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you surfyindustries guys should make a fun cheap housing/electronics to put our old crappy pans into so we can kick them for booooosh effects, instead risking our nice tanks and their fancy tubes

Bustercat wrote:

you surfyindustries guys should make a fun cheap housing/electronics to put our old crappy pans into so we can kick them for booooosh effects, instead risking our nice tanks and their fancy tubes

Well, the fact is that we have never sold crappy pans.

Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini
(www.surfmusic.net)

I assume Bustercat is referring to the old pans from other makers that will be replaced with SurfyBear pans. Great idea, Bustercat! Yes

Anyhoo, my SurfyPan arrives today. I'll follow up later after I install it. Cool

The doofus formerly known as Snorre
Surfysonic on YouTube
World Famous Philistines: 2014 - 2015
K39: 2013 - 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv9JADQ4ukw

Last edited: Sep 23, 2021 11:34:30

What Surfysonic said. I'm excited about getting my surfypan, unsure what to do with the old stock accutronic it is replacing.

Doorstop? Maybe an electric tambourine or baby rattle?

I think this is great, it must be difficult to alter something that Some musicians obviously non surf people might not even be aware of. But to have a company so into surf that they would spend time, money and research in trying to improve it is fantastic, what a great time we live in.

The Surfy Pan arrived! I finally had some free time this evening to try and figure out which amp to put it in by swapping out the stock onboard reverb tank.

I first tried the Vox AC15C1-TV, but it wasn't compatible. Which is OK, because the Vox Reverb sounds fine - I guess I hadn't really dialed in the EQ properly to get to sound how I like it. Anyhoo, sounds fine as is.

I played through my John Fromel Modded/fixed Fender "Custom" Vibrolux Reverb with 2x10 Jensen MOD speakers today. The stock onboard US-made Accutronics 4-spring reverb tank has a long decay. For ambience, that's alright, but for surf, not so much for me.

I installed the Surfy Pan into the Fender "Custom" Vibrolux Reverb. Happily, it was compatible and works great. What a huge difference with the shorter decay/reduced reverb tail! I feel like I'm playing a brownface Vibroverb or Super, only with a spiffy onboard reverb tank instead of an outboard reverb unit.

So what did I do with the US-made Accutronics 4-spring reverb tank from the Vibrolux? I had a look at my Fender FSR '65 Reissue Princeton Reverb and removed the (I guess) stock Ruby 4-spring reverb tank and installed the US-made Accutronics tank. Again, happily, it was compatible and sounds/works great in the Princeton Reverb. It just seems better suited with the smaller cabinet. The decay didn't seem so extended.

If you have a Fender '65 Reissue Princeton Reverb, I would then assume the Surfy Pan will work with it. Cool

The doofus formerly known as Snorre
Surfysonic on YouTube
World Famous Philistines: 2014 - 2015
K39: 2013 - 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gv9JADQ4ukw

Last edited: Sep 24, 2021 00:39:10

I got my pan!
The good news: It certainly takes the edge off the icepick.
The bad/weird news: It seems to have LONGER trails than my stock pan, and the one in the videos. I'll try to make a recording later.

Okay, here's audio files. The surfypan is CRAZY long. Maybe this one is defective?

Reissue tank settings: 7 7 7

NEW SURFYPAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Px_PoopOiPZzRE9ooInUK6esRVh4R-Ir/view?usp=sharing

OLD ACCUTRONICS PAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B0Bmh41HjlEfnkiDjKoIaWv7DWiZM0ZE/view?usp=sharing

Here's the pans:

image

Last edited: Sep 24, 2021 17:23:32

Bustercat wrote:

Okay, here's audio files. The surfypan is CRAZY long. Maybe this one is defective?

Reissue tank settings: 7 7 7

NEW SURFYPAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Px_PoopOiPZzRE9ooInUK6esRVh4R-Ir/view?usp=sharing

OLD ACCUTRONICS PAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B0Bmh41HjlEfnkiDjKoIaWv7DWiZM0ZE/view?usp=sharing

Here's the pans:

image

Hi and thanks for the feedbacks. Get in touch with us via email and we check. It could even be that you got an irregular one - I would NOT call it defective. Defective is one thing when it’s broken.

But my question is: you have a GOOD Accutronics one (the other I see in the photo), why did you need a SurfyPan?! The one you have is a properly build one, it’s an old one, I am not surprise if its decay is shorter than the SurfyPan all in all.

Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini
(www.surfmusic.net)

Anyway the comparison maybe is slightly wrong. The old pan is a short decay and as you see you have to push the reverb at 7 7 7 which is A LOOOOOOT. If I use any of my reverb tanks or SurfyBear at those settings I obtain a big and long reverb. You are unused probably to lower it all and I wouid be curious to hear a different setting on the reissue tank.
Like tone=6 mix=5 dwell=7

The sound on the demo is very compressed and aggressive too. What amp are you using? Remember much of the final reverb sound depends on the amp actually.

Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini
(www.surfmusic.net)

surferjoemusic wrote:

Anyway the comparison maybe is slightly wrong. The old pan is a short decay and as you see you have to push the reverb at 7 7 7 which is A LOOOOOOT. If I use any of my reverb tanks or SurfyBear at those settings I obtain a big and long reverb. You are unused probably to lower it all and I wouid be curious to hear a different setting on the reissue tank.
Like tone=6 mix=5 dwell=7

The sound on the demo is very compressed and aggressive too. What amp are you using? Remember much of the final reverb sound depends on the amp actually.

