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This audio recording demonstrates the "Springs 63" reverb effect on the Zoom G1Xon guitar effects pedal. This pedal includes a wide variety of different reverb effects but also many other effects including compressions, amp emulations, and delays. Moreover, you can change sets of effects ("patches") almost instantly by pressing the "up" or "down" pedal.

To my ears the Springs 63 gives a pleasant rendition of an outboard reverb unit. Its intensity ("dwell"), percentage wet ("mix") and treble content ("tone") are adjustable (each 0 to 100) to produce mild, moderate or intense reverb. To avoid a shrill quality with higher levels of dwell and mix, I decrease the treble content. Combining compression with Springs 63 reverb increases the splash, especially when compression follows Springs 63 in the chain of effects.

In this recording I use the zoom G1Xon on the lead guitar for my surf guitar composition "Waterfall." For clarity of the lead guitar in this demonstration I removed the rhythm guitar and cut the percussion volume by about 5 db. Along the course of the song I used four different sets of effects that each include the Springs 63 reverb. The change in patches takes about a second to complete and you can hear it. The guitar is a Univox Coily archtop with its original single coil pickups at bridge and neck, both of which are on.

Here is the link to the recording: http://insanitizers.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/Waterfall-G1Xon-audio.mp3

from 0 - 45 sec mild compression followed by high reverb

45 sec - 1 min 44 sec high reverb followed by mild compression

1 min 44 sec - 2 min 2 sec mild overdrive followed by medium reverb

2 min 2 sec to end (about 2 min 30 sec) mild overdrive followed by high reverb

After the song I recorded 4 sec of muted alternating string open B open high E tic-tics first with mild compression followed by medium reverb in the chain. Then I repeated this note pattern with the four settings noted above.

After that section I recorded 4 sec of muted alternating string open low E open A tic-tics with the same settings used with the higher strings.

Here are the 5 settings used for the tic-tics at the end, in order:

  1. dwell=40, mix=40, tone = 60, amp = FD combo ("mild compression then medium reverb")
  2. dwell=70, mix=65, tone=36, amp = FD combo ("mild compression then high reverb")
  3. dwell=60, mix=60, tone=60, amp=FD combo ("high reverb followed by mild compression')
  4. dwell=62, mix=50, tone=20, amp=VX combo ("mild OD followed by medium reverb")
  5. dwell=70, mix=65, tone=20, amp=VX combo ("mild OD followed by high reverb")

Which do I like best? All; it depends on the song. In performances I use these--and many other patches--on different songs. The pedal has marvelous delays and plate reverbs. I love the variety in reverby tones.

A complete version of Waterfall with the #3 mix on the lead guitar can be found on Youtube with this link: https://youtu.be/PyrqU2RY1yE (although I used a different guitar).

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Last edited: Nov 25, 2018 20:19:50

A new Zoom G1Xon costs $68 to $80 and Guitar Center now offers a used one for $50. It weighs 1.4 pounds and its size is 6" x 9" x 2". If mine were stolen I'd buy another immediately. As the youtube video I linked to shows, in a mix it sounds gorgeous. A volume pedal by itself costs more, and this unit includes a volume pedal besides reverbs, delays, flanges, choruses, compressions, EQs, wahs, bass emulations, amp modeling and speaker modeling.

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Last edited: Nov 27, 2018 20:52:22

I have to say, that sounds quite good. Thanks for the comprehensive demo

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Last edited: Mar 10, 2020 15:55:01

Demo is great. Full Compass has the Zoom G1Xon for $59.99
At some point I'll pick one up to use as a headphone amp....sounds like it
would be perfect for late night jamming.

Thanks for listening.

For muted tic-tics I can bump the reverb dwell and mix up much higher and get extreme splashing.

This pedal also has terrific Rautalanka tones with stacked delays (AKA "twisting echos")--if you want to sound like Hank Marvin or Matti Luhtala.

Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com

Last edited: Jul 09, 2019 16:57:15

Very cool squid!

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Sounds really nice..

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Yeah the Zoom sounds nice Squid Cool

Is that the Beat-Buddy pedal in the background? Sounds like you could compress the drums a little to pop out in the mix a little better. My pedal sounds like that too, just not enough punch for me, I think the Beat Buddy needs to be compressed a little it seems like.

