CAGED SYSTEM

corntsunami

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Posted on Jan 17 2007 11:52 PM

Do any of you use the CAGED system with surf guitar music? If so, which scale shapes in the CAGED sytem would work best for surf improvising..??

Thanks.

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DannySnyder

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Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:12 AM

I don't have any idea what the CAGED system is, but I love your name Corntsunami.

Welcome to the group. Why not post a brief introduction here:
intro

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Danny Snyder

"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo

Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta

Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party

Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF

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JakeDobner

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Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:13 AM

No idea. Is it caged as in the word or C A G E D as in notes?

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IronMaiden

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Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:16 AM

Box patterns?

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dp

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Posted on Jan 18 2007 10:37 AM

The CAGED system is from the "Fretboard Logic" series of books by Bill Edwards. It's a cool system of fretboard manuevering usng the open and barre chord shapes for C A G E D...I've only been messing around with it for a few months...intriguing. I would reccomend Edward's "Fretboard Logic 1" for anyone interested in guitar.

-dp

http://www.billedwards.com/frameset.html

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WaveOhhh

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Posted on Jan 18 2007 10:53 AM

Oh, so thats what its called! I just think of "C" shapes, "D" shapes, "E" shapes, move them up and down and throw in some tone color like minor, 9th, 7th, 11ths etc.

Years ago someone was referring to Barre (E), double barre (A) and the now infamous triple barre chord (C). This is probably the same thing.

The worst thing I did for my guitar playing was to take jazz guitar lessons. Now I think about every chord I play and fight the urge to throw stuff on it (only kidding).

Bill M.

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dp

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Posted on Jan 18 2007 11:43 AM

for example, playing a "C maj" sounding chord all over the guitar neck:

fret 1: open C shaped chord

fret 3: barre A shaped chord

fret 5: barre G shaped chord

fret 8: barre E shaped chord

fret 10: barre D shaped chord

fret 12: barre C shaped chord etc

all the above chords sound as "C".

the above example spells out CAGED...

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mom_surfing

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Posted on Jan 18 2007 01:14 PM

dp
The CAGED system is from the "Fretboard Logic" series of books by Bill Edwards. It's a cool system of fretboard manuevering usng the open and barre chord shapes for C A G E D...I've only been messing around with it for a few months...intriguing. I would reccomend Edward's "Fretboard Logic 1" for anyone interested in guitar.

-dp

i have learned a lot from this book

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www.surfintheeye.com

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corntsunami

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Posted on Jan 20 2007 12:13 AM

This is a good website about the CAGED system. PDF format.

http://www.smccd.net/accounts/markovich/Fall%2005/Major%20Scales%20Using%20The%20CAGED%20Format%20Bkgnd.pdf

I'm just not good enough with music theory to know which of the patterns work best with say, minor chords.. I understand that they are moveable scale patterns, but it seems that some would work better with surf type chord progessions than others.. or not.

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dp

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Posted on Jan 21 2007 10:24 AM

corntsunami
This is a good website about the CAGED system. PDF format.

http://www.smccd.net/accounts/markovich/Fall%2005/Major%20Scales%20Using%20The%20CAGED%20Format%20Bkgnd.pdf

cornwave:

it seems that the choice of scales on this link would depend upon the key of a tune: like the key of E or th key of G or whatever. It seems like a good idea to learn all the major scales in this PDF...they would work for tunes in major keys, or their relative minor keys as well.

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pointbreakspy

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Posted on Jan 23 2007 08:40 PM

...the blues brothers played in a caged system...stopped them getting hit by beer bottles......

adam

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PhatTele

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Posted on Feb 02 2007 03:35 PM

The CAGE or CAGED system will open up the neck for you. Most of the country and shag players I see around here use it (even if they don't know what it's called). It can really help you economize moving up and down the neck and give you convienent voicings for chords where you least expected.

