stratdancer
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Nov 19 2018 04:31 PM
I've wanted to post this topic for awhile. When I first started playing surf there was the Boss pedal or the real thing. Now You have so many to choose from with the Surfy Bear leading the pack.
Just a hunch but I think more people want to play surf guitar. Maybe not but with so many new pedals coming out that cater to the sound you just have to ask yourself.....why?
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Samurai
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Kiev, Ukraine
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Posted on Nov 20 2018 12:55 AM
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DeathTide
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New Orleans
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Posted on Nov 20 2018 10:24 AM
I think it’s the “everything digital” thing. You know, that wave that began in the mid / late 80s? CDs, digital tv & cameras, it’s just finally made its way to spring reverb. Maybe? Remember how TERRIBLE digital reverb was for a few decades?
I’d love to think it’s people getting into surf, but I think it’s more about technology catching up.
— Daniel Deathtide
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Chippertheripper
Joined: Mar 11, 2011
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Semass
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Posted on Nov 20 2018 10:52 AM
As much as it’s about technology, it tells us that there’s a market for that sound.
That should put a smile on all of our faces.
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matt
Joined: Oct 18, 2010
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Boston, MA
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Posted on Nov 20 2018 03:43 PM
I know! and has anyone tried the Keeley Verb O Trem?
— Matt Heaton & the Electric Heaters
"Dick Dale meets Dennis Lehane"
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stratdancer
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 04:59 AM
I think anyone new coming into surf music will find it very easy to achieve surf tone nowadays.
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 06:25 AM
DeathTide wrote:
I think it’s the “everything digital” thing. You know, that wave that began in the mid / late 80s? CDs, digital tv & cameras, it’s just finally made its way to spring reverb. Maybe? Remember how TERRIBLE digital reverb was for a few decades?
I’d love to think it’s people getting into surf, but I think it’s more about technology catching up.
I’m with DeathTide in this one. Many of the pedals sold today are imply packages for DSPs. A pedal maker might have any number of different models which use the same DSP, but are programmed differently and have different paint schemes. As the art of programming these DSPs advances, they can fine tune the various effects and update the product line to be more aligned with the wishes of the consumers, but I think it’s more a matter of ongoing development than of any revolutionary change.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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bamboozer
Joined: Jan 18, 2010
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Delaware
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 07:27 AM
As noted part of it is just because the technology is there, but a part of it is that these peddles are good, really good and useful for many genres. If your doing original music it's a matter of you have to check them out before someone else makes that sound their own.
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CrazyAces
Joined: Jul 31, 2012
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Nashville, TN.
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 08:16 AM
Reverb as an effect seems to be popular at the moment in many genres.
A friend of mine who is a very busy, active studio musician here in Nashville told me that producers and engineers are asking the players for Reverb a lot, different and unique Reverbs as well, not just the usual plate,spring stuff.
Extra, extra..read all about it...Reverb makes a comeback!
As a person who loves Reverb I feel it's a great time to be a player and have all these choices.
Cheers,
Jeff
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DeathTide
Joined: Apr 13, 2018
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New Orleans
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 09:12 AM
Is there a good plate reverb pedal?!!!
— Daniel Deathtide
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derekirving
Joined: Nov 03, 2011
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 12:02 PM
There are TONS of plate reverb pedals, one I thought was great was Dr Scientist Reverberator
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 06:18 PM
DeathTide wrote:
Is there a good plate reverb pedal?!!!
derekirving wrote:
There are TONS of plate reverb pedals, one I thought was great was Dr Scientist Reverberator
Plate is my favorite reverb. I have a TC Electronics Hall of Fame Mini into which I loaded the plate reverb option and it sounds quite nice. I use it as my default, go to, reverb.
I also have a Stanley Blue Nebula, which has a wonderful emulation of Abbey Road Studio’s plate reverb. I have used that on some patches in the Blue Nebula to good effect. It will even drip if you push it hard enough, but the main point is that it’s just a darned good reverb.
I’m probably going to risk a lynching by saying this, but I’ve come to prefer plate as my sound and either of my plate emulators will, indeed, drip. No, it’s not The Astronauts’ sound, but I like it for my sound. I still have my tank, and I have a Catalinbread Topanga for a spring reverb emulation pedal, but I could life happily with plate reverb emulation for the rest of my days.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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synchro
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Not One-Sawn, but Two-Sawn . . . AZ.
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 06:40 PM
derekirving wrote:
There are TONS of plate reverb pedals, one I thought was great was Dr Scientist Reverberator
Durn it! Looks like I’ll be spending some money, soon. 
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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stratdancer
Joined: Dec 11, 2013
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 07:44 PM
For surf verb I love my surfy bears but I do like the idea of having one of the newer pedals that go in different directions. I started surf with a HOF and really dug many of the settings but it didn't surf so I got rid of it. I miss some of those more ambient reverb sounds.