Thanks, David, James and Sam!

One notable concern for any effect pedal is that its sound depends on the amplifier used with it. The tones on my recordings are the same as I get live with a bass guitar amp, PA, acoustic guitar amp or keyboard amp. When I gig or rehearse I use one of these (and it also suits Beat Buddy). Yes I have regular guitar amps (including all tube Class A) but I quit using them. I use the same amp for electric, acoustic and bass guitars, guitar synth and Beat Buddy.

I'm hoping to record an Apache video with the Zoom soon, with a demo of some delays in the Zoom useful for the Shadows + Rautalanka sound.

Sam, I use Beat Buddy only for gigs and rehearsals. For recordings I use a drummer with a detailed plan for percussion, as in this recording (because I can not arrange such variations or precision on the Beat Buddy): https://youtu.be/mX956OD7nLc

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Last edited: Jul 13, 2019 10:49:23

FYI, here's a nice looking application I came across, to help with designing presets for Zoom devices, for any platform.

Last edited: Jul 15, 2019 00:04:45

Ariel, nice find. Until now I overlooked the G1Xon USB port. What looks useful is saving in my computer the details of the many surf and Rautalanka patches I constructed.

It is very easy and fast to construct and revise patches within the G1Xon, but getting "the sound I want" has involved many many trial-and-error adjustments. It is so easy to revise patches that bringing a computer into the revision method should increase time and effort. But a computer should help in recording their details.

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Last edited: Jul 14, 2019 12:26:44

The ToneLib Zoom software has a troublesome bug. When you use it to change a patch it sometimes overwrites one of your other patches, apparently with the patch you just changed. This is in addition to saving the altered patch as it should.

Fortunately my first action with ToneLib Zoom was to back up the patches in my pedal. Then when I saw the overwrite I just restored from the backup.

I verified that my Zoom G1Xon firmware is the latest version (1.21), so that's not a factor. I noticed in their ToneLib Zoom forum that someone else had previously complained of the same bug.

The USB cable for my Beat Buddy pedal is the only cable I have that fits to connect the Zoom USB port to my computer.

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Hi Squid, You have mentioned your bass guitar amp in several of your posts. What brand/model is it, if you don't mind revealing your secret weapon.

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I'm sorry Squid, that's very unfortunate. Bugs exist, but from now on I'll refrain from linking to software I'm not %100 sure of and experienced myself. Relieved to know you sorted it out.

SilverFlash wrote:

Hi Squid, You have mentioned your bass guitar amp in several of your posts. What brand/model is it, if you don't mind revealing your secret weapon.

Hi, Silver,
I use Ashdown bass amp heads, a MiBass 2.0 and a Five-15. The MiBass weighs about 7 pounds and is said to be 400 watts RMS. The Five-15 weighs probably twice that (from the wood case) and is said to be 200 watts RMS. I have seen the MiBass on Ebay (used) for $100 but also for several times that. Many different lightweight high-powered bass amp heads are available these days.

The power goes into a 2-way crossover network, then to a piezo tweeter and a hemp-cone neodymium 12" high power speaker. I mount the 12" speaker in a cabinet previously used for a combo amp from the 60s that expired. The hemp-cone speaker was reconed by an artisan so does not directly compare to a commercially produced speaker.

Sometimes I use a Carvin neodymium 12" PA speaker instead of the hemp-cone, also with the piezo tweeter. The Carvin PA has deeper bass and is more neutral (like a hifi speaker).

The tweeter gives me a sweet and extended treble important for Beat Buddy and acoustic guitar as well as surf and Rautalanka. I get plenty of treble without penetrating harshness.

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Last edited: Jul 15, 2019 15:27:40

Ariel wrote:

I'm sorry Squid, that's very unfortunate. Bugs exist, but from now on I'll refrain from linking to software I'm not %100 sure of and experienced myself. Relieved to know you sorted it out.

Ariel, I benefited from the program you cited because it backs up my patches. By itself that's plenty for me to appreciate. I also learned that I can specify a minimum limit on the range for the volume pedal, and this is important for making the volume pedal usable. Also, maybe the bug will be fixed eventually!

Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com

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