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I have read his entire thread and I’m surprised that there has not been a single mention of the strings I use!

DR Zebras .12 - .52.

They are called “acoustic-electric” and are (I believe) a round core wound set with both nickel and brass. If you look up close they look like a zebra, or the Jungle Fever movie poster. I got them by accident years ago just wanting to try something different for an 80s MIJ strat. Since then they have gone on a MIM strat and an AVRI jag.

They have the perfect mix of thunky with bright, and they last many years, and just get better with time.

Just got the jag and immediately ordered the .13 - .56 set for that, as the .12s feel kinda wussy. The nut will need some filing and I’m too scared to do that myself so I’m gonna take it to someone for that. I’ll report back!

Mrgreen wrote:

seamoor
I think I have experimented with just about everything, over the years--but, in the end I always preferred pure nickel flats in most cases. I put 13's on a Jag, but have them backed down to 12's now, and am thinking about backing them down to 10's on my JM. I use TI strings, although I love Pyramids, which I have on a Ric 660-12. They seem more high tension to me than TI's, and my hands are not getting any stronger or tougher. Just the reverse. Gotta protect them, now. Look what happened to Phantom Frank! It can happen to you!

I realize this post is 10 years old but I wanted to chime in. Tendinitis absolutely does not bypass the muscle, it first inflames the muscle and eventually reaches the tendon. Muscles being vascular are much quicker to heal, which may give the impression of the inflammation traveling through it. The bottom line is this: if your arm, wrist or shoulder muscles continue to be sore after a few hours, especially days after playing - they are inflamed; further, that will eventually spread to your tendons and those will take months or years to heal. And they can only heal with zero pressure! Pressure = whatever motion caused the inflammation. Long story short, you’ll basically have to stop playing until they heal.

kick_the_reverb wrote:

For years I have been doing something similar with D'Addario ECG24‑7 7‑String Chrome Flat Wounds, so I am left with:
.015, .022, .030, .040, .050, .065
Guitar is tuned down a whole step to D.
I really wish there was a way to get all of them wound (the .015 is plain) but that is not possible.

I want this too! I’d love a whole set of wound rounds. The smallest wound I could find is a .17 from D’Addario...

Dan Izen

Daniel Deathtide

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Last edited: Feb 02, 2024 13:50:01

Tqi wrote:

DeathTide wrote:

I have read his entire thread and I’m surprised that there has not been a single mention of the strings I use!

DR Zebras .12 - .52.

To be fair on the thread, putting acoustic guitar strings on an electric is pretty out there. Wink - By acoustic-electric, they mean... a Gibson L-5 or a Stratacoustic! There's something to be said though, for not playing by the rules: Surf Guitar particularly, we run guitar through bass amps, abuse vintage effects and run strings thicker than the fingerboard slab. This to me sounds a cool crazy-idea and I'd love to hear some samples of the tone. Nice!

Dang it I have no idea how to attach an mp3. But here is a dropbox link to a short sample. It's the beginning of my adaptation of Czardas (renamed Shart Dash), a Hungarian folk song. The guitar is an 80s Japanese Squier (with an awesome thing D neck!) through a 1972 Twin.
(EDIT: It's from an early practice and very sloppy, tons of mistakes. So don't judge, I can play it better now!)

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/v9nh5h4vp56cm2q/AADSfiNPE4deSjl26bOkMl0Ea?dl=0

I just took my new jag to the guitar shop here in NO and the dude said he'd never heard of anyone ever using those strings on an electric! I had no idea it was so weird. Kind of like when my cats got fixed I asked to keep their parts and they gave them to me in jars of formaldehyde as if it was no big deal. Later they told me no one had ever asked for that before - dang!

Anyway - open message to folks on this board - try Zebras! They are not too bright and not too dull, a perfect blend in my opinion. They only make them up to .13 - .56 though.

Tqi wrote:

You could always go into short scale bass strings from there. The E and A in that set are both thicker than the E on my bass after all. 17 to 70 could well be doable using a mix of electric and electric bass strings, in Flat or Round.