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josheboy
Joined: Mar 13, 2009
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Twin Cities, MN
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Posted on Nov 21 2018 10:11 PM
With all these new spring reverb pedals, we’re going to need more variations of my fave sg101 smiley
We can now have like 10 different versions of it!!
Someone get on that.
Also, we need more reverb pedal memes. Like this one
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Delrin96mm
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Posted on Nov 23 2018 04:21 PM
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tubeswell
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Wellington, NZ
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Posted on Nov 23 2018 04:35 PM
Sure seems to be a lot more reverb pedals around.
And it seems that there's a resurgence of more people tuning back into surf in my neck of the woods, but I would say that the reason more manufacturers are producing more reverb pedals is that surf is even more of a global phenomenon than it used to be, and so there's more of a market.
I only have 1 reverb pedal (Flint) for some of my amps that don't have onboard verb. Otherwise most of my amps have spring reverb and nothin' beats my tank
— He who dies with the most tubes... wins
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synchro
Joined: Feb 02, 2008
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Posted on Nov 23 2018 07:56 PM
Delrin96mm wrote:
I'm pedal-bored! What all the new drip reverb pedals out there are telling me personally is that all the "choices" and endless "options" on offer at the moment just add up to a massive, enervating, empty, expensive distraction. I've sold my Strymon Flint, scrapped plans to buy an EHX Oceans 11 and not watched a pedal demo for about four weeks now. It feels great! All I want is a decent guitar and a decent amp.
I know a lot of you guys enjoy trying out new pedals and tone chasing, etc., and I'm not saying this to step on anyone's toes. It's just that I feel there really is a huge downside to this "Golden Age of Effects Pedals" that we're apparently living in at the moment. To me, too many people offering too many variations of the same thing (particularly something as elusive as the sound of "genuine" spring reverb in digital form) just creates a toxic set of false expectations, artificial "needs", unnecessary expense and a constant sense of anxiety that the magic box of tricks you spent your hard-earned cash on today will be superseded by another, better box of tricks tomorrow.
At the beginning of the month, on the "Best tubes for surf" thread, Murph posted a link to a video by an excellent rockabilly guitarist from Germany called Randy Richter. I was so taken with the simplicity of the guy's setup - a couple of good guitars, one good amp, a bit of echo - and the emphasis he placed on passion, enjoyment and dedication to one's craft over the acquistion of "stuff" that I haven't watched a pedal review since. If I can save up the money for ONE Vox AC15 and ONE Fender (or good Squier) Jazzmaster, that will be enough for me and I'll be very happy indeed.
In many ways, I agree with you, although I plead “not guilty” when it comes to tone chasing.
I have played many a gig with simply a Gretsch, a Deluxe Reverb and a patch cable, but two of my favorite amps, a Winfield Cyclone and a Winfield Tremor, do not have onboard reverb, so I need some sort of outboard reverb. I own a reissue tank, but don’t always feel like schelpping it to gigs, especially when the gig only lasts an hour or two, so a reverb pedal makes life easier.
Hey, this ain’t Rocket Surgery. Reverb pedals are a second-best solution, but they can be a good solution, especially if you’re trying to save a buck. I’m glad to see that the art is advancing and that reverb pedals are sounding better as time goes on. The Ventris Dual Spring sounds exceptionally good to my ear, as do some of the others.
But I agree wholeheartedly that there are many players, not just in this genre, but in many genres, who seem all but obsessed with pedals. Reverb, delay and perhaps a tremolo pedal can be nice, especially if you are using an amp that lacks reverb and/or tremolo. But just a good sounding amp and a good sounding guitar can be amazing.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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Chippertheripper
Joined: Mar 11, 2011
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Semass
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Posted on Nov 23 2018 08:44 PM
I went to my local crack dealer today and played with a few of these.
The flint, oceans 11, and the true spring.
Both the o11 and ts drip. But the trails on the o11 were really unnatural sounding. With the ts the tails are most natural in the short spring setting, but at the sacrifice of drip at that point. It does the spring thing, but not astronauts’ style. I did not play with the ts tremolo at all.
The flint had the most natural sounding trails to me, and great trem, but not as much drip as I know some of you like.
I’d like to be able to fit a flint on my board. It was easily the most well rounded.
That new chase bliss dark world had all sold out immediately and there weren’t any left in stock to noodle with. It’s really a great time to explore spring sounds as a player.
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stratdancer
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on Nov 24 2018 06:00 AM
Just remember that two reverb units are better than one! At home I have been running two separate surfy bears into separate amps. The stereo split takes place at my El Capistan. One surfy is running a revisit pan which sounds exceptional and the other runs a MOD pan which is completely different but very complimentary. Inexpensive reverb technology makes it all happen!
— The Kahuna Kings
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