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I’m still working on my build
I originally wanted to make a reverb and tremolo kit combo into a old army bullet box but now since the surfy compact came out it got me to thinking of getting a pedal enclosure with a small reverb tank and doing it that way

my only question would be can I get a short tank with two springs and still get the classic drip

Last edited: Aug 25, 2020 12:12:28

I've been experimenting with short tanks and have found that the current Accutronics 1AB2B1B pan can create some good drip. However, I found that the gain on the Surfy Bear board was set too high and made the reverb too strong and washy, distorted even. So I had to play around to turn down the gain, now it's much better.

And just today I got some long pans to play with, and found that hooking them up the gain is set too low for them, and you have to turn the controls all the way up to get much drip.

Not sure what other people have experienced or why there is such a difference between long and short pans - the impedance levels in type 1 vs type 4 might be different but I didn't think it would make such a difference.

@edwardsand

I experienced something similar when I tried my long MOD tank instead of the short one in my Fender Vaporizer and there was hardly any Reverb noticeable - and the signal received quite a volume drop too - the other way around - short tank with the Surfy Bear worked quite good as far as I remember... but this has been quite some time ago...
Concerning the gain... do you use a 12V+/1A power source?
and where's would you adjust the gain? Is there a trim-pot? Honestly can‘t remember...and on the pics of the circuit I haven‘t seen any.

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I am using a 12V power source (I think it's 2 or 3 amps). There is a trim pot, at least on the newer revisions of the board (I'm not sure about the first version). It's tiny, and located between the Dwell and signal input connections, labelled R12/gain adj. It seems to be free turning, in that you can spin it 360 degrees and keep spinning it - maybe that's how most trimpots work, but I don't know.

Bjorn has said that the trim pots are factory set and usually you don't need to mess with them, but in my case it makes an important difference for using a short pan vs. long pan. My enclosure will only fit a short pan, but I also added external jacks so I could plug in a different pan if I want. This makes it easy to do A/B comparisons, and the differences are easily noticeable.

does anyone have any audio demos of surfybear on vocals and/or drums? i'm an engineer looking for a spring to mix with outside (and including!) guitar.... Thanks!

Here is an example of someone using a SurfyBear Metal for vocals.
https://www.instagram.com/p/CB0uw-BnGsI/?igshid=16lf9xg2qlp2

http://www.satanspilgrims.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553
https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/
http://www.surfyindustries.com

MayTheFuzzBeWithYou wrote:

Fender Vaporizer

Represent!

They who die with the fewest control knobs, win.

- "The Mysterious" Tqi.

I finally finished mine earlier this year. I used both the reverb and tremolo kits and put them in a mojotone cab and chassis. Really happy with the end result. Looks and sounds great

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You guys are so inspirational!
I can't wait to finish my build and post pics, too! Mine is a 2-channel SurfyBear in a pedal box.

BTW, if anyone has a tremolo PCB in working cond., please PM me, thanks!

Every time I see a shootout vid, Surfy wins! There's one where the Fender sounds louder, but if you raise the vol. on their recording, the Surfy is exactly the same as their Fender Smile

MayTheFuzzBeWithYou wrote:

@edwardsand

I experienced something similar when I tried my long MOD tank instead of the short one in my Fender Vaporizer and there was hardly any Reverb noticeable

Did you use the standard tank from a Surfy Bear? If so - it was probably an impedance mismatch. The SB tank is 8Ω, while the Vaporizer tank is 800Ω.

My Red Vape howls with too much reverb, so I might be trying a tank swap on that one soon. (It's always the red ones. My first red one shipped with a similar problem, as well as a duff speaker. Blue and green? Never a problem with either)

They who die with the fewest control knobs, win.

- "The Mysterious" Tqi.

oops double post

Last edited: Nov 05, 2020 13:50:51

Gevalt wrote:

Finally finished my pedal! A 2 Channel Surfybear Spring Reverb in as small a form as possible. Inspired by Dick Dale's Chartreuse Sparkle Strat.

@Gevalt Great job! Looks sweet. How did you go about switching all three pots on a single footswitch? On my similar build, I moved several caps and connections off board, which would have worked to chain the mix and treble, but not the dwell. Is it a 4pdt stomp?

SHADOWNIGHT5150 wrote:

my only question would be can I get a short tank with two springs and still get the classic drip

I tried 4 different tanks and for under by pedalboard I chose the TAD (Tube Amp Doctor) 8AB3C1B, Long Decay, 3-Spring tank. It is as close to the desired sound as is possible in the short format, has great drip, and none of the harshness I found with other variants. Highly recommend!

Hello! Has anyone tried to modify the Surfy Bear Metal with a double mixer knob, as it is described in the Surfy Bear site FAQ? I was thinking to add a double knob and modify the on/off button to switch between the two settings. I will not be able to bypass the effect but I don't need to turn it off anyway. If I want to simulate the on/off button I will just turn one mixer all the way to dry...

ps. I hope this is not a double post. After a quick search I did not find a specific answer. It will take some days to catch up 100+ pages on this topic... Smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ0ekYHUEdQ

terma_reverb wrote:

Hello! Has anyone tried to modify the Surfy Bear Metal with a double mixer knob, as it is described in the Surfy Bear site FAQ? I was thinking to add a double knob and modify the on/off button to switch between the two settings. I will not be able to bypass the effect but I don't need to turn it off anyway. If I want to simulate the on/off button I will just turn one mixer all the way to dry...

Surfy has this available that will get you the same results if you're interested.

Danny Snyder

Latest project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

I'm back playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

DannySnyder wrote:

Surfy has this available that will get you the same results if you're interested.

I thought this is compatible only for the Surfy Bear 2.0 Classic (according to the web site). Is it also compatible with the metal version? Hmmm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ0ekYHUEdQ

I believe there's a way to make it work, let's ask Ted...

Danny Snyder

Latest project - Now That's What I Call SURF
_
"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

I'm back playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

terma_reverb wrote:

Hello! Has anyone tried to modify the Surfy Bear Metal with a double mixer knob, as it is described in the Surfy Bear site FAQ? I was thinking to add a double knob and modify the on/off button to switch between the two settings. I will not be able to bypass the effect but I don't need to turn it off anyway. If I want to simulate the on/off button I will just turn one mixer all the way to dry...

ps. I hope this is not a double post. After a quick search I did not find a specific answer. It will take some days to catch up 100+ pages on this topic... Smile

Hello!
The answer in the FAQ is about modifying the DIY kit, which has been discontinued. It will not work with the Metal. Sorry.

http://www.satanspilgrims.com
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Satans-Pilgrims/8210228553
https://satanspilgrims.bandcamp.com/
http://www.surfyindustries.com

Last edited: Dec 30, 2020 11:03:45

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