SlippyFingers
Joined: Jul 20, 2016
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Posted on May 20 2018 03:35 PM
Hi everybody, I was wondering what you guys would recommend as a solid surf amp?
I want to record some tracks, the style is close to surf rock, and I've been using Logic Pro SurfinStereo Plugin for sound modelling so far. Now I would like to use real gear on my new stuff. I have a Fender USA Fat Strat. I am not into that authentic thing, just want a good vintage sound. I checked a few pedals and thought of getting a Strymon Flint for reverb and tremolo (not decided yet).
If I focus on recording only and I buy a new amp:
- Do I need a powerful amp?
- Is one speaker enough or should I get a two-speaker amp (you only mic one speaker right?)?
- What features should the amp have (e.g. own reverb unit) to get a good surf sound - I would prefer something vintage and not to modern.
What about all the new fender 60s series combos (Princeton etc.)? Can I do anything wrong with those?
thx!
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stratdancer
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on May 20 2018 04:02 PM
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DannySnyder
Joined: Mar 02, 2006
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on May 20 2018 04:05 PM
Now, now Dave this is a forum, no need to end discussions.
Do you plan on playing on playing with other people at some point SlippyFingers?
— Danny Snyder
Latest project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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SlippyFingers
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Posted on May 20 2018 04:14 PM
Do you plan on playing on playing with other people at some point SlippyFingers?
Not really, I'm more a drummer. But I don't have a band and a guitar player, so I play all instruments myself.
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DannySnyder
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Berkeley, CA
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Posted on May 20 2018 04:20 PM
If you want a good vintage-y surf tone, put your money into a SurfyBear pedal and a decent used amp that isn't a total distortion machine, in the 25-50 watt range. Since you're overdubbing you don't have to crank the amp so you can keep the tone pretty clean.
— Danny Snyder
Latest project - Now That's What I Call SURF
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"With great reverb comes great responsibility" - Uncle Leo
I'm back playing keys and guitar with Combo Tezeta
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ausf
Joined: Apr 20, 2018
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Posted on May 20 2018 05:04 PM
With the understanding that I'm a bass player just trying out surf guitar and under the heading of 'what do I know?' I've been researching the hell out of this stuff in the past month, shooting for what exactly what you're doing as well.
Not playing out, just recording, but wanted a valve amp that I could switch out tubes for different flavors, etc, but can run from ultra clean to the Tony Iommi British overdrive.
I ended up with a Blackstar HT-1 non reverb and couldn't be happier. It's 1 watt, perfect for practice, can get a bit loud with the OD, but it's attenuated for headphones or recording, can get a full gamut of sounds at a amazing price ($220 to my door).
I didn't go with reverb since I already bought an EH Holy Grail (trying to coax my bass amps into a useable sound (no go), but I'm even happier since I have Surfy Bear and Trem DYIs on the way as well as a Revisit spring tank.
If I had more money to throw at it, I'd look at some of the other options, but my project required a guitar (60s Lac Jag) and a Moog Theremini, plus the additional reverb, the Blackstar was exactly what the doctor ordered.
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Tqi
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Posted on May 20 2018 05:06 PM
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stratdancer
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on May 20 2018 05:29 PM
With the emphasis on recording, a tube amp is the way to go. The smaller reissues would be nice but maybe the best sleeper deal would be a silverface twin reverb. Depending on your area you can find these pretty cheap on craigslist because people don't want to schlep them around. The onboard reverb can be jacked up to get a pretty decent drip.
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WoodyJ
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Bethlehem, GA
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Posted on May 20 2018 07:27 PM
Fender Deluxe Reverb or Vibrolux Reverb.
Strictly for recording, the Deluxe
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The Mariners (1964-68, 1996-2005)
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CrazyAces
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Nashville, TN.
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Posted on May 20 2018 10:11 PM
For recording and even for some live work I'm going to once again suggest a Princeton Reverb, reissue or original.
Cheers,
Jeff
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casey
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Posted on May 20 2018 10:21 PM
If you just want to record and don't want to spend a lot of money check out a used Vox DA-5. I have an original BF Princeton reverb, Vibrolux Reverb, and a couple of Super Reverbs (all 1966 or 1967) and a fender Deluxe Reverb reissue. I am amazed at how close the little DA-5 comes to the sounds of these Fender tube amps. And, if has a decent reverb and delay effect built in. For around $100 you can't beat it.
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palo
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fresno california u.s.a.
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Posted on May 21 2018 12:58 AM
Another vote for FENDER PRINCETON REVERB
their very sweet amps
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casey
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Posted on May 21 2018 02:38 AM
I totally agree with the Princeton Reverb if you have the $$. If money is an issue, you can get 90%+ of the sound at 10% of the cost with the little Vox.
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SlippyFingers
Joined: Jul 20, 2016
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Posted on May 21 2018 03:06 AM
OK, thx so far! I just ordered a Surfy Bear Reverb and will go for a one speaker fender tube amp.
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Tailrocker
Joined: May 09, 2018
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Morgantown, WV
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Posted on May 21 2018 01:54 PM
My 2 pesos is an old Vibro-Champ. True, single-ended amps sound different to push-pull, but not in a bad way; it's a matter of taste.
Mic it up in a nice room and add reverb. Turn up past 6 for some grit if you like. It already has great tremolo.
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synchro
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Posted on May 22 2018 08:16 AM
IMO, it’s hard to beat a Deluxe Reverb.
— The artist formerly known as: Synchro
When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.
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SlippyFingers
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Posted on May 22 2018 03:05 PM
Does effect pedal routing affect a decision buying an amp, if I plan to use reverb and tremolo partly simultaneously? From what I understand you all just route the pedals before the amp? With all the old combos the only other solution would be an extra routing pedal, right?
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stratdancer
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Akron, Ohio
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Posted on May 22 2018 06:16 PM
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da-ron
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Posted on May 23 2018 07:55 AM
Tailrocker wrote:
My 2 pesos is an old Vibro-Champ. True, single-ended amps sound different to push-pull, but not in a bad way; it's a matter of taste.
Mic it up in a nice room and add reverb. Turn up past 6 for some grit if you like. It already has great tremolo.
I'll second this. You don't need much more than a 5W amp to record with. There's a nice little Champ XD that's pretty sweet.
If you're getting a good sound with plugins though, i'd stick with that.
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DonB
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Posted on Oct 28 2018 04:01 PM
synchro wrote:
IMO, it’s hard to beat a Deluxe Reverb.
So true, so true. Even the reissues sound good. There are getting to be more and more people that are making repros of this as well. Find yourself a silverface Deluxe reverb. Don't worry about it being a silverface. The circuit didn't change much.
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