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All,
After many years I am ready to replace my pickups for my Strat. Just got neck refretted, intonation fixed and she sounds great, but I'm not likely the lack of clarity and high end grittiness I get. Tech said pickups are overly hot. I'd like to get pickups that have a little heat, but can give me a clean tone at level 8. He suggested Vintage hot. Is there already a thread for this, if so point me in the direction. Sound I want is more like my old Reverb Galaxy days -Reverb Galaxy CD

89 Strat, plus hardware, stock pickups. Thanks, if you need more details on sound, let me know.

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Following, but I also gotta say I've had nothing but joy from my Fender Fat 50 pickups in my American Standard.

Silly question but have you tried lowering the pickups? Mine are almost flush with the pickguard and they're very clear and airy.

As for clean at 8 that all depends on the pickups, the pickup height, the guitar's pots, what's between the guitar and the amp plus the amp itself.

I set my amp with a moderate breakup then I roll back to 9 or 8 and it's perfectly clean.

With an always-on Fuzz Face (my actual rig) it's clean at 7, a tad hairy at 8, overdriven at 9 and fuzzed out at 10.

Pickups are spent. Adjusted by tech to even sound, need new ones.
Thinking 57/62s Fender, Fender 65 reissues or whatever "vintage hot" is.

Got about $250 or so to spend on a set of three.

Anybody use Fender noiseless for surf?

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The vintage reissue Fenders are good but they also have really high G string poles, which is great if you use a wound G but way too loud if you don't.

I just installed a set of Seymour Duncan Antiquity Surfers in my G&L Legacy, together with a push-pull volume pot to enable the bridge and neck pickups together, as well as all three. The stock G&L pickups are very good, but the Surfers are amazing! I can get a very realistic Jaguar tone when I combine the bridge and neck pickups together, and the normal strat sounds are extremely surfy, especially with my Surfybear in the signal chain. I highly recommend them. I paid $269 for the set. They are good for other genres of music, as well.

Wow,Redfeather thanks! I do use a round G string that sounds very timid.

But Bassman Bill, the Surfers sound good too, as I use a Surfybear and would like some "higher end" pickups. $270 very doable.

Decisions, decisions!!!!

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I second the antiquity surfers recommendation. I have a set in my baritone strat and they are the most balanced set I’ve used with the bridge being wound a little hotter than the neck and middle. It rounds off the super highs a little as well. That being said, they still sound like classic strat pickups to me.

I’ve also really liked the original 57/62 reissue pickups (before they changed them, I’ve never tried the more recent ones though the old ones had a bit more bite from what people said while the more recent ones were a little more accurate to the original pickups) as well as some d Allen Tru 59s which were fantastic sounding vintage style pickups. Both of these options are more faithful to vintage strat pickups as they are all sitting at 5 - 6ish in resistance with the the pickups being even (or at least super close). The surfers are about 6.3-5 for the neck and middle and my bridge pu reads 9.7 (but in reality isn’t big jump, it just balanced nicely.

I prefer the surfers now that I have tried them realizing that for me having a vintage sounding set but with better balance between the pickups and a fuller bridge pu made the guitar much more desirable to play when I also have other guitars to choose from. There are many that would prefer the more traditional pickups. There are others who will rightfully say that you can get all these pickups to sound fantastic and basically the same or you need to look elsewhere to improve your tone.

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Oh, and I have a wound g that sounds good with the surfers (though it did in the others I mentioned as well). As long as you have the traditional pole heights on the pickups you choose, that wound g will sounds right. A plain g will be loud though.

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Last edited: May 15, 2021 10:23:01

I've been through 57/62's, Fat 50's, PV 65's and have two different sets of D Allen's. I actually find that between all of them there is very little difference. Perhaps the Antiquity Surfers might be worth a listen but after all the comparisons, most of the vintage style pickups are very similar.

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I put duncan antiquities surfer pickups on one of my stratocasters and I never looked back. I have another stratocaster with Fat 50 and it sounds great but I always end with the strato with the surfers.

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Sounds like a shootout between surfers and 57/62s with no collateral damage. Thanks, getting excited about pickups!!!

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I love my fat 50’s. Best Strat pickups I have played.

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DiMarzio Area 58 for Neck and Middle and Area 61 for Bridge. I prefer them alot over the Antiquity Surfers, because they sound much more dynamic and lively.

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Anyone have experience with both the Fender Pure Vintage 59 strat set AND the 65 set? I have the 59 set and love it, but whenever I play my 60s Musicmaster, it has those bright, cutting 60s tones and I want that in my strat. The 59s are awesome but I’m finding myself cranking the treble on the amp to get them to be close to a 60s strat, and they are a little on the mellow side still. Would the Pure Vintage 65 set be worth the $150 or are they almost indistinguishable from the 59s? I can’t tell on YouTube vids and Gear Page people all talk about how the 65s are great for overdrive and rock, yada yada. Obviously I play surf so I don’t want a “hotter” pickup for overdrive, maybe some more output but I want that bright, trebly 60s strat sound like a jag. Some say they are close to the 59s, and if so, maybe not worth dropping the cash for something that won’t be like “wow that’s a difference, nice and bright now”. Thanks.

Last edited: Jun 23, 2021 14:30:22

I have a set of EMG Maverick 5's.
I kinda like them! Sound very Stratty to me, and no annoying noise, hum, or welding crap. Just click click click, done.

EMG’s Retro Active technology moves to the single coil arena. Constructed with custom wound coils and Alnico 5 magnets, the Maverick Five Set provides high powered surf Strat tones made famous by California artists like The Chantays, The Surfaris, and the king Dick Dale. Each pickup is uniquely voiced to create a brilliant combination when brought together, and stand up to anything position 1, 3 or 5 could ask for. Be prepared for the added punch and power of the active world married to the classic feel of passives. Like our Retro Active Humbuckers you get vintage tone with no buzz or hum. Welcome to the classic Strat tone without the classic Strat noise. Surfs up, bra!

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For those using the Antiquity II Surfers did you go with standard set with hot wound bridge and reverse wound middle?

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About 10, (maybe 12?) years ago I put a set of SD Antiquity IIs in my Highway 1 Strat. I couldn’t be happier.

The neck pickup is normal output, middle is about the same, and is RW. Bridge pickup, as mentioned above, is slightly hotter. That’s the way the set is shipped from Seymour Duncan.

What I really appreciate about them, is that you can dime them and they remain sweet and glassy.

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Thanks Clark. Good to know. I'm about 95% ready to pull the trigger on them.

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ArtS wrote:

For those using the Antiquity II Surfers did you go with standard set with hot wound bridge and reverse wound middle?

I have the set with the hotter bridge pickup. I love it. It balances so much better than a standard strat pu in my opinion and thickens the bridge pickup a bit while also rolling the highs. That being said, it still sounds like a strat pickup.

-Eric

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