dp
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 12:03 PM
I pulled out the old Tascam 4-track cassette recorder...and it still functions great!
the deck sounds sweet, and I'm considering using the 4-track exclusively for a bit to inspire some simpler writing...in other words writing for 4 parts...maybe even 3 parts...drums, bass, guitar...maybe a second guitar or keyboard or ??? for track 4...
having all the digital resources of cakewalk etc, does anyone else here even play around with the older simpler recording gear?
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Jagshark
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Colorado, home of The Astronauts
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 12:14 PM
I used to use one of those back in the day.
I just bought an "untested" Yamaha 4-track cassette unit for some recording and sound experiments. Tapes were fun!
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surferXmatt
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New York
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 12:38 PM
I too had the Blue Tascam 4 track recorder years ago. I switched to a digital multitrack and then to laptop based recording. To be honest, I enjoyed recording on the Tascam the most, simple and straight forward, no distractions.
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hlieboff59
Joined: Jun 27, 2008
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Marlboro, New Jersey
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 12:43 PM
I have the Tascam 4 track cassette recorder. Bought it in the 80's.
Went to use it last year and pressed record and boom. Can't unstick it!!!
When it was working, it was fantastic.
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remora1
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San Pedro, CA
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 12:57 PM
Did a bunch of skate/snowboard video soundtrack work back in the 80's on a Yamaha MT-44 4-track cassette deck (hey, they were low budget productions - we got paid in Vision Streetwear clothes and shoes!). It was tons of fun - even did some backwards masking on a few tracks! We got pretty good at ping ponging tracks and still keeping it all fairly listenable.
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estreet
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United Kingdom
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 02:17 PM
I had an MT44 - what I used to do was mix down the first 4 tracks onto a stereo cassette deck then put that tape in to the MT44 and use the other 2 tracks then mix that down to stereo - it gave you 6 high quality(ish) tracks and worked pretty well. You couldn't do it with other 4-Track machines because they ran at double speed whereas the MT44 didn't.
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revmike
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North Atlantic
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 02:43 PM
Our first couple of releases (cassettes) were done on a Yamaha 4-track recorder. It was so simple to use, just set up 4 mics (guitar, bass, drums, room), press record and go. There was no distractions of any outboard gear (for better or worse).
I was digging through old recordings for the upcoming USK retro-spective, and am placing several tunes recorded on that 4 track for the release.
We also had a 4 track demo used in a feature film (Beefcake, 1999) . The other tunes we recorded for the soundtrack were done in a state of the art studio, but the director preferred the 4 track performance and sound of that tune vs its studio version.
I also really like the sound of the drums on the first Recruders CD, and that was all done on a 4-track.
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da-ron
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The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 06:04 PM
I use a Yamaha 4 track - it's awesome! Bought it off ebay for £40 GBP. It can record 4 tracks at once, which my pc can't do. 2 mics for the drums, one for bass & one for guitar. job done. Quality is astounding, virtually noise free. Stocking up on chrome tapes while they are still around... Nice thing about it is you can go well into the red on tape and it doesn't give that nasty digital clipping. Also you can take it to gigs and record them without having to take a pc with you and stress about damaging it or losing it.
Keeping mine for as long as possible.
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Jetpack
Joined: May 28, 2008
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Los Angeles
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Posted on Jun 10 2010 07:33 PM
I still have my Tascam. As mentioned above, I too have it stuck in record mode, but to get around that is easy: you just don't enable recording until you are ready and it will simply function as play, even though the recording head is down. I made my demos on that in the '90s that got me on the label, so I think it worked well!
Still, today I'd rather go with Garage Band for quick demos or even Protools if I still had it. I only had the free one with OS9 and those days are long gone.
Looking back from my deathbed the Tascam will be one of the things I consider the best thing I ever invested in.
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zamblee
Joined: Jul 04, 2010
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Posted on Jul 06 2010 03:23 PM
Two mediums that I feel no nostalgia for are VHS tape and multitrack cassette recorders.
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CarlTheTiger
Joined: Jul 14, 2010
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Central Texas
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Posted on Aug 10 2010 12:54 AM
My old TASCAM 4-track cassette deck is sitting in a spare bedroom. I got it new in the early 80s. Got a lot of use out of it for several years, but I wouldn't want to go back to it now. I did learn a lot with it and I think it was a great learning experience.