Cool, I'll email you. Maybe its an out of spec unit.

In the video you have your unit set to 777 (or maybe 666?) So I was trying to match that. I usually keep it around there anyway. I'm using my super champ xd through the clean channel. Compression is probably from it being recorded into my iPhone and clipping a bit. I've played this through other amps and it doesn't really sound that different in terms of trails.
And the issue of piercing highs with my old accutronics seems better with the surfypan, which is good, despite the longer tails. It's drippier and maybe a bit darker?

You mention surfypan probably has longer trails than my accutronics by design. But it's still a reissue pan. I thought it was longer than the true vintage ones, but shorter than or at least matched the older accutronics people buy on eBay (with inconsistent results)?

So, to help understand where surfypan fits in:

LENGTH OF TRAILS:
1. Gibbs (shortest)
2. USA made reissue Accutronics (90s, 2000s, etc.)
3. Surfypan
4. Modern accutronics (longest)

Is that the correct order?
I'm finding that dropping the dwell to 4 seems to get closer to my USA accutronics at 6.

Last edited: Sep 25, 2021 13:43:11

As far as I know accutronics was already property of Belton since the late 90s. The one you have is a 90s one, it’s almost the same of the SurfyPan but brighter therefore you have a different reverb feel. But it’s a good pan.

Accutronics by Belton can be extremely good and bad. They are never extremely bad and they are usually well done. I have some modern Accutronics that are exceptional, like the old Gibbs. Some others are very trashy. It depends on the batch of production.

And this is mainly what we have done - or trying to do - with the SurfyPan: proposing a consistent product.

Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini
(www.surfmusic.net)

Ok great!
Maybe there's something off about this particular surfypan's trails then. I get that this can happen in any production run.

I'm totally hearing the decreased brightness (which is great. And to be sure, it's plenty bright, but it's just not going as "over the top" as my old pan, which almost sounds harmonic/feedback-ish at times)... and it has a wonderful drip.
It's just the tails that sound excessive on this particular surfypan, closer to the "modern" pan in your video.

surferjoemusic wrote:

As far as I know accutronics was already property of Belton since the late 90s. The one you have is a 90s one, it’s almost the same of the SurfyPan but brighter therefore you have a different reverb feel. But it’s a good pan.

Accutronics by Belton can be extremely good and bad. They are never extremely bad and they are usually well done. I have some modern Accutronics that are exceptional, like the old Gibbs. Some others are very trashy. It depends on the batch of production.

And this is mainly what we have done - or trying to do - with the SurfyPan: proposing a consistent product.

Bustercat wrote:

Okay, here's audio files. The surfypan is CRAZY long. Maybe this one is defective?

Reissue tank settings: 7 7 7

NEW SURFYPAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Px_PoopOiPZzRE9ooInUK6esRVh4R-Ir/view?usp=sharing

OLD ACCUTRONICS PAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B0Bmh41HjlEfnkiDjKoIaWv7DWiZM0ZE/view?usp=sharing

Here's the pans:

image

I just ordered the Surfypan for my 6G15 and I had the exact same issue! The tail was WAAAAY too long and I was not able to dial it out with the controls. Luckily SurfyBear has a solid return policy and I was able to return it for a refund. This is the second SurfyBear product I haven't been satisfied with. I think I'll avoid in the future.

Sorry to hear the reports. Looks like the reverb trails are still too long for most people.

I'll recommend my simple Accutronics mod then. Place a small piece of foam under the springs so that it barely touches them (NOT the foam mute the pans are shipped with). The tail will be much shorter and there will still be plenty of drip.

The only downside is the springs will pick up stage floor noises much easier.

I got my new pan, I made a crummy comparison video in a cramped corner balancing on one foot.
I’m not sure
https://youtu.be/69Shy2eAEoM

dannylectro wrote:

Bustercat wrote:

Okay, here's audio files. The surfypan is CRAZY long. Maybe this one is defective?

Reissue tank settings: 7 7 7

NEW SURFYPAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Px_PoopOiPZzRE9ooInUK6esRVh4R-Ir/view?usp=sharing

OLD ACCUTRONICS PAN
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1B0Bmh41HjlEfnkiDjKoIaWv7DWiZM0ZE/view?usp=sharing

Here's the pans:

image

I just ordered the Surfypan for my 6G15 and I had the exact same issue! The tail was WAAAAY too long and I was not able to dial it out with the controls. Luckily SurfyBear has a solid return policy and I was able to return it for a refund. This is the second SurfyBear product I haven't been satisfied with. I think I'll avoid in the future.

Instead I swapped my Gibbs in my 1963 6G15 with a SurfyPan and… it was sounding exactly the same and still way too short Smile
So the conclusion is: all is very subjective. You can listen to me or to ANY of you but it will all be finally in your hands.

Have fun and happy new year!

Lorenzo "Surfer Joe" Valdambrini
(www.surfmusic.net)

I just bought the new pan, excited to try it.

Bustercat wrote:

What Surfysonic said. I'm excited about getting my surfypan, unsure what to do with the old stock accutronic it is replacing.

Doorstop? Maybe an electric tambourine or baby rattle?

Yeah, it'd be neat if someone made some sort of "DIY kit" for a spring reverb. Like maybe a populated PCB, so all the heavy lifting is done, and you just need to hook up knobs, power, an optional LED, and a reverb tank. Then you could put it in any enclosure you choose. That would be cool! ;)

I'm digging my new pan. Best of the lot!

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