Huh! That would be interesting. The guitar shop dude said going wound can mess up the intonation, even for a wound G. Which I love. I hate how screechy the non-wound strings are. They are so much better after they age and get dull. A fellow on this board many years ago in this thread mentioned using chapstick to dull - I've been doing that! It hasn't seemed to affect the high strings yet but it might have dulled the wound strings a little...

Dan Izen

Daniel Deathtide

Last edited: May 02, 2018 18:24:23

I'm in love with my coated DR 10-46's. But, I'd be more than happy to hear any new recommendations for 10's.

Green_Meanie wrote:

I'm in love with my coated DR 10-46's. But, I'd be more than happy to hear any new recommendations for 10's.

I've been using D'Addario EXL110W's with a wound G on my Les Paul and my Hallmark 65 Custom. They're very nice strings. But I recently switched to D'Addario NYXL1046 Balanced Tension strings. They're a lot more expensive, but to me, they're worth it, even though they don't have a wound G. Check out some reviews.

Hi all,
does anyone here have a good source for Pyramid Gold Flatwounds? (13-52/56, 4 sets)
Availability is lacking on the sites I checked, and others look shabby...
Looking to not pay more than $20 a set, and reasonable international shipping.

No?

http://www.juststrings.com/pyr-gf613.html

Under $20 seems like a tall order for Pyramids given D'Addario Chromes are already around $15.

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h3dg3h0g wrote:

No?

http://www.juststrings.com/pyr-gf613.html

Under $20 seems like a tall order for Pyramids given D'Addario Chromes are already around $15.

Thanks! Could be, but their intl. shipping is a fixed $25 which is stupid. Maybe I'll bulk. Most sites sell the sets withing $20-$30 range. Some have the shipping pretty low, but are out of stock.

http://www.stringsandbeyond.com/pyr-el-fw-rnd.html

Hey there! It's $92.80 for four sets shipped to Israel.

I just bought two sets (13-52).

_

Hi, I'm Gellert, guitarist for The Fintastics.

https://www.facebook.com/TheFintastics

Thank you. I guess it's the best deal available now.
Cheers!

Consider Thomann also... Their shipping is €30 fix but the string sets are cheaper.

Cheers,
Andy

www.LosVenturas.be

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Last edited: Feb 02, 2024 14:23:54

Flatwounds $10 per set from Webstrings
https://www.webstrings.com/products/electric-guitar-strings-stainless-steel-flatwound

Insanitizers! http://www.insanitizers.com

Squid wrote:

Flatwounds $10 per set from Webstrings
https://www.webstrings.com/products/electric-guitar-strings-stainless-steel-flatwound

Interesting! I wonder who's the manufacturer.

Meanwhile, I got my Pyramid Gold from Strings and Beyond, and I can recommend their flawless service.

www.stringsbymail.com has Pyramid Gold's starting at $19.95:
(https://www.stringsbymail.com/electric-guitar-strings-8/pyramid-1043/gold-chrome-flat-wound-1117/)
Full disclosure, I worked for this company when it was owned by a friend a decade ago. It's a good source. I still but from them regularly.

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Squid wrote:

Flatwounds $10 per set from Webstrings
https://www.webstrings.com/products/electric-guitar-strings-stainless-steel-flatwound

I've been using these for a few years now, really like them a lot! Before that I was using D'Aquisto flats and I'm pretty sure these are the same strings.

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I started using D'Adarrio brand strings of all kinds a couple of years ago, simply because they were packaged in sealed bags, which REALLY mattered at the time, because I was living in the super-high humidity of Hawaii. I've since moved, but I still like (and use) D'Addarios, including their 011-050 ECG24 flatwound Chrome sets on my Jag and JM, which I get directly from Amazon with free shipping for $15/set. Unfortunately, I don't really know just yet how these compare with others, including Pyramid, TI, etc.

I should also add that I'd love to try something heavier than 011-050, but I'm afraid of the neck bow that I'm likely to get from cables that thick, especially flatwounds, which seem to cause more concavity on the neck than round-wound strings of the same gauge. And I HATE removing the neck every single time to adjust the truss rod, because eventually, the threads in the wood of the neck will give-out. I'm sure of it!

"Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit them with it." - Boris the Blade

Last edited: Mar 03, 2019 11:50:22

Ringo wrote:

I started using D'Adarrio brand strings of all kinds a couple of years ago, simply because they were packaged in sealed bags, which REALLY mattered at the time, because I was living in the super-high humidity of Hawaii. I've since moved, but I still like (and use) D'Addarios, including their 011-050 ECG24 flatwound Chrome sets on my Jag and JM, which I get directly from Amazon with free shipping for $15/set. Unfortunately, I don't really know just yet how these compare with others, including Pyramid, TI, etc.

I should also add that I'd love to try something heavier than 011-050, but I'm afraid of the neck bow that I'm likely to get from cables that thick, especially flatwounds, which seem to cause more concavity on the neck than round-wound strings of the same gauge. And I HATE removing the neck every single time to adjust the truss rod, because eventually, the threads in the wood of the neck will give-out. I'm sure of it!

D'Addario Crome Flats have more lbs of tension than other strings at A440 tuning such as TI Flat (at comparable string gauges).

Lorne
The Surf Shakers: https://www.facebook.com/TheSurfShakers
Vancouver BC Canada

Last edited: Mar 03, 2019 13:08:59

shake_n_stomp wrote:

Ringo wrote:

I started using D'Adarrio brand strings of all kinds a couple of years ago, simply because they were packaged in sealed bags, which REALLY mattered at the time, because I was living in the super-high humidity of Hawaii. I've since moved, but I still like (and use) D'Addarios, including their 011-050 ECG24 flatwound Chrome sets on my Jag and JM, which I get directly from Amazon with free shipping for $15/set. Unfortunately, I don't really know just yet how these compare with others, including Pyramid, TI, etc.

I should also add that I'd love to try something heavier than 011-050, but I'm afraid of the neck bow that I'm likely to get from cables that thick, especially flatwounds, which seem to cause more concavity on the neck than round-wound strings of the same gauge. And I HATE removing the neck every single time to adjust the truss rod, because eventually, the threads in the wood of the neck will give-out. I'm sure of it!

D'Addario Crome Flats have more lbs of tension than other strings at A440 tuning such as TI Flat (at comparable string gauges).

Wow! For real?? Man, if that's true, it explains an awful lot.

I've tried heavier gauges of different brands on other guitars including some Gretsch hollow-bodies (like the G6120-RHH = Reverend Horton Heat), and they've done just fine with them, but frankly, for the Jag and/or JM, with their thinner, lighter-weight necks, I'm more than a little bit hesitant.

In addition, I'm pretty happy with 011-050 gauge all-in-all, but if they (D-Adarrios) are causing more overall tension on the Fender necks, then I need to look at switching to another brand post-haste.

You wouldn't happen to have a reference for me on that string tension data, would you? I'd sure appreciate it. Many thanks.

"Heavy is good. Heavy is reliable. If it doesn't work, you can always hit them with it." - Boris the Blade

Ringo wrote:

You wouldn't happen to have a reference for me on that string tension data, would you? I'd sure appreciate it. Many thanks.

T1 Jazz Swing tension chart (all gauge sets): http://www.thomastik-infeld.com/sites/default/files/catalogue/folder_jazz_guitar_0918.pdf

D'Addario ECG24 Chromes Flatwound 11-50: http://www.daddario.com/DADProductDetail.Page?ActiveID=3769&productid=49&productname=ECG24_Chromes_Flat_Wound__Jazz_Light__11_50

According to my calculations of the tension info presented in the above references...

TI Jazz Swings aggregate tension
11-47: 124.7 lbs
12-50: 140.3 lbs

D'Addario 11-50 : 136.78 lbs

As per the references, one can easily find that the D'Addario strings in this pack range in tension between 19.63 to 25.3 lbs and from string to adjacent string the tension variance can be quite large.

And strings in the TI 11-47 pack range between 19.9 to 21.7 lbs.

Observations based on above references and my own user experience: D'Addario is unbalanced. Some string tensions are nice and playable and other strings on your guitar will be tough as hell to bend.
TI strings, OTOH, have a nicer, more refined balanced across all strings.

Lorne
The Surf Shakers: https://www.facebook.com/TheSurfShakers
Vancouver BC Canada

Last edited: Mar 03, 2019 22:51:03

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