolux Reverb, but I'm thinking you could have a pretty sweet setup for both band and bedroom use.
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choice_of_meat
Joined: Oct 04, 2013
Posts: 42
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Posted on Jan 04 2017 10:23 AM
Also speaker choice and speaker efficiency would prob have the biggest effect on volume, yes.
You'd want to look around for a loud (sensitive) 15 and a inefficient 10 if you went that way.
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Samurai
Joined: Mar 14, 2006
Posts: 2142
Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Jan 04 2017 02:04 PM
I use this little 2w train) it breaks up pretty yearly however that I like a lot! Had a lot of small tube amps but this one is a killer)I play nice saturated naturally overdriven tones and my family is not bothered in the next room.
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blackheartsfan
Joined: Jun 13, 2009
Posts: 274
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Posted on Jan 05 2017 11:54 PM
Samurai wrote:
I use this little 2w train) it breaks up pretty yearly however that I like a lot! Had a lot of small tube amps but this one is a killer)I play nice saturated naturally overdriven tones and my family is not bothered in the next room.
What are those Yamaha EGV-103C's going for? There's one in my area available.
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