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corntsunami Joined: Jan 01, 2007 Posts: 4	Posted on Jan 17 2007 11:52 PM Do any of you use the CAGED system with surf guitar music? If so, which scale shapes in the CAGED sytem would work best for surf improvising..?? Thanks. Top
DannySnyder Joined: Mar 02, 2006 Posts: 11048 Berkeley, CA	Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:12 AM I don't have any idea what the CAGED system is, but I love your name Corntsunami. Welcome to the group. Why not post a brief introduction here: intro — Danny Snyder "With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo Playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta Formerly a guitarist in The TomorrowMen and Meshugga Beach Party Latest surf project - Now That's What I Call SURF Top
JakeDobner Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle	Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:13 AM No idea. Is it caged as in the word or C A G E D as in notes? Top
IronMaiden Joined: Nov 02, 2006 Posts: 564 Virginia Beach	Posted on Jan 18 2007 12:16 AM Box patterns? Top
dp Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california	Posted on Jan 18 2007 10:37 AM The CAGED system is from the "Fretboard Logic" series of books by Bill Edwards. It's a cool system of fretboard manuevering usng the open and barre chord shapes for C A G E D...I've only been messing around with it for a few months...intriguing. I would reccomend Edward's "Fretboard Logic 1" for anyone interested in guitar. -dp http://www.billedwards.com/frameset.html image Top
WaveOhhh Joined: Apr 24, 2006 Posts: 236 Plantation, FL	Posted on Jan 18 2007 10:53 AM Oh, so thats what its called! I just think of "C" shapes, "D" shapes, "E" shapes, move them up and down and throw in some tone color like minor, 9th, 7th, 11ths etc. Years ago someone was referring to Barre (E), double barre (A) and the now infamous triple barre chord (C). This is probably the same thing. The worst thing I did for my guitar playing was to take jazz guitar lessons. Now I think about every chord I play and fight the urge to throw stuff on it (only kidding). Bill M. www.Myspace.com/thefindicators — What day is Surf Rock's birthday? Looks like Surf Rock and I was born the same year. Maybe we are both Libras? Top
dp Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california	Posted on Jan 18 2007 11:43 AM for example, playing a "C maj" sounding chord all over the guitar neck: fret 1: open C shaped chord fret 3: barre A shaped chord fret 5: barre G shaped chord fret 8: barre E shaped chord fret 10: barre D shaped chord fret 12: barre C shaped chord etc all the above chords sound as "C". the above example spells out CAGED... Top
mom_surfing Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 5298 the outer banks of north carolina	Posted on Jan 18 2007 01:14 PM dp The CAGED system is from the "Fretboard Logic" series of books by Bill Edwards. It's a cool system of fretboard manuevering usng the open and barre chord shapes for C A G E D...I've only been messing around with it for a few months...intriguing. I would reccomend Edward's "Fretboard Logic 1" for anyone interested in guitar. -dp i have learned a lot from this book — www.surfintheeye.com Top
corntsunami Joined: Jan 01, 2007 Posts: 4	Posted on Jan 20 2007 12:13 AM This is a good website about the CAGED system. PDF format. http://www.smccd.net/accounts/markovich/Fall%2005/Major%20Scales%20Using%20The%20CAGED%20Format%20Bkgnd.pdf I'm just not good enough with music theory to know which of the patterns work best with say, minor chords.. I understand that they are moveable scale patterns, but it seems that some would work better with surf type chord progessions than others.. or not. Top
dp Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 3546 mojave desert, california	Posted on Jan 21 2007 10:24 AM corntsunami This is a good website about the CAGED system. PDF format. http://www.smccd.net/accounts/markovich/Fall%2005/Major%20Scales%20Using%20The%20CAGED%20Format%20Bkgnd.pdf cornwave: it seems that the choice of scales on this link would depend upon the key of a tune: like the key of E or th key of G or whatever. It seems like a good idea to learn all the major scales in this PDF...they would work for tunes in major keys, or their relative minor keys as well. Top
pointbreakspy Joined: Aug 24, 2006 Posts: 204 Newcastle... Australia	Posted on Jan 23 2007 08:40 PM ...the blues brothers played in a caged system...stopped them getting hit by beer bottles...... adam Top
PhatTele Joined: Jun 05, 2006 Posts: 445	Posted on Feb 02 2007 03:35 PM The CAGE or CAGED system will open up the neck for you. Most of the country and shag players I see around here use it (even if they don't know what it's called). It can really help you economize moving up and down the neck and give you convienent voicings for chords where you least expected. Top

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