PolloGuitar
Joined: Feb 26, 2006
Posts: 5080
San Francisco
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Posted on Jun 04 2021 12:10 AM
I love this guy David Bennet's youtube channel, and he has helped my understanding of music theory so much.
In this video, he dissects the phrygian mode, and mentions Miserlou and Dick Dale's performance of it. I don't want to spoil it for you, but he calls the Miserlou scale a double harmonic scale, not phrygian or byzantine.
I cued the video up to the Miserlou part, but check the whole video out, and Bennett's channel.
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cirecc
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
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Posted on Jun 04 2021 01:32 AM
I haven’t watched the video yet, but I would agree with not considering Miserlou to be in the Phrygian mode because the g (the third) would be natural (making it e minor) instead of sharp as it’s played in Miserlou (making it e major). However, I would argue that it’s in a Phrygian dominant scale which sharpens the third making it the “major” version of the standard Phrygian mode.
Edit:
I’ll have to see why they think it’s a double harmonic though. I usually see other sharpened/augmented notes added to those scales. Also, there are different variations of the double harmonic scale, so it might not really matter what I’ve seen in the past.
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Tikidog
Joined: Jun 23, 2006
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Posted on Jun 04 2021 02:04 AM
I used to see Miserlou being based on E phrygian dominant with a chromatic
approach to the root note.
If you want to explain the A section with an extra scale, i would agree with the name double harmonic scale. In the second part of the b section, over the F major/ E major chord, it clearly switches to E phrygian dominant (A harmonic minor)). You could also explain the G major chord in the B section with coming out of A natural minor.
using different minor scales is a common concept for songs based on chord progressions coming out if a minor key.
So the Miserlou chords could be explained this way:
E / F : A harmonic minor
Am G F: A natural minor
Since the Eb is used over the F chord, you could also see this one coming out of the double harmonic scale. I doubt that a lot of people would hear the E chord as an E major 7 ( try it and listen) and that‘s why i hear the Eb or D# as a chromatic approach to the root...
just my two cents as an ex jazz student
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cirecc
Joined: Mar 06, 2006
Posts: 292
seattle, wa
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Posted on Jun 04 2021 08:11 AM
Jeez, I haven’t played Misirlou in so long. I forgot about the d# in the beginning/a part and just thought of the d naturals that show up else where.
Then I guess “double harmonic” is accurate for about 2/3 of the song.
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ArabSpringReverb
Joined: Jul 13, 2012
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San Diego CA
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Posted on Jun 04 2021 10:52 AM
Ive been watching that channel for some months now ..very informative ...I can't say I understand it all but he is a good presenter and uses some well known pieces of music to demonstrate his points .
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