Did you use a chorus on #A?
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I’m betting that #1 is the Fender unit. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
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SanchoPansen wrote:
no extra effects used, just guitar > Pedal > 6g15 > amps —http://dinosaurghost.bandcamp.com/ |
Joined: Feb 27, 2006 Posts: 2062 Virginia, USA |
A is the Fender—Paul |
Joined: Feb 26, 2006 Posts: 12159 Seattle |
A sounds like butt. It's stupid delays sounds awful because they aren't in time with your playing. Some one above asked if A had chorus. That is hilarious. To me it is more of a harmonic abberation. 1 is the Fender unit. It sounds alright, and amazing compared to the Ventris. |
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Thanks for clarifying, Ryan. I thought that A had an additional effect on top, like e.g. chorus, flanger, phaser. But it's simply the out of sync trails, generating a wobbling sound. |
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JakeDobner wrote:
Best reverb pedal review I’ve read in a long time. Thanks Jake! |
Joined: Aug 29, 2009 Posts: 1556 Israel |
A bit harsh, both, this is not bad for this specific test IMHO, it's revealing. A more classical sound through Brownfaces and vintage mics might have MASKED differences even more. It sounds way better than the previous gen popular pedals, i.e. Topanga and FRV1. It's a better platform to build on. Either way goes without saying, as a double Surfy-Bear operator, I will never buy a digital reverb. Last edited: Feb 28, 2018 07:54:22 |
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Ariel wrote:
Your last sentence says a lot. Springs behave randomly, chaotically and as brilliant as computers are, they do not lend themselves to randomness and chaos as easily as they do to orderliness. That having been said, I think that the Ventris is quite good, but I find my Topanga adequate. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
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It is an unmodified RI tank. — http://dinosaurghost.bandcamp.com/ |
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SanchoPansen wrote:
That's why I also said buy what YOU like. If you like it & think it has "that sound", then you will be confident in your sound, which conveys to the audience. I'm not debating reverb tanks & pedals, I'm pointing out that "that sound" is subjective & varies with each person. If a pedal works for you, great! If it just has to be a tank (I share this opinion with many others), that's great too! No wrong answers here. —Otto & The Ottomans |
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Bob_Kennedy wrote:
I can get behind these thoughts. If I only played my Deluxe or my Twin, I'd probably not have even on pedal and I doubt that I'd bother with my tank. I get a sound that I love from either of these amps, right out of the box. Is it the sound of a vintage tank through a Showman? NO! However, it is a very good sound and I'm pleased with it. Much of the time, I use a Winfield Cyclone or a Winfield Typhoon, both amps using a preamp circuit with an EF-86 pentode and having a much different response curve than the 12AX7 front ends found in most tube amps. I happen to like that sound and am very pleased with it for Surf. Because neither of these amps have any effects whatsoever I have to use something external and have used an FRV-1, a Topanga and occasionally some other effects as well, although I do not use overdrive pedals as a rule. But I don't claim to be the keeper of any sacred fire. I appreciate vintage Surf and was around to hear it in the early sixties. Much of my playing, Surf or otherwise, is informed by the music of the early '60s and that's as I want it. I play Surf, I play Roger Miller, I play Johnny Rivers, I play Buck Owens; all sounds that I heard in my grade-school days. If I was doing a bespoke Surf gig, I probably would bring my tank and the Twin I have converted to a piggyback. It's an awesome sounding rig, albeit one that requires that I drive my pickup to a gig and not my Miata. —The artist formerly known as: Synchro When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar. |
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Big_Ryan wrote:
I was in the midst of rewiring my pedal board to accommodate the Surfybear pedal (even custom ordered another pedal with top jacks to make everything fit), but then I got a Ventris... Now I have extra space on my board. Will probably still keep the Surfybear for recording, etc., especially since the brown tolex so nicely matches my amp... Last edited: Feb 28, 2018 11:57:45 |
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I seem to be in the minority here, but I'm sticking with my guess that #A is the Fender. That's my story and I'm sticking with it. Unless I'm wrong, then I'll deny everything. —Paul |
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Bob_Kennedy wrote:
Agreed. Just wanted to point out that the usual statement 'it doesn't matter because the audience won't notice' is not correct. It does matter - to the musician. That's the most important part. — |
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synchro wrote:
I know what you mean, and from an emotional point I stand with you! I threw the term randomness (*R) earlier, so I want to expand on it. Every emulation is a approximation, any mathematical representation will miss something, be 'compressed' to a degree. The right way, is to compress the most unnecessary info. It's the fact that 'they' don't implement it right - never deep enough, not in the right points of the signal path. Usually ignoring note pitch, attack and velocity. Never ever wild enough, polite and safe as programmers tend to, keeping numbers from going too crazy and messing up the works. Still literally, any modern game's physical nature modeling is infinitely more complex than what's needed here. Maybe Rockstar should get into pedals. Last edited: Mar 01, 2018 14:03:32 |
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A was the Ventris http://dinosaurghost.bandcamp.com/ |
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