SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1347
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Aug 04 2019 12:22 PM
Hi guys, right now we are recording band practice with an iPhone XS Max. The video quality is fantastic, but the sound quality sucks. I am considering buying a Shure MV88 specifically made for iPhones.
The problem is, if we record at our gigs I will be concerned that my phone will get stolen. Therefore, we will probably use a camera/camcorder/GoPro out in public. I was wondering what is the best single mic for recording the entire band?
Shure recommended a PGA81 with an audio interface or mixer for phantom power. I wanted to get you guys' opinion before I made a purchase. Thank you for your help.
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DeathTide
Joined: Apr 13, 2018
Posts: 1343
New Orleans
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Posted on Aug 04 2019 04:57 PM
Audio Technica 8022. $400 stereo mic that will sound great for live stuff if placed properly. Also works great for practice, when placed properly.
— Daniel Deathtide
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derekirving
Joined: Nov 03, 2011
Posts: 658
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Posted on Aug 04 2019 08:33 PM
Those zoom hand held recorders work pretty good for audio. I’m following thread to see what others say. I’ve been using iPhone for a few months now (audio and video)
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1347
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Aug 05 2019 02:03 PM
That Audio Technica mic does look nice, but to be honest I can't afford it right now. I have done more research on the PGA81, and I think I will go with that one (along with a phantom powered mixer). Either way, it will be a huge improvement over the iPhone mic!
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale.
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1347
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Aug 06 2019 04:52 PM
Can someone please help me with the order of the cables/wiring? I am really confused as to what goes where. I have a Yamaha MG-10 10 channel mixer, Shure PGA81 mic, and a DSLR camera with a 3.55mm connector. Can you guys please tell me how to set up the mic to record the band?
Do I use a stereo or a mono 3.55 adapter cable? The bass player and the drummer are not running through the PA (when we use a PA), will the mic only pickup what is running through the the PA, or will it pick everything up? Please help, I am totally lost! 
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CreepBeat
Joined: Feb 25, 2016
Posts: 240
Seattle, WA
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Posted on Aug 07 2019 02:17 PM
I don't know what your budget is but if you are looking for a stereo mic for video, the Rode Stereo Video Mic Rycote is awesome: https://www.rode.com/microphones/stereovideomicpro
It sounds like you aren't trying to capture a stereo signal coming out of the PA because the drummer and bass player aren't going through it. In other words, if you just want to record what the band sounds like with a microphone, you don't need the PA in the mix - just the microphone into the DSLR. All you really need to do is to hook up your mic to your DSLR and if it's a stereo mic, use a stereo adapter cable or if it is mono, use a mono adapter cable. Or, in the case of the Rode mentioned above, just plug it in. 
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CreepBeat
Joined: Feb 25, 2016
Posts: 240
Seattle, WA
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Posted on Aug 10 2019 12:48 AM
Here's a video we took the other night at The Ritz in San Jose using the Rode (on a Fuji X-T2) for reference: https://youtu.be/UtRufwWS40o
Now that we have something that actually doesn't sound completely crap we can post some videos to those YouTubes haha.
— Skins for The Delstroyers
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LittleKahunaCraig
Joined: Jan 09, 2008
Posts: 369
Orange County, CA
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Posted on Aug 11 2019 11:14 PM
This could be the best $70 we spent on the band...I use a small camera tripod and put it in front of the band and have rechargeable aa batteries and have been using it for years with amazing results. Check out the milkman reverb demos on another thread for the audio quality we matched up with the the iPhone video.
https://www.guitarcenter.com/Tascam/DR-05-Solid-State-Recorder.gc?pdpSearchTerm=tascam%20dr
— Craig Skelly
Little Kahuna
www.littlekahunamusic.com
The Breakaways
The Curl Riders
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LittleKahunaCraig
Joined: Jan 09, 2008
Posts: 369
Orange County, CA
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Posted on Aug 11 2019 11:17 PM
Here are 3 videos with the audio all from the DR 5.
https://surfguitar101.com/forums/topic/32277/
— Craig Skelly
Little Kahuna
www.littlekahunamusic.com
The Breakaways
The Curl Riders
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da-ron
Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1299
The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Aug 12 2019 05:57 AM
I can strongly recommend the Zoom H2n in this situation. A lot of mic and recording options (Mono, X-Y, even quad!), and it sounds phenomenal. Runs on two AA batteries that last forever.
One of the best bits of recording equipment I've ever spent. It's small, unobtrusive and decently priced. I record our gigs and practices with this mounted on a mic stand. It can take some very loud performances. Manual recording level, but it has a compressor option to prevent any unexpected loud phrases from clipping.
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homerhead
Joined: Mar 17, 2006
Posts: 525
Portland, OR
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Posted on Aug 14 2019 11:52 AM
Totally agree on the Zoom recorders. I've used a Zoom H4n for a number of years and have been nothing but pleased.
da-ron wrote:
I can strongly recommend the Zoom H2n in this situation. A lot of mic and recording options (Mono, X-Y, even quad!), and it sounds phenomenal. Runs on two AA batteries that last forever.
One of the best bits of recording equipment I've ever spent. It's small, unobtrusive and decently priced. I record our gigs and practices with this mounted on a mic stand. It can take some very loud performances. Manual recording level, but it has a compressor option to prevent any unexpected loud phrases from clipping.
— Rick
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1347
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Aug 15 2019 09:47 AM
Thank you for all the recommendations, guys. I am very much considering buying either the DR-05 or a Zoom. My only question is, those are audio recorders, correct? How do I sync it up with my iPhone/camera video?
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale.
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DeathTide
Joined: Apr 13, 2018
Posts: 1343
New Orleans
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Posted on Aug 15 2019 11:19 AM
Plural Eyes to sync? You’ll need to throw the video on a timeline, and make sure your sound & video are the same frame rate. (That mostly means set to Zoom to 48k / 23.976 fps.)
Or, instead of Plural Eyes, you can just start both recorders at a similar time and give a big visual hand clap. You must see the clap on camera and hear on the Zoom. Then in your video timeline, nudge the sound until the clap of the sound matches the clap on video. Protip: do not cut either recorder for any reason once you start playing.
I’m a production sound guy for a living so I assumed you were asking about just a good budget stereo mic, not a whole system! I use that AT stereo mic for recording shows and as a room mic for practices. But I also throw out a pair of $2400 Schoeps haha!
Dan Izen
— Daniel Deathtide
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SixStringSurfer
Joined: Sep 23, 2014
Posts: 1347
Memphis, TN
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Posted on Aug 15 2019 06:06 PM
DeathTide, I'll research both ideas that you suggested. You are correct about me looking for a budget mic. Thanks for the advice!
— MooreLoud.com - A tribute to Dick Dale.
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da-ron
Joined: Jan 02, 2009
Posts: 1299
The original Plymouth, UK.
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Posted on Aug 16 2019 03:42 AM
I've found you can generally match the audio to the visuals pretty tightly, especially if you know the songs. You need to do it after each time you pause or stop the video or audio.
I used to work with 8mm film and a cassette recorder, so I'm pretty used to it - but with the digital stuff, once you've got it locked together it should stay in sync.
Edit: Are you sure you need the video? It's time and storage consuming dealing with video footage.
— http://thewaterboarders.bandcamp.com/
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