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revmike Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3742 North Atlantic	Posted on Aug 02 2016 11:01 AM Teisco Del Rey (Dan Forte) has made a nice career out of playing "cheap" guitars. He's the one I hold responsible for my love of Danelectros. I just got my one pick up 1960s Dano set up properly, and it plays great (always sounded great). A proper set up can make a world of difference for any guitar. Rev PS. I guess original Danos are not so cheap anymore... Teisco Del Rey https://www.facebook.com/Teisco-Del-Rey-545097865682059/?ref=ts&fref=ts — Canadian Surf http://www.urbansurfkings.com/ Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Aug 02 2016 08:10 PM Speaking of cheap gear, a project guitar of mine, body and neck probably from Japan in the late 60s, has loose frets above the XIIth. What can be done to fix them short of a major overhaul? I bought them both for change I had in my pocket, $11 I think, so I'm not married to this neck. — Squink Out! Top
Gilette Joined: May 04, 2014 Posts: 734	Posted on Aug 03 2016 11:00 AM JObeast wrote: Speaking of cheap gear, a project guitar of mine, body and neck probably from Japan in the late 60s, has loose frets above the XIIth. What can be done to fix them short of a major overhaul? I bought them both for change I had in my pocket, $11 I think, so I'm not married to this neck. Some super glue and a fret press? Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4052 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Aug 03 2016 02:36 PM Jo, I agree with Frank. "Floating" thin super glue under the fret can work great for this and can stabilize the frets so that any additional dressing is effective. Stew Mac sells some really handy Pipettes (sp?) that attach to the super glue dispenser and allow better control over small amounts of glue for this purpose. A wood radius block and a hand squeeze clamp can also work well to hold the frets down while you float glue under them. Cheers, Jeff — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
heepeejeep Joined: Feb 28, 2013 Posts: 350	Posted on Aug 04 2016 06:44 PM Last edited: Aug 05, 2016 04:36:50 Top
GatoStrato Joined: Jul 20, 2016 Posts: 39 Sjobergastan,a small nation state hidden in the mountains of Taos Co. NM.	Posted on Aug 04 2016 09:36 PM Hay Heepeejeep,thanks for for the video... It made me smile! — Salud! Mark Top
JObeast Joined: Jul 24, 2012 Posts: 2762 Finknabad, Squinkistan	Posted on Aug 04 2016 11:55 PM Thanks Jeff. The capillary application of super glue sounds minimally invasive so it can't hurt. I'll improvise a radiused clamp out of wood and rubber. CrazyAces wrote: Jo, I agree with Frank. "Floating" thin super glue under the fret can work great for this and can stabilize the frets so that any additional dressing is effective. Stew Mac sells some really handy Pipettes (sp?) that attach to the super glue dispenser and allow better control over small amounts of glue for this purpose. A wood radius block and a hand squeeze clamp can also work well to hold the frets down while you float glue under them. Cheers, Jeff — Squink Out! Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4052 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Aug 05 2016 07:47 AM JObeast wrote: Thanks Jeff. The capillary application of super glue sounds minimally invasive so it can't hurt. I'll improvise a radiused clamp out of wood and rubber. Another good thing, should it be needed down the line is that the super glue will release it's hold when heat (soldering iron) is applied just like a normally installed fret if you ever need the frets removed for replacement. Best of luck with those frets. Cheers, Jeff — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1555 Israel	Posted on Aug 05 2016 10:00 AM CrazyAces wrote: JObeast wrote: Thanks Jeff. The capillary application of super glue sounds minimally invasive so it can't hurt. I'll improvise a radiused clamp out of wood and rubber. Another good thing, should it be needed down the line is that the super glue will release it's hold when heat (soldering iron) is applied just like a normally installed fret if you ever need the frets removed for replacement. Best of luck with those frets. Cheers, Jeff Humbly asking the experts - Doesn't Super-Glue dry up overtime? Although the application is easy, from my experience it can become a powdery mess. Wouldn't some kind of slower drying epoxy be better? Top
CrazyAces Joined: Jul 31, 2012 Posts: 4052 Nashville, TN.	Posted on Aug 05 2016 10:43 AM Ariel, I've never experienced any problems with cryo based glues over the years for this application or even gluing in string nuts. Epoxy, while often stronger, can be very un-friendly if the frets ever have to be removed. Also, due to general viscosity differences the super glue can usually be attained more easily in water thin, easy to flow under the frets consistency, making removal of the frets un-neccesary to fix this problem. These are just my experiences. As far as your use of the word "experts" well, I think everyday is an accumulation of knowledge and experience, a life long pursuit of which I myself am only in the middle, so I wince a little when anyone uses that word in reference to me. Oh wait, maybe that wasn't directed at me.....LOL. Cheers, Jeff — http://www.facebook.com/CrazyAcesMusic http://www.youtube.com/user/crazyacesrock http://www.reverbnation.com/crazyacesmusic Top
Squid Joined: Aug 22, 2010 Posts: 1013 Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers	Posted on Aug 05 2016 11:16 AM Reading these posts led me to review my guitar collection for the cheapest guitar with vibrato that I did not modify. Looking them over I saw I had modified them all, from cheap to costly. The smallest mod was rotating the bridge pickup 180 degrees; that took 5 minutes and a screwdriver, and that was on the most costly guitar I own, a Steinberger USA. Less costly guitars had major overhauls including adding weights to the vibrato block, thinning the neck, changing the saddles, and changing pickups. In the less costly group the guitar with the fewest mods is the DiPinto Mach IV. It needed only a severe thinning of the neck. Pickups and sustain were good. The only guitars I bought and did not modify were the few without vibrato. But then the vibrato is usually a weak point. — Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com Top
Squid Joined: Aug 22, 2010 Posts: 1013 Portland, Oregon with Insanitizers	Posted on Aug 05 2016 11:22 AM Superglue is cyanoacrylate, AKA acrylic, lucite, plexiglas. Dentists and surgeons use types of it. There are different qualities of course. With high stress it can fracture and turn into powder, it's a matter of what stress, where, and glue quality. Unless the guitar is dropped frets aren't exposed to high stress. CrazyAces wrote: I've never experienced any problems with cryo based glues — Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com Top
Ariel Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1555 Israel	Posted on Aug 06 2016 12:45 PM Squid, that makes sense. I suspect it would still disintegrate somewhat, but it doesn't matter, in that application the filling itself would be the most crucial aspect. Thanks for the detailed answer, Jeff! We're all learning until the day we die. It's all relative anyway, but certainly yes, as far as I perceive, counting your humility in... you're an expert. Just grown men, talking adhesives... cheers! Last edited: Aug 06, 2016 12:55:08 Top

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