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Not pinging anyone in particular but, in a typical garage setting, it sounds as if some worthwhile attention could be paid to dynamics (volume) among the rest of the instruments. Full volume practice is a valuable thing; killing the hearing as well as fighting tooth & nail to get the instruments to sit in the mix is another. Just my $.02.

I always got a kick out of The Penetrators' PA guide cheat sheet that was included in their DVD, showing the relative mix of instruments (since the lead guitar is the "vocalist").

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Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

Twinreverb wrote:

BamaSurf yesterday I did go back to Guitar Center and
try the Super Reverb again. I did like the way it sounded
with my Telecaster. This past Sunday was our last band practice
for the year. We play in our Drummer garage and it get's loud
and I had the Volume at 3 and I had to put it up to 4 then 5
to hear it with the other Guitar Bass and Keyboards and Drums.
I kept the Reverb at 3 so is that normal when playing with
other people?I'm trying to keep my sound clean with just Reverb
so I don't know if the Deluxe Reverb can do that or will the
Super Reverb do that.

If you're not micing the amp the Super Reverb would be my choice unless I had a Twin Very Happy

Last edited: Nov 17, 2017 21:04:38

BamaSurf wrote:

If you're not mixing the amp the Super Reverb would be my choice unless I had a Twin Very Happy

I had the latter (once when I was young & made of rubber and steel) & it would definitely get it done. Just thinking about it reminds me to call the chiropractor tomorrow... LMAO

I actually saw my old TR today in the local shop; original drunken bass player beer stain & all. Nobody in 30 yrs took the casters off, though.

Wes
SoCal ex-pat with a snow shovel

DISCLAIMER: The above is opinion/suggestion only & should not be used for mission planning/navigation, tweaking of instruments, beverage selection, or wardrobe choices.

I had a Twin for a minute or two great amp..way too heavy for me though. Even with a hand truck and casters

BamaSurf and all the others who posted on this post as of today
I am no longer in the Band that I was in. Oh well bands come and
go. I spent two years with them and they got tired of playing 3 and
4 chord songs. I was wondering do you guys have any thoughts on the
Fender Vibro-King? I know it's a heavy Amp but how is the sound
different then the Deluxe Reverb? Now that I'm no longer in a Band
is the Vibro -King or the Deluxe Reverb better for playing Surf Music?
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Lou D

Sorry about the band....you'll be in another. Not sure about the Vibro-King..sounds like a sweet amp...60 watts loud....cool. I use my DRRI here at the house usually volume set around three. When the bride is not home I can crank it to five-six before it starts to break up....which is cleaner than the other DRRIs I have had...they seemed to break up around four. My current one is a 2014...the others were 2004 and earlier. Weird huh?

I would like to try out a Vibro King.

BamaSurf when you have one person telling everyone what to play
a band like that does not last to long. My Deluxe Reverb is a
2017 and I don't know how many were in Surf Green. Last night
I was listing to YouTube and the Deluxe Reverb sounded good
with both a Telecaster and a Stratocaster. I was thinking that
I should just save and get another Stratocaster. I would love to
try a Tom Anderson either a Tele or Strat style but no music
store stocks them where I live. What guitar sounds good to
you thru your Deluxe Reverb?

Lou D

Hey Lou, both a Tele and a Strat sound great through a Deluxe Reverb. Personally, I have to work at it to make them sound really surfy, which generally requires a reverb unit and the volume up pretty loud, among other things. However, anything I plug my Jazzmaster into sounds like surf, including a DR. I realize that you are not just playing surf, but you might make a trip to your local music store and try a Jazzmaster into the amps you are interested in.

Paul

BamaSurf wrote:

I think the DRRI has more clean headroom than the Custom DR...

If you piggyback a second resistor of equal value in parallel with the negative feedback resistor you will regain that headroom. I have a ‘68 CDR and find it to be a great all around amp. It surfs nicely and works for my Chet stuff too.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

Twinreverb wrote:

BamaSurf when you have one person telling everyone what to play
a band like that does not last to long. My Deluxe Reverb is a
2017 and I don't know how many were in Surf Green. Last night
I was listing to YouTube and the Deluxe Reverb sounded good
with both a Telecaster and a Stratocaster. I was thinking that
I should just save and get another Stratocaster. I would love to
try a Tom Anderson either a Tele or Strat style but no music
store stocks them where I live. What guitar sounds good to
you thru your Deluxe Reverb?

A couple of simple mods will help, if you’re not too worried about the warranty. The NFB resistor in your amp is fine as is. The tone stack can be altered by changing on cap and cutting the bright cap. Then you’ll have the same tone stack as the Custom channel of the ‘68 CDR. Not a ibro King, but still quite good for Surf and you won’t be lifting nearly as much weight. vibros are nice, but they are heavy.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

The Vibro-King would certainly have more clean head-room at 60 watts and you wouldn't need to have an outboard reverb unit as the Vibro-King contains the same circuitry as the Fender outboard unit (incl dwell, mix and tone controls), but it's a heavy sucker to transport while the Deluxe is relatively light and compact.

Surfadelphia wrote:

The Vibro-King would certainly have more clean head-room at 60 watts and you wouldn't need to have an outboard reverb unit as the Vibro-King contains the same circuitry as the Fender outboard unit (incl dwell, mix and tone controls), but it's a heavy sucker to transport while the Deluxe is relatively light and compact.