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websurfer
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Posted on Aug 10 2010 01:03 AM
CarlTheTiger
Stone knives and bearskins!
Nice Star Trek reference! A friend gave me his like new in the box Tascam 4 track cassette recorder when he went digital. I've never even broken it out to experiment with. I doubt I will, but who knows?
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Muddslide
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Gypsy Caravan
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Posted on Sep 03 2010 02:12 AM
I used Tascams and a few Fostex cassette 4-tracks for many years. In the late 90s I went to computer recording.
Recently a friend gifted me with a NOS Tascam...one of their cheapest models...and some new blank tapes.
I've been having a blast. I won't be jettisoning digital/computer recording altogether, but I have a couple of projects I'm working up with cassettes.
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djangodeadman
Joined: Jan 25, 2007
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Brighton UK
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Posted on Sep 03 2010 11:51 AM
estreet
I had an MT44 - what I used to do was mix down the first 4 tracks onto a stereo cassette deck then put that tape in to the MT44 and use the other 2 tracks then mix that down to stereo - it gave you 6 high quality(ish) tracks and worked pretty well. You couldn't do it with other 4-Track machines because they ran at double speed whereas the MT44 didn't.
True, although the double speed machines were higher quality in the first place, of course.
However, with careful planning and lots of pre-mixing along the way, you could get ten tracks onto a four track cassette with only one generation of bouncing (although it would seriously limit your ability to mix in stereo).
Record three tracks on tracks 1-3. Bounce these to track 4, whilst simultanously overdubbing a fourth track. Now record new tracks onto tracks 1 and 2, before bouncing them to track 3, whilst simultanously overdubbing a third track. You now have a total of seven tracks on tracks 3 and 4. Now record onto track 1, before bouncing to track 2, whilst simultanously overdubbing a second track (total track count is now nine). Now record your final track to track 1.
It's a hell of a lot of hassle, but it does work.
Personally, I prefer the modern way of doing things
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NoisyDad
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West Hartford, CT
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Posted on Sep 03 2010 12:39 PM
I would fill the 4 tracks, mix that down to stereo on my Mac, record the stereo back onto 2 tracks of the TASCAM, fill the other 2 tracks, mix again to stereo on the Mac, and so forth. I recorded an album that way between '97 and '02. I learned a lot about getting a good sound up front with mike selection and placement. I loved the flexibility of using outboard effects as well.
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Sep 03 2010 01:22 PM
NoisyDad
I would fill the 4 tracks, mix that down to stereo on my Mac, record the stereo back onto 2 tracks of the TASCAM, fill the other 2 tracks, mix again to stereo on the Mac, and so forth. I recorded an album that way between '97 and '02. I learned a lot about getting a good sound up front with mike selection and placement. I loved the flexibility of using outboard effects as well.
that's a cool way to track-bounce...I used to got to a nice stereo cassette deck and then back to the 4-track for my bounces...
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dboomer
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Port Hueneme, CA
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Posted on Sep 03 2010 11:41 PM
dp
having all the digital resources of cakewalk etc, does anyone else here even play around with the older simpler recording gear?
Dude ...What makes it simpler? Digital is easy
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dp
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
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mojave desert, california
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Posted on Sep 04 2010 10:37 AM
dboomer
dp
having all the digital resources of cakewalk etc, does anyone else here even play around with the older simpler recording gear?
Dude ...What makes it simpler? Digital is easy
simpler in the sense of less options available...primitive...
you're right, digital studios are super easy to operate...and have many features...
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midwestsurfer
Joined: Aug 09, 2007
Posts: 308
Indianapolis
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Posted on Sep 16 2010 07:05 PM
I still have and use my Tascam 424mkiii for home recording. I can't imagine using anything else at this point, though I can understand why lots of folks moved onto digital/computer recording.
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spy
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Athens, Greece
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Posted on Oct 17 2010 09:20 PM
I was bringing back in life my Marantz 4-track these days. I love analog and hate so much digital stuff! Just today I finished it and it's ready to record some new demo songs of my band!
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