I would love to have one myself, but if I did, it would be broken up into a piggyback configuration.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

Today I went to Guitar Center and I ran into a couple
of guys that I know. I told them what I wanted to do
and both said to keep the Deluxe Reverb. Then they said
save and get another Guitar which I started doing today.
I really like the Eric Clapton Signature Stratocaster
I should have never sold my last one. The American
Professional Jazzmaster in Mystic Seafoam or the
American Professional Jaguar both with a Maple Neck
look good. Those two depends on how the neck play's.
The new Necks on the Fender the Deep C I don't like
that much but the Special Soft V on the Clapton I really
like. I would like to get that neck on a Telecaster.
I'll post a picture of the Amp and guitar together.

Lou D

Here is the Deluxe Reverb and my American Standard Telecster
together.
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Lou D

Twinreverb wrote:

Today I went to Guitar Center and I ran into a couple
of guys that I know. I told them what I wanted to do
and both said to keep the Deluxe Reverb. Then they said
save and get another Guitar which I started doing today.
I really like the Eric Clapton Signature Stratocaster
I should have never sold my last one. The American
Professional Jazzmaster in Mystic Seafoam or the
American Professional Jaguar both with a Maple Neck
look good. Those two depends on how the neck play's.
The new Necks on the Fender the Deep C I don't like
that much but the Special Soft V on the Clapton I really
like. I would like to get that neck on a Telecaster.
I'll post a picture of the Amp and guitar together.

Out of curiosity, what is your final goal here? The Clapton Strat is a great axe and there’s nothing wrong with a Strat for a Surf Guitar.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

Twinreverb wrote:

Here is the Deluxe Reverb and my American Standard Telecster
together.
image

That’s about as classic as a combination can get.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

synchro my goal is to have a Warm sound not Bright or
Dark just in between both. I like the Twang I get with
the Telecaster and the Stratocaster (going to get another
Eric Clapton next year) it's like the Bobby Fuller Four
sound. I also think that the Deluxe reverb and a Stratocaster
has a good Surf sound. What I mean by that is a (Beach Boy)
sound now I also like the 50's Rockabilly sound and my Telecaster
does that just fine. In the past I was used to having amps with
more power so I will have to learn more about my Amp. I also like the fact that it is not as heavy as the other Amps. I also remember as a
teen going to Teen Town dances and a lot of the people playing back
then used Deluxe Reverb Amps. I did find out a couple of other people
were looking at the Amp at our local Guitar Center and one friend was
going to buy the Amp.

Lou D

Last edited: Nov 25, 2017 17:53:00

Twinreverb wrote:

synchro my goal is to have a Warm sound not Bright or
Dark just in between both. I like the Twang I get with
the Telecaster and the Stratocaster (going to get another
Eric Clapton next year) it's like the Bobby Fuller Four
sound. I also think that the Deluxe reverb and a Stratocaster
has a good Surf sound. What I mean by that is a (Beach Boy)
sound now I also like the 50's Rockabilly sound and my Telecaster
does that just fine. In the past I was used to having amps with
more power so I will have to learn more about my Amp. I also like the fact that it is not as heavy as the other Amps. I also remember as a
teen going to Teen Twon dancies and a lot of the people playing back
then used Deluxe Reverb Amps. I did find out a couple of other people
were looking at the Amp at our local Guitar Center and one friend was
going to buy the Amp.

Lots of grist for my mill. Smile

One mistake I’ve heard plenty of people make is to have too bright and harsh of a sound for Surf. The original Surf of the early ‘60s was fairly mellow, with some exceptions. Listen to Dick Dale’s Summer Surf and you’ll see what I mean. Most of the early Surf was recorded on brown-face Fenders which had a greater mid-range than the later black-face amps. By the time the black-face amps came along Surf was in its declining phase.

The Deluxe Reverb has a couple of features which need to be accounted for. The “Normal” channel doesn’t have Reverb or Tremolo. The “Vibrato” channel has Reverb and Tremolo, but it also has a high pass filter in the front end, the so-called bright cap. This is like the Bright switch on a Twin and basically let’s high frequencies bypass the volume control which keeps things nice and bright at lower volumes, which is great Buck Owens and the Buckaroos, but maybe not the best for everything else.

If you cut C10 and replace C9 with a .022 mfd cap you will get a bit more midrange. This would emulate the Custom channel of a ‘68 Custom Delux Reverb. You could put the .022 cap in C4 of the “Normal” channel on a DRRI as well but you’d have to perform one additional mod to have access to Reverb and Tremolo on the “Normal” channel. Apparently, the vernacular for This is the Fritz mod, but you’ll have to research it.

I have both a DRRI and a ‘68 CDR and live the ‘68 a lot better, for Surf, or general playing. It’s warm, but not dark. Basically the .022 cap at C4 (would be C9 on the “Vibrato” channel) reduces the amount of midrange signal shunted to ground. Think of it this way, your DRRI has a treble and a bass control, but there is also a midrange filter, it just happens to be preset by the .047 caps at C4 and C9. Substituting s .022 cap would be analogous to raising the midrange control on a TRRI.

All the above having been said, there’s nothing wrong with the DRRI. It’s a great amp and a perfect example of the classic black-face sound. The “Normal” channel lacks the bright cap and if you are using a Reverb pedal or tank, the Normal channel can be pretty awesome.

The artist formerly known as: Synchro

When Surf Guitar is outlawed only outlaws will play Surf Guitar.

synchro thanks for the information as I said the
Deluxe Reverb will stay. I just have to play it
more so far I've only used the Amp 2 times in almost
45 days. So most of the time the Amp just sits on an
Amp Stand.

Lou D

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